Brodie Grundy's tackle- what's the verdict?

[Saintly Viewed]

"The tackle" is dead
Passed away Saturday August 5th at Etihad Stadium surrounded by friends, players and fans alike
Leaves behind "The bump"; "The Biff"; and "By Play"
Will be sadly missed by all that knew him.
RIP




What a farce

The ashs will be cremated.

And taken back to the mother code.

 

[Smoky]

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[ottoman]

Greenwood is out for a few weeksw.
Why hasn't the basterd that put his body in front of his leg been suspended.
A player was injured so therefore someone has to pay the price.
They are truly f***ing this game up.
And the fault lies with us simpletons who just accept the sh*t we are fed.
If I was in Australia I would go to AFL house and....

 

[legendstatus]

Seriously I'm so over the footy and AFL it ain't funny, where has this game gone where the media now dictate decisions and influences the low life's at HQ?


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[magpie_marty]

The ashs will be cremated.

And taken back to the mother code.

The ashes may be reincarnated as a new version of Australian Rules.

 

[shizzle]

Meh it's as expected, Brown was in a far worse state than Kreuzer that's what they care about. It's not about whether you agree with it or not this is the way it's been trending, Stevie Wonder would have seen this coming.

The 70% of people who said he shouldn't be suspended need to come down off the acid trip they're on.

 

[Pedro]

How does Ziebell not even get looked at is baffling.

Should have got 1 week no more.

#makingituponthefly

Agree with this. Ziebells tackle was far more malicious in my view. Clearly they are suspending him based on the outcome, not the action. I expected him to get 1 week, but 3 down to 2 is over the top. You can't tell me that Grundy's tackle was worse than Dangerfields. It was a single action, not a sling tackle and Brown at least had the ball. I can't see where on earth the extra week comes from.

 

[Run n Spread]

Meh it's as expected, Brown was in a far worse state than Kreuzer that's what they care about. It's not about whether you agree with it or not this is the way it's been trending, Stevie Wonder would have seen this coming.

The 70% of people who said he shouldn't be suspended need to come down off the acid trip they're on.

Agree. I'll cop the 2 weeks if Ziebell gets a week as well. (And I have nothing against JZ)

Rules are rules fine. But as in society they simply have to be applied fairly. Slinging someones head to the ground is dangerous. Agreed.

But there were 3 tackles on the weekend that did the same thing. But the least worse one is cited because of the consequence and damage to the brand.

It is a bit like some whacko shooting off a machine gun and hitting no one so walks. And a driver hits a drunk who chicken raced across the freeway and getting the death penalty.

I thought maybe Gill would be different to AD but it is more of the same shit.

 

[Anzacday]

He must have had his head in the sand...

Pity the tackle wasn't carried out in the same spot, might've only ended up with gravel rash.

 

[Saintly Viewed]

It's not about whether you agree with it or not this is the way it's been trending, Stevie Wonder would have seen this coming.

The 70% of people who said he shouldn't be suspended need to come down off the acid trip they're on.

 

[partypie]

Seriously **** the AFL - they're so shit scared of an NFL-style law suit that they only see the end result and not what led to it - all the while overlooking far more overt "illegal" actions because nobody got hurt.

 

[Robroy22]

I say we take em on.

1. Can the AFL MRP or whomever is hearing the challenge PROVE beyond a reasonable doubt that the surface at Etihad did not contribute in any way to Ben Brown's concussion? (or Kruezer's the week before...funny that they're BOTH at the same venue famous for it's rock hard skating rink surface). If not, no case to answer.
2. We tried to be nice and accept the 1 match suspension (same as Patrick's) but for some reason, though one tackle was deemed a free kick against and one was deemed a "fair tackle" rewarded by a holding the ball decision the Fair Tackle bloke gets double the penalty?? Make sense??? NO
3. Grundy has no history of any sort of unsportsmanlike behaviour, It wasn't a sling tackle, or a spear tackle, he didn't chickenwing the guy like Juddy did or eye gouge or anything....he simply tackled hard on a hard surface and Ben Brown suffered concussion. If the AFL is going to outlaw fair tackles that cause injury then it better outlaw high marks in case someone falls on their head.
4. The precedent was set last week with Patrick. Ok we accept that, but then once a precedent is set, you can't base your verdict or your punishment on the severity of the injury. Or maybe it IS time for Johnny Greening or Neil Sacchse to lay a case at the AFL's door?

Come clean on Etihad AFL....and stop trying to blame the athlete for the way you've structured the game and the venues you make them play on.

 

[Bad Horse]

I blame the ponies.

 

[magpie_marty]

Agree. I'll cop the 2 weeks if Ziebell gets a week as well. (And I have nothing against JZ)

Rules are rules fine. But as in society they simply have to be applied fairly. Slinging someones head to the ground is dangerous. Agreed.

But there were 3 tackles on the weekend that did the same thing. But the least worse one is cited because of the consequence and damage to the brand.

It is a bit like some whacko shooting off a machine gun and hitting no one so walks. And a driver hits a drunk who chicken raced across the freeway and getting the death penalty.

I thought maybe Gill would be different to AD but it is more of the same shit.

Seems to me the MRP end up basing there decision on the injury of the other player and doctors from that club as to base there view on there decision.
I wonder was the Umpire that payed Brodie a free kick part of the MRP review ?

 

[JB1975]

I blame the ponies.

Your theory is starting to make sense. Maybe I've been following AFL for too long...

 

[magpie_marty]

I say we take em on.

1. Can the AFL MRP or whomever is hearing the challenge PROVE beyond a reasonable doubt that the surface at Etihad did not contribute in any way to Ben Brown's concussion? (or Kruezer's the week before...funny that they're BOTH at the same venue famous for it's rock hard skating rink surface). If not, no case to answer.
2. We tried to be nice and accept the 1 match suspension (same as Patrick's) but for some reason, though one tackle was deemed a free kick against and one was deemed a "fair tackle" rewarded by a holding the ball decision the Fair Tackle bloke gets double the penalty?? Make sense??? NO
3. Grundy has no history of any sort of unsportsmanlike behaviour, It wasn't a sling tackle, or a spear tackle, he didn't chickenwing the guy like Juddy did or eye gouge or anything....he simply tackled hard on a hard surface and Ben Brown suffered concussion. If the AFL is going to outlaw fair tackles that cause injury then it better outlaw high marks in case someone falls on their head.
4. The precedent was set last week with Patrick. Ok we accept that, but then once a precedent is set, you can't base your verdict or your punishment on the severity of the injury. Or maybe it IS time for Johnny Greening or Neil Sacchse to lay a case at the AFL's door?

Come clean on Etihad AFL....and stop trying to blame the athlete for the way you've structured the game and the venues you make them play on.

Well said ...

 

[magpie_marty]

I say we take em on.

1. Can the AFL MRP or whomever is hearing the challenge PROVE beyond a reasonable doubt that the surface at Etihad did not contribute in any way to Ben Brown's concussion? (or Kruezer's the week before...funny that they're BOTH at the same venue famous for it's rock hard skating rink surface). If not, no case to answer.
2. We tried to be nice and accept the 1 match suspension (same as Patrick's) but for some reason, though one tackle was deemed a free kick against and one was deemed a "fair tackle" rewarded by a holding the ball decision the Fair Tackle bloke gets double the penalty?? Make sense??? NO
3. Grundy has no history of any sort of unsportsmanlike behaviour, It wasn't a sling tackle, or a spear tackle, he didn't chickenwing the guy like Juddy did or eye gouge or anything....he simply tackled hard on a hard surface and Ben Brown suffered concussion. If the AFL is going to outlaw fair tackles that cause injury then it better outlaw high marks in case someone falls on their head.
4. The precedent was set last week with Patrick. Ok we accept that, but then once a precedent is set, you can't base your verdict or your punishment on the severity of the injury. Or maybe it IS time for Johnny Greening or Neil Sacchse to lay a case at the AFL's door?

Come clean on Etihad AFL....and stop trying to blame the athlete for the way you've structured the game and the venues you make them play on.

Frank Galbally is needed

 

[Mkcaptain]

I'm staggered this was assessed as high impact when Danger's wasn't

 

[pies 4 ever]

its probably already been said, but part of the problem was that Brown raised his right leg while trying to get his arms free, obviously trying to drop the ball on to his foot. That's why he was easily thrown by Brodie, had both legs been planted on the ground, no way would Brodie have bought him to ground that hard.

 

[CFC2010]

I blame the ponies.

 

[Run n Spread]

Players simply don't tackle properly. The correct way (technically and if you have the strength) is to grab the waist, drop to your knees and the opponent falls with your momentum.

Unfortunately what has happened is players dive forward and are paid push in the back when this happens. This should only be paid when (for want of a better term) a player is dry humped into the ground. Witness a Barry Hall push in the back (kicked a goal) in the 05 GF and the free against the Geelong player against Gwilt in the 09 QF which cost Geelong the game. In both cases the players were tackled perfectly and dived forward to fall on their faces. And got the free.

In order to compensate players have been trained to sling. Which is dangerous. (Players have always been taught to pin the arms). Add the drainage and hard surfaces and you have a massive issue.

 

[Ugene41]

If they're handing out suspensions based on injury outcome they should ban Etihad for 3 matches instead. No good behaviour downgrade as the surface did the exact same thing last week.

 

[barrackers]

I think there's been a shift in the decision process of the match review panel recently where instead of applying the grading to come up with a penalty they grade the incident to get the penalty they want effectively cancelling out the discount. There's no way Dangerfield's should have been given two weeks down to one, but if they didn't grade it at two weeks the discount would have allowed Dangerfield to escape a ban. The flow on effect is there was no room to move once they made bizarre decision to deem Grundy's tackle worse because of the injury to Brown.

 

[Robroy22]

Frank Galbally is needed

I'm sure somewhere on our books there's a silk or three capable of running the defence.

 

[Seedsfan]

The game is ****ed. No wonder when you have a polo playing w***er running the show