Buckley > Hird > Voss

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Zeke

Brownlow Medallist
May 30, 2003
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Collingwood
Other Teams
Bulls
2006:

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Career:

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Conclusion:

Buckley > Hird > Voss
 
Ummm... yes, for 2006. Bucks has a good game last week and you come up with this?

Hirds hardly played a game this year..... much like Bucks' 2005.

Doesnt matter how many threads you make its still

Voss&Hird
*daylight*
Bucks.

As far as career goes, you have to admit there were a number of years Bucks was an outside receiver; while Voss and Hird were in and under players.

:thumbsu:
 

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Voss > Hird >> Buckley OBVIOUSLY.

The difference ? Buckley will never win a Premiership so Zeke take that rock out of your arse, you are startign to spout crap again. :thumbsu:
 
AaronM said:
Voss > Hird >> Buckley OBVIOUSLY.

The difference ? Buckley will never win a Premiership so Zeke take that rock out of your arse, you are startign to spout crap again. :thumbsu:

You're a dimwit!

Teams win premierships, not individuals.
 
Zeke said:
Opinion (Ari) Vs Fact (Zeke).
Not really.... my opinion would be that Hird is a God and I want his illigitimate children *clears throat*.

Fact is that Bucks kicks are nearly double that of the other two.... this raises, dramatically, his statistics. Many of the kicks he's had has been that of an outside player. Why? Because he has a long and accurate kicking boot... he can get the ball and pass it 40-50 metres onto someones chest. A fantastic attribute.

A better stat would be hard ball and so on.... the stats youve shown show possessions and disposal and that doesnt make a champion. Its the 1percenters that make a champion. Sitting on the back wing for 5 years cleaning up doesnt make Bucks a better player. Ive no doubt he's a champion in his own right and a fantastic player. An incredible and loyal serveant to the CFC, but it doesnt matter how you slice it.... he's just not Hird or Voss.

And yes, that is my 'opinion', but I think you'll find it's shared amoung peers.
 
tomthetiger said:
Rating a footy player is the one time where facts, or stats arent as important as a general consensus. Voss > Hird > Buckley - in terms of career.

Buckley has had a far more productive (personally) career than the other two.

The others have had better cattle surrounding them, too.
 
Ari said:
Ummm... yes, for 2006. Bucks has a good game last week and you come up with this?

Hirds hardly played a game this year..... much like Bucks' 2005.

Doesnt matter how many threads you make its still

Voss&Hird
*daylight*
Bucks.

As far as career goes, you have to admit there were a number of years Bucks was an outside receiver; while Voss and Hird were in and under players.

:thumbsu:
dont bring out the receiver vs in and under argument they get very sensitive if u call little nathan a soft receiver.
stats arent 'fact', there are such things as courage, leadership and presence. obviously this is a 'bay13' thread so enough said, but i know how disappointed i am it was Buckley that went to Collingwood 'TO PLAY MORE FINALS FOOTY :D ', and not Voss...:rolleyes:
 
Zeke said:
No. The stats prove it.

And the stats prove you are back to your rubbish posting. Do you reall ywant other people to regard you as an absolute tool AGAIN ?

if so you are doing a good job of it. :thumbsu:
 

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Zeke said:
Buckley has had a far more productive (personally) career than the other two.

The others have had better cattle surrounding them, too.
the other two have the ability to lift the spirit of the whole team in 5 minutes, and make their 'cattle' look good by being such great leaders.
 
Well when Jimmy the great gets back we will see how well he goes playing in a crap side. Bux has done it many times and was the shining light. Lets see if Jimmy can do it to.

As for Voss, not fit to be included when champs are discussed, champs do not trash talk, belittle opponents and takcle with clenched fists and operate in the grey area of the laws of the game.
 
morgoth said:
Well when Jimmy the great gets back we will see how well he goes playing in a crap side. Bux has done it many times and was the shining light. Lets see if Jimmy can do it to.

As for Voss, not fit to be included when champs are discussed, champs do not trash talk, belittle opponents and takcle with clenched fists and operate in the grey area of the laws of the game.
Or wipe blood on an opponent....Lower than a two bit Bangkok street walker
 
Extremely tough one. All great players. Take out my bias (leave out Hird) and i would rate Voss, slightly above Buckley.
Both magnificent, but one is a triple premiership captain. Say what you like about his cattle, ONE IS A TRIPLE PREMIERSHIP CAPTAIN!

They are as common as rocking horse sh#t.

Bucks is on par with Hird, Roo and Harvey. Guys like big Nick, Bazza Hall and Jonathon Brown will all join them one day.

But Voss is out there on his own.

Re Zeke's possession stats, if stats really matter, Heath Scotland will be AA this year, and everyone at Collingwood will be pulling there hair out desperately wondering why this guy is not still with them. Voss never received the open ball from his players like Buckley did, so his stats will always be lower. His posessions were the ones that made all independant and unbiased supporters shake there heads in AWE!

Voss is the boss!
 
Zeke said:
The others have had better cattle surrounding them, too.

Great leaders bring the best out of their fellow players. Buckley is not a great leader.
 
As an interesting aside...

Buckley has consistently been amongst Collingwood's top hard-ball-get ratings for nearly a decade.

Continue to ignore the truth at your own discretion, though.
 
Continue to ignore the truth at your own discretion, though.[/quote]

Zekeman, or shall we call you the bay 13 buccaneer. All unbiased followers of this great game rate the Bucks. Nobody would have him not in there top 5. So chill out.

It is just that all non Pie supporters, do not; by definition, have the black and white blinkers on. We have all seen the two masters play, and everyone thinks that Voss is the boss.

We do not need stats, my bay 13 predator, to decide this. We have all seen them both play for a decade plus.

Bucks makes you sit back and clap hard. Vossy's strength pulls you off your seat.

He is a freak.

But we all still love your Bucks!

VOSS = BOSS
 
Zeke and Morgoth and co are so sore that Voss is rated about their boy Nathan by everyone other than themself, that they are now just carrying on like pork-chops.

No one is disputing that Buckley will go down in history as a tremendous player, but in most people's opinons, he will be a little further down the list than Voss and Hird.
 

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