Traded Brodie Grundy [Traded to Melbourne for #27]

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Now you’re just confusing what you value him at with knowing what your club values him at. You’ve got no clue what Melbourne thinks he’s worth. I haven’t even set a value for you to argue with me about.
I haven’t set a value either. You’ve got not clue how much Collingwood want to move on from him either.
 
You’re clearly interested….this isn’t A tyre kicking exercise.
you bought the whole band out to pitch to him…
Yeah because he’s been made available.
 
So explain the Doggies interest in Lobb. Has his club made him available?
Dogs aren’t Melbourne. Melbourne are going after players that have been made available.
 

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What’s the difference between an AFL club doing this and an AFL club pulling the whole PSD threat on another club that isn’t offering what is deemed as appropriate?

Absolutely nothing - and both are extremely poor draft/trade etiquette.

Melbourne wouldn’t express interest in a player then try low-ball Collingwood in trade week.
A 2nd rounder is more than adequate. The guy is 29 yrs old and on a big salary and quite frankly no-one really wants him.
 
A 2nd rounder is more than adequate. The guy is 29 yrs old and on a big salary and quite frankly no-one really wants him.
You mean he isn’t interested in leaving Victoria? There’s been a number of clubs keen to talk to him and he has said no. Once again, you’re way off the mark when you post. But you keep being you, kid!
 
You mean he isn’t interested in leaving Victoria? There’s been a number of clubs keen to talk to him and he has said no. Once again, you’re way off the mark when you post. But you keep being you, kid!
There's like 5 clubs interested in Lloyd Meek too. People will show interest in any ruckman who is available simply due to the scarcity of the position.
 
So how do you know Grundy is available if neither Collingwood, nor Grundy have said as much? What do you know that I don’t?
Well there's been reports that Grundy and Gawn have caught up for coffee. And on another occasion caught up with Simon and Max Gawn at someones house too. So it's pretty obvious. Look I hope he isn't coming, but I think he is. Give it 2-3 days and it'll be official.
 
So how do you know Grundy is available if neither Collingwood, nor Grundy have said as much? What do you know that I don’t?
He has no reason to talk to other clubs if he isn’t been made available.
 
Those who are saying he isn’t being pushed out by Collingwood need to read this. Hands down pushed out, pies just want him gone, Grundy hasn’t and doesn’t even had to request a trade.

Can’t imagine Pies will put up to much of a fight on compensation. 2nd rounder with a 3rd coming back.

 

Pies fans are going to be disappointed at the outcome here.

An injury prone ruckman who will play close to all of next season as a 29 year old, with 5 years left on his contract.

This is the definition of a salary dump.

Again, I would only be happy with taking on Grundy’s contract if Collingwood trade draft capital to us to do so.

Otherwise, you can keep him + his abhorrent contract and you will be unable to make any other moves in the trade period.
 

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Pies fans are going to be disappointed at the outcome here.

An injury prone ruckman who will play close to all of next season as a 29 year old, with 5 years left on his contract.

This is the definition of a salary dump.

Again, I would only be happy with taking on Grundy’s contract if Collingwood trade draft capital to us to do so.

Otherwise, you can keep him + his abhorrent contract and you will be unable to make any other moves in the trade period.
So based on that article, and what you’re saying is you’ll be taking on his full contract. If that’s the case, the draft return will absolutely be disappointing, but expected.

If you believe you’ll be getting him for just $600k a year with minimal return in compensation, then you’re the one who’ll be disappointed.
 
So based on that article, and what you’re saying is you’ll be taking on his full contract. If that’s the case, the draft return will absolutely be disappointing, but expected.

If you believe you’ll be getting him for just $600k a year with minimal return in compensation, then you’re the one who’ll be disappointed.
Even with the contract being subsidised (let’s go with the widely reported $300k) - I do not want $3.5m of cap over the next 5 seasons tied up on an injury prone ruckman in his twilight years. That is list suicide.

I am not posturing here, I will be genuinely filthy at the club if it happens.
 
I'd be widely expecting the following to happen:

  • Melbourne's 2nd and 3rd round draft picks in exchange for: Grundy and a 4th
  • Collingwood to pay for around for $300,000 per year
  • Melbourne to take remaining years and salary of his contract.

We have over invested in Oliver, Brayshaw, Petracca. With a few important players coming out of contract in the next few years who will be demanding valuable coin. We won't be over-investing into a 29 year old with some injury concerns on a huge salary that Collingwood regret doing. We simply won't.

Collingwood fans and any other support, you're delusional to think the club will take on 100% of his salary.
 
Those who are saying he isn’t being pushed out by Collingwood need to read this. Hands down pushed out, pies just want him gone, Grundy hasn’t and doesn’t even had to request a trade.

Can’t imagine Pies will put up to much of a fight on compensation. 2nd rounder with a 3rd coming back.

I don't recall seeing too many Pie supporters disputing he's being pushed out. It's pretty clear he is.

The debate appears to be, is Melbourne keener to land him than the Pies are to offload him? Whomever, is more invested in this, has the leverage. The Dees appear to want him to fill the Jackson void and Pies need Grundy's salary of the books to secure our other targets.

The more salary we pay, the better the draft compensation. Really not worth speculating about until we get some numbers out there, likely day one of trade period.
 
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I just don't understand this trade by Collingwood.. and they did it with Treloar.. Why would you go out of your way to strengthen a rival premiership contender, particularly if Collingwood are prepared to fund 30% of the contract. Additionally Melbourne is going to have a weak draft hand and going to be unable to compensate adequately.
 
So how do you know Grundy is available if neither Collingwood, nor Grundy have said as much? What do you know that I don’t?
There's been speculation about Grundy leaving for a while now, and I personally haven't seen very much "Hands off, he's ours!!" pushback from Collingwood.

You'd think if they still saw him as the crucial long-term key plank of their team, like they did a few years ago, they'd be aggressively shutting down any trade rumours at every opportunity.
 
I just don't understand this trade by Collingwood.. and they did it with Treloar.. Why would you go out of your way to strengthen a rival premiership contender, particularly if Collingwood are prepared to fund 30% of the contract. Additionally Melbourne is going to have a weak draft hand and going to be unable to compensate adequately.
They're going to get 2 x first rounders for Jackson yeah? One of them will likely go to the pies.
 
I think the Pies are going to give Melbourne a second rounder to take Grundy with Pies paying 400K per year.

If the deal falls over Pies have a mess on their hands
Yeah, I think this is exactly what's going to happen, and I think it's a lose-lose-lose deal. Loss for Collingwood, loss for Melbourne, and loss for Grundy who should be leading the ruck unchallenged in a team with forward/ruck backup.
 
Even with the contract being subsidised (let’s go with the widely reported $300k) - I do not want $3.5m of cap over the next 5 seasons tied up on an injury prone ruckman in his twilight years. That is list suicide.

I am not posturing here, I will be genuinely filthy at the club if it happens.
That’s the thing. Melbourne is going with that though and don’t see it the way you do, otherwise they wouldn’t be going for him at all. I don’t think it’s a case of, ow we’ll do it if it’ll only cost a 4th rounder, but we won’t if it’ll cost a 1st. If that makes sense.
 
They're going to get 2 x first rounders for Jackson yeah? One of them will likely go to the pies.
The major issue Collingwood has is that, similarly with Treloar, they have burned bridges to the point that keeping Grundy is not a feasible option.

They want to bring in McStay, Hill, Fiorini and Frampton - as well as tie down De Goey's contract. I assume that this isn't possible with Grundy still on the books. They have refused to play him in the side, and told him that he's not a wanted player at his exit interview.

Geelong have been knocked back by Grundy, and have clearly moved on to other targets (Henry and Bruhn). There isn't really another side in the race.
 

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Traded Brodie Grundy [Traded to Melbourne for #27]

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