Buddy "incoherent" at Grand Prix.

[Bosk]

http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/franklin-off-course-at-grand-prix-20130327-2gupr.html


If you read between the lines it seems pretty obvious (to me at least) why Buddy was "out of sorts".

He may be the game's most talented player but at what point do we need to consider what kind of influence he's having over the other 40+ blokes on our list? I've always believed that no single player is more important than the club itself, and this latest incident isn't exactly going to do the club's image any favors.

The lack of club sanction to me also indicates what I've long suspected - that noone at Hawthorn dares to discipline Franklin because they're paranoid he'll walk out if he isn't treated with kid gloves.

 

[Cyril the Squirrel]

http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/franklin-off-course-at-grand-prix-20130327-2gupr.html


If you read between the lines it seems pretty obvious (to me at least) why Buddy was "out of sorts".

He may be the game's most talented player but at what point do we need to consider what kind of influence he's having over the other 40+ blokes on our list? I've always believed that no single player is more important than the club itself, and this latest incident isn't exactly going to do the club's image any favors.

The lack of club sanction to me also indicates what I've long suspected - that noone at Hawthorn dares to discipline Franklin because they're paranoid he'll walk out if he isn't treated with kid gloves.

Sebastian Vettel-ish.

 

[Messenger]

Just the sort of thing that makes you want to cough up a double digit percentage of your salary cap.

 

[Messenger]

http://m.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/franklin-off-course-at-grand-prix-20130327-2gupr.html

New contract will buy a lot of disco biscuits.

 

[Wurundjeri]

Big deal, the guy was pissed, has anyone posting ever had a few too many? I'm incredulous at the comments on here! Buddy Is our greatest marketing asset and you guys want to cut him loose for being drunk. Caroline Wilson can take a long walk of the proverbial. UFB! I love still love you Buddy.

 

[Southern Urchins]

Just the sort of thing that makes you want to cough up a double digit percentage of your salary cap.

Disgusted he has not faced any sanction!
Brian Lake must be stoked too.

 

[Wurundjeri]

Dear Bosk, you do realise we finished on top of the ladder last year!? If it was thirteenth your comments may have some merit. Instead you're trying to big note yourself by putting the Big Fella down. How quickly some of you 'supposed' Hawthorn people are turning on one of our greatest. Shame!

 

[Bosk]

Big deal, the guy was pissed, has anyone posting ever had a few too many? I'm incredulous at the comments on here! Buddy Is our greatest marketing asset and you guys want to cut him loose for being drunk. Caroline Wilson can take a long walk of the proverbial. UFB! I love still love you Buddy.

If it was alcohol related I'm sure Caro would have mentioned it.

Quite clearly Buddy was "incoherent" but not drunk. Can you put two and two together or does it need to be spelled out in black & white?

 

[Southern Urchins]

Dear Bosk, you do realise we finished on top of the ladder last year!? If it was thirteenth your comments may have some merit. Instead you're trying to big note yourself by putting the Big Fella down. How quickly some of you 'supposed' Hawthorn people are turning on one of our greatest. Shame!

It's unreasonable that supporters and members want each player to face the same discipline for similar offences?

 

[Southern Urchins]

If it was alcohol related I'm sure Caro would have mentioned it.

Quite clearly Buddy was "incoherent" but not drunk. Can you put two and two together or does it need to be spelled out in black & white?

I just wish she had the moral courage to say exactly what she was implying. It's very deliberate her use of the word "incoherent"

 

[Wurundjeri]

Bosk, unlike you I infer nothing sinister as I'm a Hawthorn man to the bone. I would never turn on my own or have the temerity to besmirch a great on our own board.

 

[Messenger]

Bosk, unlike you I infer nothing sinister as I'm a Hawthorn man to the bone. I would never turn on my own or have the temerity to besmirch a great on our own board.

If this was "a mate said he saw this" thread, then I'd agree. It's been reported in The Age, however.

We are negotiating a massive contract with Buddy. I think the way he behaves in public is worth discussion.

 

[grizzlym]

I think the most interesting part of the article is the last paragraph with the quote from Kennett.

 

[crazywildhorse]

More Buddy Adjectives (sigh):

Buddy Busted
Buddy off
Buddy legless
Buddy wrong
Buddy crazy
Buddy zing
Buddy choof
Buddy hot
Buddy Coherent...

 

[crazywildhorse]

Meanwhile on the other channel:

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/afl/tea...rand-final-spray/story-e6frf9lx-1226607964483

 

[Agent Smith]

From a casual observance, it's akin to watching a time bomb, just waiting for the explosion...

Maybe there's a little more to not signing a contract than first thought. Right now, Buddy is holding all the aces and doesn't have to kowtow to club demands as much as he would if he was signed, sealed and delivered... well, at least in Buddy's mind. Perhaps he's simply trying to leverage a bit of risque behaviour before the contract suffocates his 'fun'? If that's how he's thinking, it's a bit of a dangerous road he's travelling.

Then again, maybe he's not thinking that at all and I'm full of shit. That sounds much more plausible, even to me.

 

[Woodside Hawk]

Reading the article it sounds fairly innocent to me. Reads as if he had a long afternoon enjoying the laid on hospitality and made a dick of himself in front of the boss. Not a huge deal.

It's not like the Lake incident. Lake was picked up by the cops. Different level of trouble involved.

I honestly believe the club would not hesitate to sanction Buddy if it were serious.

Could even work in their favour in negotiations if Bud's depicted as going off the rails.

 

[Flukey!]

Woodsides summation hopefully is correct.
We shouldn't assume anything because the word incoherent was used.
The boy was having a day out.

 

[Furn2]

If it was alcohol related I'm sure Caro would have mentioned it.

Quite clearly Buddy was "incoherent" but not drunk. Can you put two and two together or does it need to be spelled out in black & white?

What else makes you incoherent ?

 

[MC_9]

The bloke is 26 years old, and had a few too many in the off season with some mates. Sounds like every single one of my weekends.

Big deal.

 

[xellis8]

What else makes you incoherent ?

Let's not forget that Caro has had it in for Buddy ever since Richmond passed on him. Her choice of the words 'incoherent' and 'out of sorts' is deliberate. Rather than saying 'pissed' she tries to make us think 'was he drunk or was it something else?'
Was she there? Is her 'source' able to differentiate between what particular stimulant was affecting Buddy?
Pure muck-raking from a 'journo' who usually takes herself so seriously you'd think she'd be above this level of gutter-sniping.

 

[MinerBoy]

If it was alcohol related I'm sure Caro would have mentioned it.

Quite clearly Buddy was "incoherent" but not drunk. Can you put two and two together or does it need to be spelled out in black & white?

Buddy's often incoherent when interviewed on field straight after a game. Just saying....

 

[savagelunchbox]

http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/franklin-off-course-at-grand-prix-20130327-2gupr.html


If you read between the lines it seems pretty obvious (to me at least) why Buddy was "out of sorts".

He may be the game's most talented player but at what point do we need to consider what kind of influence he's having over the other 40+ blokes on our list? I've always believed that no single player is more important than the club itself, and this latest incident isn't exactly going to do the club's image any favors.

The lack of club sanction to me also indicates what I've long suspected - that noone at Hawthorn dares to discipline Franklin because they're paranoid he'll walk out if he isn't treated with kid gloves.

So Norfy, you think that because there hasn't been a publicized hanging and torture of Buddy, he isn't going to get reprimanded for his bad choices?

 

[Great 2008]

Anything Caro says, sounds incoherent to me.

 

[Adebisi]

Let's not forget that Caro has had it in for Buddy ever since Richmond passed on him. Her choice of the words 'incoherent' and 'out of sorts' is deliberate. Rather than saying 'pissed' she tries to make us think 'was he drunk or was it something else?'
Was she there? Is her 'source' able to differentiate between what particular stimulant was affecting Buddy?
Pure muck-raking from a 'journo' who usually takes herself so seriously you'd think she'd be above this level of gutter-sniping.

I can't say I agree with that. According to this board every single media person/journo as well as every member of the afl has it in for Hawthorn..