Updated Bruce Lehrmann Pt2 * ACT Bar clears former DPP head Shane Drumgold of misconduct

[Kurve]

Here is PART 1

Historical Rape Allegation Against Fmr AG Christian Porter
The Alexander Matters matters

Just a reminder, this is the crime board and we need to be aware that there will be victims of crime either watching this thread or engaging in here from time to time. A degree of respect in all discussions is expected.

LINK TO TIMELINE
CJS INQUIRY
FINAL REPORT – BOARD OF INQUIRY – CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM
Joint media statement – Chief Minister and Attorney-General



FIONA BROWN - AFFIDAVIT

 

[CM86]

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Imagine if you'd spent as much time thinking about your own questions, as you did avoiding it.


All just a collection of fortuitous coincidences that just happen to protect the poor little Government from the all powerful bully, Higgins.

Higgins is the real problem.​

Sofronoff, Reynolds etc all leaking to the media is good and just.​

Higgins going to the media is bad and unjustifiable. It's Higgins fault that we don't believe she was r*ped!​

The only semblance of justice Higgins has ever had, is because she went to the media. And she will never stop being punished for it.

It's disgusting to think how many Australians would celebrate if Higgins ever committed suicide.

 

[jason_recliner]

Imagine if you'd spent as much time thinking about your own questions, as you did avoiding it.


All just a collection of fortuitous coincidences that just happen to protect the poor little Government from the all powerful bully, Higgins.

Higgins is the real problem.​

Sofronoff, Reynolds etc all leaking to the media is good and just.​

Higgins going to the media is bad and unjustifiable. It's Higgins fault that we don't believe she was r*ped!​

The only semblance of justice Higgins has ever had, is because she went to the media. And she will never stop being punished for it.

It's disgusting to think how many Australians would celebrate if Higgins ever committed suicide.

Why do you think it hasn't been completed? Who/what do you think is preventing it being completed?

 

[CM86]

Why do you think it hasn't been completed? Who/what do you think is preventing it being completed?

You answer your question first.

Because I'll give you my answer, but you'll never give yours.

Unless your framing of the question is deliberate, in that you're trying to just say it's the current Government 'preventing it being completed'.
But no one could be that gutless and pathetic, right?

 

[jason_recliner]

You answer your question first.

Because I'll give you my answer, but you'll never give yours.

Unless your framing of the question is deliberate, in that you're trying to just say it's the current Government 'preventing it being completed'.
But no one could be that gutless and pathetic, right?

I've already said I don't know why it wasn't completed.

 

[CM86]

I've already said I don't know why it wasn't completed.

Your question is about what you THINK, not what you KNOW.

I shouldn't need to explain your own question to you.

I'm so sick of the spineless dishonesty of so many people on these forums.

 

[jason_recliner]

Your question is about what you THINK, not what you KNOW.

I shouldn't need to explain your own question to you.

I'm so sick of the spineless dishonesty of so many people on these forums.

I guess the investigation didn't find anything of interest/consequence so finalising the report isn't a priority and the resources were allocated elsewhere.

 

[BFew]

https://www.news.com.au/national/nsw-act/courts-law/bruce-lehrmann-wants-seven-figure-payment-to-compensate-for-rapist-finding-court/news-story/7d4052c602f84e51d54a133fcf75b908

'Bruce Lehrmann wants ‘seven figure’ payment to compensate for rapist finding: court'​

'October 17, 2024 - 7:02PM
...
Lehrmann’s solicitor Zali Burrows, in documents released by the court on Thursday as part of a proposed appeal, described that estimation as inadequate and said he should be awarded a six to seven figure sum.

“$20,000 for a false charge of rape is manifestly inadequate and (Lehrmann) should be awarded either a seven-figure sum or at least hundreds of thousands of dollars,” Burrows said.
...

 

[BFew]

Young People Agree to Total Ban on Internet After Terms ‘Bruce Lehrmann’ and ‘OnlyFans’ Mentioned in Same Sentence — The Shovel

“We’re calling on the Government to shut down the world wide web and all internet connectivity immediately"

theshovel.com.au

'Young People Agree to Total Ban on Internet After Terms ‘Bruce Lehrmann’ and ‘OnlyFans’ Mentioned in Same Sentence'​

...
'Meanwhile Lehrmann’s lawyers say they are considering an OnlyFans account for their client whereby users would pay not to see his content. “We think the us could raise considerable funds very quickly”.'

 

[Underarrest_]

https://www.news.com.au/national/nsw-act/courts-law/bruce-lehrmann-wants-seven-figure-payment-to-compensate-for-rapist-finding-court/news-story/7d4052c602f84e51d54a133fcf75b908

'Bruce Lehrmann wants ‘seven figure’ payment to compensate for rapist finding: court'​

'October 17, 2024 - 7:02PM
...
Lehrmann’s solicitor Zali Burrows, in documents released by the court on Thursday as part of a proposed appeal, described that estimation as inadequate and said he should be awarded a six to seven figure sum.

“$20,000 for a false charge of rape is manifestly inadequate and (Lehrmann) should be awarded either a seven-figure sum or at least hundreds of thousands of dollars,” Burrows said.
...

Just when you thought you’d heard everything....

 

[jason_recliner]

https://www.news.com.au/national/nsw-act/courts-law/bruce-lehrmann-wants-seven-figure-payment-to-compensate-for-rapist-finding-court/news-story/7d4052c602f84e51d54a133fcf75b908

'Bruce Lehrmann wants ‘seven figure’ payment to compensate for rapist finding: court'​

'October 17, 2024 - 7:02PM
...
Lehrmann’s solicitor Zali Burrows, in documents released by the court on Thursday as part of a proposed appeal, described that estimation as inadequate and said he should be awarded a six to seven figure sum.

“$20,000 for a false charge of rape is manifestly inadequate and (Lehrmann) should be awarded either a seven-figure sum or at least hundreds of thousands of dollars,” Burrows said.
...

Somebody needs to remind Leerman that's it's not a false charge.

 

[Satan]

Somebody needs to remind Leerman that's it's not a false charge.

criminally yes

 

[Kurve]

criminally yes

How could the criminal charges be false? Lehrmann wasn't acquitted, the trial fell apart and with Lee later finding the DPP was correct in pursuing a conviction.

 

[Lady O]

How could the criminal charges be false? Lehrmann wasn't acquitted, the trial fell apart and with Lee later finding the DPP was correct in pursuing a conviction.

Charges were dropped.

 

[Kurve]

Charges were dropped.

The DPP chose not to take him to trial again, this happens all the time. We commonly enough see it when victims of DV make a statement, someone gets charged and then the pressure on them is too much and they don't follow through.

It doesn't mean they were not a victim of assault.

 

[Lady O]

The DPP chose not to take him to trial again, this happens all the time. We commonly enough see it when victims of DV make a statement, someone gets charged and then the pressure on them is too much and they don't follow through.

It doesn't mean they were not a victim of assault.

Or that the person who's charges were dropped was guilty.

 

[jason_recliner]

Or that the person who's charges were dropped was guilty.

No, he was found to be guilty in a later civil trial. It's really simple.

 

[Lady O]

No, he was found to be guilty in a later civil trial. It's really simple.

Not really. The standard of 'beyond reasonable doubt' doesn't apply at a civil trial.

 

[Kurve]

Not really. The standard of 'beyond reasonable doubt' doesn't apply at a civil trial.

Lehrmann might have had a case if it was determined to be a malicious prosecution but it wasn't.

 

[jason_recliner]

Not really. The standard of 'beyond reasonable doubt' doesn't apply at a civil trial.

Did you watch the trial? The evidence was overwhelming. Beyond a reasonable doubt.

 

[Festerz]

Lehrmann might have had a case if it was determined to be a malicious prosecution but it wasn't.

And again a reminder that the jury was asked to find Lehrmann either Guilty or Not Guilty by unanimous verdict as was required for criminal trials under ACT legislation prevailing at the time.

They found neither before a mistrial was declared due to juror misconduct in October 2022

The DPP said he still believed there was a reasonable prospect of conviction at a second trial. But decided that a retrial would be against the public interest in proceeding, given a retrial would pose a “significant and unacceptable risk to the life of the complainant”.

Since that Lerhmann trial, in April this year the ACT Government has subsequently enacted legislation for criminal trials where courts may now accept a verdict if 11 out of 12 jurors agree, minimising the risk of hung juries and retrials.