Buddy's developing place on the All-Time Ladder

[Guardian Hawk]

Hey fellow Hawks, as someone who has spent most working days reading these boards but rarely posting, you may not know me (my first thread);

Anyway, as someone who enjoys the little things about our game and most importantly, the feats of Hawthorn players, I was toying with a (somewhat trivial) idea. I thought I would post, week-by-week, Buudy's place on the Alltime VFL/AFL Goalkicking list, so we can see him overtake our favourite/hated/current players and see the unfolding of what place in history he takes.

For example, this week:

Buddy moved to # 408 on the All-Time List with 175 goals

This week he overtook:
409 174 Alves, S.266 1965 Melbourne/Nth Melb
410 174 Bruns, N.223 1978 Geelong
411 174 Richardson, M.156 1983 Collingwood/Essendon/Bris Bears
412 174 Bayes, M.246 1985 Sydney
413 174 Gleeson, A. 176 1986 Carlton
414 174 Hall, T. 114 1988 Hawthorn/Adelaide
415 174 Lappin, N.* 279 1994 Bris Lions/Bris Bears
416 173 Mensch, D. 158 1992 Geelong
417 172 Bairstow, M. 146 1987 Geelong
418 172 Campbell, W. 297 1991 Richmond
419 172 Johnson, C. 264 1994 Bris Lions/Fitzroy
420 171 Cooper, R. 159 1932 Carlton/Nth Melb
421 171 Ross, J. 139 1946 St Kilda
422 171 Branton, R. 170 1953 Richmond
423 171 McGowan, B. 118 1955 Sth Melb
424 171 Elshaug, T. 137 1979 Melbourne/Essendon/Collingwood
425 171 Buhagiar, T. 108 1981 Essendon/Footscray
426 171 Heatley, J. 63 1995 West Coast/St Kilda
427 170 Harvey, M. 206 1984 Essendon
428 170 Broderick, P. 262 1988 Fitzroy/Richmond
429 170 Edwards, T.* 276 1995 Adelaide
430 170 Mooney, C.* 153 1999 Geelong/Kangaroos

Is this a something you guys are interested in? I can do it anyway you like, say 3 players above and below? only when he ovetakes current players? Hawks? Big names? etc.

If this is boring, that's fine too!

 

[Leather Poisoning]

Hey fellow Hawks, as someone who has spent most working days reading these boards but rarely posting, you may not know me (my first thread);

Anyway, as someone who enjoys the little things about our game and most importantly, the feats of Hawthorn players, I was toying with a (somewhat trivial) idea. I thought I would post, week-by-week, Buudy's place on the Alltime VFL/AFL Goalkicking list, so we can see him overtake our favourite/hated/current players and see the unfolding of what place in history he takes.

For example, this week:

Buddy moved to # 408 on the All-Time List with 175 goals

This week he overtook:
409 174 Alves, S.266 1965 Melbourne/Nth Melb
410 174 Bruns, N.223 1978 Geelong
411 174 Richardson, M.156 1983 Collingwood/Essendon/Bris Bears
412 174 Bayes, M.246 1985 Sydney
413 174 Gleeson, A. 176 1986 Carlton
414 174 Hall, T. 114 1988 Hawthorn/Adelaide
415 174 Lappin, N.* 279 1994 Bris Lions/Bris Bears
416 173 Mensch, D. 158 1992 Geelong
417 172 Bairstow, M. 146 1987 Geelong
418 172 Campbell, W. 297 1991 Richmond
419 172 Johnson, C. 264 1994 Bris Lions/Fitzroy
420 171 Cooper, R. 159 1932 Carlton/Nth Melb
421 171 Ross, J. 139 1946 St Kilda
422 171 Branton, R. 170 1953 Richmond
423 171 McGowan, B. 118 1955 Sth Melb
424 171 Elshaug, T. 137 1979 Melbourne/Essendon/Collingwood
425 171 Buhagiar, T. 108 1981 Essendon/Footscray
426 171 Heatley, J. 63 1995 West Coast/St Kilda
427 170 Harvey, M. 206 1984 Essendon
428 170 Broderick, P. 262 1988 Fitzroy/Richmond
429 170 Edwards, T.* 276 1995 Adelaide
430 170 Mooney, C.* 153 1999 Geelong/Kangaroos

Is this a something you guys are interested in? I can do it anyway you like, say 3 players above and below? only when he ovetakes current players? Hawks? Big names? etc.

If this is boring, that's fine too!

Mate this is the place for all things football, so go right ahead.

Would like to see who he's catching up to!

Great Bay 13 ammo.

 

[SodaPop]

Wow, he's gone past Tony hall, one of my favourites at 21!!

 

[Guardian Hawk]

Mate this is the place for all things football, so go right ahead.

Would like to see who he's catching up to!

Great Bay 13 ammo.

Sure, say all players within 5 goals, or the next 10 current players he will catch?

FWIW (sneak preview),
next current players to be left in his wake;

# 396 S.Johnson 178 goals
# 394 B.Holland (Mel) 178
# 388 P.Chapman 180
# 373 C.Jones 184
# 371 Q.Lynch 185

 

[Buddy Hero]

Good thread
Hopefully thats not the only M Richardson he over takes

 

[Mervyn Beasley]

Go for it.
Not sure though if it might be better on Hawk Board to keep idiots out, but if you are not a regular poster/thread starter you may not have access.

 

[Forzaport]

As an outsider, i'd be interested. Keep em coming.

 

[Hodgepodge]

Love it

 

[jaydub]

How kind and polite is Guardian Hawk?
Keep it up, t'is a great idea!

 

[noosa hawk mad]

Good idea mate love the stats Guardian Hawk

 

[Flamin Joe]

Great idea.

Out of interest, where do you go to get stats like this?

 

[moginie]

Great idea.
God only knows where Buddy or this thread will be in 10 years time.

 

[DynamoUltra]

- he has more goals than C. Mooney. LOL.

 

[andrepetz]

No shit - he has more goals than C. Mooney. LOL.

Well considering he played a lot of his career in defence........

 

[Thaihawk]

Very interesting stats. Keep it going.

 

[The Cryptkeeper]

This is a brilliant thread.

It should be stickied.

 

[Guardian Hawk]

Thanks very much for the appraisals guys!

I'll do it week by week, listing who he has overtaken.

Figure it will be more fun to see which names come up and how many places he moves once it happens, rather than watching him eventually catch up to someone.

If you have better suggestions (please be specific) then post 'em up!

Great idea.

Out of interest, where do you go to get stats like this?

Was after them for a while, then found them in the nether regions of allthestats.com (records section)- this is a pretty comprehensive site for those of us that are footy obssessed.

 

[Hodgepodge]

361 187 Eason, B. 220 1902 Geelong
362 187 McNamara, D. 122 1905 St Kilda
363 187 McGuinness, T. 222 1986 Footscray/Adelaide
364 187 Bruce, C.* 172 2000 Melbourne
365 187 Didak, A.* 130 2001 Collingwood
366 186 Davie, H. 58 1924 Melbourne/Carlton
367 186 Lewis, D. 182 1990 Sydney
368 186 Burgoyne, P.* 219 1997 Port Adel
369 186 Lynch, Q.* 117 2002 West Coast
370 185 Johnstone, N. 228 1944 Fitzroy
371 185 Lord, A. 150 1994 Geelong/Hawthorn
372 184 Duperouzel, B. 164 1974 St Kilda/Footscray
373 184 Jones, C.* 136 2001 Kangaroos/Nth Melb
374 184 Franklin, L.* 67 0 Hawthorn
375 183 Darcy, L. 226 1994 Footscray/W Bulldogs
376 182 Flanagan, F. 163 1946 Geelong
377 182 Townsend, J. 153 1962 Melbourne
378 182 Waters, T. 163 1963 Collingwood
379 182 Daffy, N. 166 1992 Richmond/Sydney
380 181 Merrick, B. 59 1919 Fitzroy

There's a massive logjam at this part of the list, he'll probably jump 20 spots next week

 

[BuddyTwoThree]

361 187 Eason, B. 220 1902 Geelong
362 187 McNamara, D. 122 1905 St Kilda
363 187 McGuinness, T. 222 1986 Footscray/Adelaide
364 187 Bruce, C.* 172 2000 Melbourne
365 187 Didak, A.* 130 2001 Collingwood
366 186 Davie, H. 58 1924 Melbourne/Carlton
367 186 Lewis, D. 182 1990 Sydney
368 186 Burgoyne, P.* 219 1997 Port Adel
369 186 Lynch, Q.* 117 2002 West Coast
370 185 Johnstone, N. 228 1944 Fitzroy
371 185 Lord, A. 150 1994 Geelong/Hawthorn
372 184 Duperouzel, B. 164 1974 St Kilda/Footscray
373 184 Jones, C.* 136 2001 Kangaroos/Nth Melb
374 184 Franklin, L.* 67 0 Hawthorn
375 183 Darcy, L. 226 1994 Footscray/W Bulldogs
376 182 Flanagan, F. 163 1946 Geelong
377 182 Townsend, J. 153 1962 Melbourne
378 182 Waters, T. 163 1963 Collingwood
379 182 Daffy, N. 166 1992 Richmond/Sydney
380 181 Merrick, B. 59 1919 Fitzroy

There's a massive logjam at this part of the list, he'll probably jump 20 spots next week

Interested to see Bob Merrick (3 goals less from 8 games less) and Harry Davie (2 goals more from 9 games less) in the lower-scoring eras of the 1910's and 20's. Those guys must've been good!

 

[Hodgepodge]

Interested to see Bob Merrick (3 goals less from 8 games less) and Harry Davie (2 goals more from 9 games less) in the lower-scoring eras of the 1910's and 20's. Those guys must've been good!

certainly got good stats, hard to say how the game was being played back then though, 59 games is a very short career considering the goals being kicked, must've done a knee or something which would've been career-ending at that time.

 

[Buddy Hero]

i spose roughy is still too deep in the pack to worry about how many people he is overtaking but can we show him some love and keep his position up to date each week too?

 

[Thrust]

Does this have stats like fastest time to reach a set number of goals?

IE. When he reaches 200 goals will he have done it in less games than lloyd, dunstall, hudson, coleman, plugga etc?

that would be interesting

 

[phreeze77]

Peter Sumich Kicked something like 45,90,111 in his first 3 seasons in the AFL.

Something I picked up from watching the 1991 Grand Final again.

 

[The Cryptkeeper]

Peter Sumich Kicked something like 45,90,111 in his first 3 seasons in the AFL.

Something I picked up from watching the 1991 Grand Final again.

He was borderline great Sumich and his name often gets lost in discussions surrounding the great forwards of his era.

He was a gun alright.

 

[Hodgepodge]

so many great full forwards in the 90s . . . buddy may be the only man to kick 100 in a season this decade!