Competitions Brisbane board mock draft - Round 4

[Balony_pony16]

Pick 49 Sydney - Ryan Garthwaite

Pretty much need to find the best tall defender available. I can say I know a whole heap about the talent this deep but a brief video scout of Garthwaite and he look a decent type. Pure shutdown is what I see from limited footage with the type that will look to dish off to running backs or just do the team thing and go long down the line to a target or contest. Nothing fancy offensively about these kid. Defensive he looks pretty good and certainly has a lot that the swans can work with.

Overall a case of get whatever tall back I could find. Seems the best of whats left

 

[Balony_pony16]

luthor

 

[Balony_pony16]

Thats me done with the draft. Pretty happy with what I got. Will be passing at 85 haha

 

[luthor]

luthor

Retiring to the sack after just getting home.

Hopefully y'all can wait till tomorrow morning

 

[winged1]

Hint McCluggage is taken

 

[luthor]

Pick 50 - Western Bulldogs

Sam McLarty

POS: Tall defender/forward

From Oakleigh Chargers/Vic Metro

Key position prospect .

Limited exposure at the National Championships, coming back from injury.

My research indicates majority of time this season has been spent forward but has the ability to be used at both ends of the ground.

 

[luthor]

The Flying Belgian up next

 

[The Flying Belgian]

Collingwood - Pick 51

Jack Maibaum

Another key defender for the Pies. If I was picking purely on best available at this point I'd take someone like Sam Walker (who seems to get underrated a fair bit) or Tom Williamson. However, if there's one position that Collingwood have covered it's half-back flankers, even with Williams' departure. But what they don't have in depth is KPD's.

Maibaum isn't flashy and I'd expect him to develop to play as a FB in the AFL. He has a few flaws that would need to be worked on - endurance being the main thing. He looks better when having a bit of time to deliver the ball, so having a greater structure around him will help him out in that regard, evidenced by the fact that his DE% went up when he went up a level. He measured a little on the short side at the combine, but that doesn't worry me as he plays tall. What he's got is strength and good movement at ground level. And he rarely gets beaten.

He played forward as a junior before being switched to defence pretty recently, so he's got scope for further development. But the potential to swing him forward if matchups aren't working out.

cheekyLionsFan you're up.

 

[cheekyLionsFan]

GWS Pick 52

**thanks to Quigley ***

Bailey Banfield

Banfield was not overly noticeable at the Champs but was one of those guys who took what he learnt from the Champs and improved week on week in the second half of the year. He was always a big ball winner in the Colts but it was encouraging that he was able to bring similar ball winning ability to the Reserves when he got the chance. He played a couple of WAFL games at the end of the year and debuted with a 26 possession game at the top level. He went back to the Colts for the finals and was part of Claremont's premiership team. In the Grand Final he had a significant influence on the result with his hard running and his 32 disposals and 6 tackles.

From all reports Banfield is a very professional young guy who is meticulous in his approach to preparing for games and improving in general. His kicking remains something which needs work but he has shown improvement on the year and there is no reason to suggest that will not continue. It is interesting to look at his kicking efficiency percentages over the year. As he progressed through the WAFL levels he improved his kicking efficiency at each jump up in class. Usually with less time, a player’s kicking comes under more pressure and their efficiency goes down. It is the opposite with Banfield and a testament to the work he has put in. He is a left footer and most of his issues I think are to do with a tendency to just pump it long indiscriminantly rather than taking an extra second to look for a target. This is pretty common when a guy is used to playing with less skilled players and field position is important. I think drills in an elite environment will go a long way to getting that out of his game.

Banfield has the build most teams are looking for in a mid, standing 189cm tall and weighing a toned 84kgs. He was not invited to the National Combine instead tested at the State Combine where he had some very impressive results. His vertical jump would have placed him second in the Combine and his running left foot jump in the top 5. His 24.88 would also have put him in the top 5 in the repeat sprint and his 8.30 in the agility test would have put him just outside of the top 10. His 20m sprint time of 2.96 was also pretty good. With guys doing all of their testing on the one day the State Combine participants often suffer in the beep test and return lower scores than those at the Combine and so his 12.9 time was less of a concern for me than it would have been if he had done it at the Combine. I would equate that to about a 13.5 all things being equal. Overall Banfield tested very impressively and combined with his size he is a very interesting package.

Banfield is an inside out mid who wins a high percentage of contested ball. As he improves his tank I would like to see him work harder on the spread and get to space a bit more. Even when he is working on the outside he has guys in close proximity too much for my liking. On the inside Banfield moves through traffic well and he manages to get his hands on the ball a lot. He could be a bit quicker to get it away and he does tend to get scragged a bit. He keeps his arms free in tackles nicely but he is going to get done a lot for holding the ball early in his AFL career as he learns to adjust. It is much the same on the outside where he cruises a bit and moves east west looking for what to do with the ball rather than having the pedal to the floor and going north south whilst he assesses what is on offer. He has the pace he just needs to learn to work at a high cruising speed and attack a defence a bit more.

Defensively Banfield works pretty hard and gets up and down the park better than a lot of mids in this draft. He is also a willing tackler and even if he is not impacting the game in other ways he mucks in and tackles.

Overall I would have no trouble taking a punt on a big possession winning, good athlete who has a good attitude and shown really nice development over the year and I think there will be a couple of teams out there that would agree with me.

 

[cheekyLionsFan]

Soren Lorenson

 

[Soren Lorenson]

Adelaide P53 - Myles Poholke


I too will defer to the Great Quigley....

Poholke is a guy that I wouldn’t be surprised to see go pretty highly or drop right away on draft day. He has holes in his game that could concern teams but there are strengths there that a team might fall in love with as well. He has a clear career path in the AFL which should see him start his career as a HFF and progressively play more and more midfield. This is a pretty standard pathway in the AFL and a guy who fits that nicely is going to appeal to teams given they don’t need to have much imagination to see him in those roles.

At the champs I thought Poholke looked to be carrying a bit of puppy fat that he could stand to lose and I think teams will like it that he lost 3kgs coming into the Combine. It certainly helped his testing at the Combine where he was quite impressive. He showed good endurance returning a 14.1 in the beep and burst of pace in the 20m where he did a 2.98. His repeat sprint and jumps were also good. The one test where he would have been below what would have been hoped for was in the agility test but if you have seen him play that was probably to be expected.

Poholke is a strong physical presence on the field and will often look to go through rather than around a tackler. He was quite effective with that in the juniors but like Nick Robertson I am not seeing him pull it off at AFL level. He is going to need to make it more of a surprise tactic rather than the go-to move it is now. I would like to see him work on his change of direction but I am not expecting it to ever be a strength of his.

Poholke has a little unusual body shape with short legs and a longer torso and that together with his lack of agility tends to lead to an impression that he is not quick. That would be wrong and he uses it to his advantage. He is not a big accumulator of the ball but he does get a reasonable amount of it as a HFF and he manages to find space well. Poholke’s biggest strength is probably his marking. He has excellent hands, a reasonable jump and is a good judge of the ball in the air. Add to that the fact that he is difficult to move when he establishes position and you have a guy who is a dangerous one-on-one player.

Probably the biggest hole in his game at the moment is his kicking. He is not one of those players who seems to have time and this is exacerbated by the fact that he looks to play on quickly whenever he gets the ball. This usually means he does not take a heap of time with his kicks and with his tendency to swing his leg across the ball he can miss more targets than most people would like to see. He does seem to identify good targets and his reading of the play seems fine so I think most of these problems come back to those two issues, both of which should be coachable to some extent. His kicking technique should be able to be ironed out with intense work and it needs to be stressed to him that he needs to take his time when he has it and not overly rush his disposal.

In the middle of the ground he is a bustling presence who battles away and wins his fair share. His hands are clean and quick enough but he is not a great read of the rucks’ taps. He is strong over the ball and competes well but I just do not see him as a natural. With time and exposure he should improve though. He uses his strength well in his tackles and he is not afraid to get in and mix it up.

Poholke has his fans and his detractors. I am somewhere in the middle.

Panthera

 

[Panthera]

Whilst Tim English builds his strength etc. we're going local again to pick up Darcy Cameron at pick #54 to help out in the ruck


Darcy Cameron
Claremont
204cm/104kg
18/7/95
Cameron was overlooked at the 2013 NAB AFL Draft with a query on his pace and his consistency in competing. But he's improved those aspects of his game and presents as a mature-age tall who is able to play in the ruck and in attack. Cameron has enjoyed a solid season at WAFL level for Claremont.

 

[Cockliff38]

cheekyLionsFan with 3 of the next 4 picks...

 

[cheekyLionsFan]

GWS Pick 55 Callum Brown

**Snoop dog **

"I liken him to Jack Viney. I think he is that terrific inside player who just reads the game so well and is fierce in his attack. Like Jack his kicking lacks depth and penetration so he works well with his hands and by foot over short distances. Can also play forward and again reads the game really well there so you wonder if that’s where he will start. Could be playing sooner than people think."

 

[cheekyLionsFan]

captainrich

 

[captainrich]

sorry for the delay guys

Richmond

Lachlan Tizani
with the shock retirement of Chris Yarran thought could get a nice quick dangerous player they could use in the forward 50

He's had a really good back end of the year kicking 30 odd goals in the final 9 TAC cup games which is nothing to be sneezed at, bit to work on with endurance. Risky pick and could have gotten him next round potentially, but with their development of guys like Markov etc this year, Drummond to come back in hopefully 100% and the new midfield additions think this is a risk they could take.

 

[captainrich]

cheekyLionsFan

 

[cheekyLionsFan]

Pick 57 Alex Villis

**knightmare **

Villis, a 182cm, 70kg outside player, is one of the more reliable ball users in this year's draft. He uses it well on both sides of the body, makes good decisions with ball in hand and would be a suitable on a wing or coming out of defence.

 

[cheekyLionsFan]

Pick 58 Joshua Begley

** Knightmare **

Begley has proven to be an effective ball user this season. He is not only a good finisher around goal and from set shots but also hits his targets by foot over a variety of distances. At stoppages he also dishes out well by hand to teammates.

His most pressing deficiencies are a lack of pace, agility and endurance. Begley seems to have dropped some weight and covers the ground better than he did earlier in the season, but further work is still needed. He also often feels more influential earlier in games, which again comes back to his fitness base.

With a few pre-seasons into him, the hope would be that he develops an AFL body and improves his running ability while still retaining his power game that makes him an impactful player.

 

[cheekyLionsFan]

Pick 59 Jeremy Goddard

***Quigley **

Okay an admission here. I am largely including Goddard because of my love of him from last year. Coming into the year he was clearly my number 1 and I am holding the faith that he will come good in the end. Goddard is a massive guy at 202cm and 101kgs who is going to take a few years to get everything together but he has the potential to be a dominating presence in the middle and if I was a team picking late-ish I take him and stash him away. There has been a dearth of ruck talent come through in the last few years. I think you grab a talent when you can get him cheap.

Goddard's big strength is his ruck work especially around the ground. He can tap with either hand and uses his body well to keep the opposing ruck clear of the ball. His control is pretty good and his hit outs to advantage would be high. In the televised AFL Academy game earlier in the year he was the starting ruck and I recall him dominating the ruck contest in that game against VFL opposition. His performance in the WAFL Colts grand final is also worth a mention. In that game he had 44 hit outs, 16 disposals, 7 marks and 5 tackles which was statistically his best game of the year (from my limited research). To turn up in a big game and dominate like he did speaks highly of him.

What Goddard needs to do is get involved like that around the ground more often. This year he has been too often been a non-factor around the ground. He needs to attack the contest more and throw his weight around and then work harder to find space. I would like to see him up his aggression and not be afraid to break an opponent in half. I would love to see him go all Mummy once in a while.

He is a typical ruck in that he looks to handball on virtually every occasion but he is decent with his handballing. By foot he is not terrible but not great either. There is enough to work with though for a ruck. Also like many rucks he lacks a bit of footy smarts on occasions but again he is not terrible and with a couple of years coaching in an AFL environment I think he will be fine.

Goddard did not get an invite to the national Combine instead had to go through the State version. Apart from his poor beep test of 11.7 the rest of the testing was really excellent. His two foot jump was better than any of the rucks tested at the Combine as was his agility test where he did an 8.42. This was hugely impressive for such a big, hefty guy and a lot better than any of the other rucks. 3.02 in the 20m was very good and second in the rucks to only Olango whilst his 25.40 was over a second ahead of any of the other rucks. All up Goddard tested as an excellent athlete for a ruckman and as someone with quite a bit to work with as he improves his endurance.

Goddard is a late pick now but, for me, I think there is too much potential to ignore. I value first use of the ball highly and Goddard is a guy who can give your team that. There is plenty to work on in his game but he has the size and athleticism to dominate and for a late pick I jump onboard.

 

[cheekyLionsFan]

pauldrc

 

[pauldrc]

Pick 60 St Kilda - Josh Daicos.

Looks to have a bit of his old man's magic, time in hand with the ball and footy smarts - can kick goals, his footskills are sublime. Lots of talent and uposide if he can work on his fintness and put in the hard yards. Couldn't let him fall to Collingwoods pick either.

The Flying Belgian

 

[The Flying Belgian]

Pick 61 - Collingwood

Jake Waterman

4 out of 4 talls so far for Collingwood, such is their lack of depth in that department. They've been able to trade in some good young talent in the midfield, so I take the opportunity to add another forward. And while Waterman only stands at 190cm he plays like a KP, so he's drafted as such - if he was 4cm taller I suspect he'd be getting talked up a lot more. It's not that he plays tall - he doesn't seem to have a great vertical leap - but he plays smart and has a good set of hands. That said, he'll never by the #1 forward in a team, but will complement Moore and whoever they've got in there.

Athletically he needs a bit of work, some sprint and jump training, but being made captain for WA this year I'd back him in to get the best out of his ability, although consistency during games is an issue. One of the best bits about his game from my viewing are his foot skills - his kicking for goal is generally very good as his ability to spot up a target inside 50.

I wouldn't have though he'd get much of a look-in this year unless injuries strike their forwards. He kicked 5 goals in the WAFL seniors this year, so the step-up wouldn't be beyond him.

Pinging Dom PC ...

 

[Dylan12]

Is Jake Waterman the son of former Eagle, Chris?

 

[WA Lion]

Is Jake Waterman the son of former Eagle, Chris?

yeah, and brother of Alec who was on their list recently (not sure if he still is) but was plagued by glandular issues I think