Traded Cameron McCarthy [traded to Fremantle with picks 7, 33 and 71 for pick 3]

[freo_leo29]

They might also get black for peanuts, who when up and running is a handy player.

LOL don't try and ship him off to us, he is useless and we already have Apeness, Taberner, McCarthy and soon Kersten ahead of him. Hell Smith was better then him and we delisted him, wouldn't surprise me if Uebergang proves better by mid way through next year

 

[swooshacummings]

Great trading Freo.. in 2 seasons you may have acquired Bennell, McCarthy, Hill, Kersten, Hamling and Black....

That is a fair effort and one that could see you guys back in the eight very quickly, injuries permitting

 

[mightymouse75]

Great trading Freo.. in 2 seasons you may have acquired Bennell, McCarthy, Hill, Kersten, Hamling and Black....

That is a fair effort and one that could see you guys back in the eight very quickly, injuries permitting

M'Carthy and bennel will be huge if both are fit come 2017. Hill is a question mark and the other 2 aren't getting much game time at their current clubs

 

[Moggy]

Not being funny, but what kind of shape is he in? In the (I am guessing, recent) pic on the AFL site (in WAFL guernsey) he looks like he's never seen the inside of a gym in his life.

 

[tonygeeks]

Most freo supporters happy with our trade ....not me , I have a hard and fast rule to never trade for anyone nicknamed ; sunshine , the package , daisy , the big show , wizard/wiz or any other magic related theme , any farm animal related names such as chook or piggy , Hollywood , killer and anyone with a nickname that is just their last name with an o on the end


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[Timmy from Thomastown]

Bargain for Fremantle, bascially got him for free. . The pick switch alone was a fair trade and they got McCarthy on top!!

Foolish decision by GWS to hold him for ransom for a year.

 

[Bokonon]

Bargain for Fremantle, bascially got him for free. . The pick switch alone was a fair trade and they got McCarthy on top!!

Foolish decision by GWS to hold him for ransom for a year.

If decling to trade a contracted player is holding anyone to ransom, no doubt you'd be happy for the Pies to trade us any contracted player we wanted?

Actually, on reflection forget it. Treloar's done his dash with us and I cant think of anyone else.

 

[Timmy from Thomastown]

If decling to trade a contracted player is holding anyone to ransom, no doubt you'd be happy for the Pies to trade us any contracted player we wanted?

Actually, on reflection forget it. Treloar's done his dash with us and I cant think of anyone else.

Yes if the player wants out then the best option is to get a deal done.

Something is always better than nothing.

 

[Bokonon]

Yes if the player wants out then the best option is to get a deal done.

Something is always better than nothing.

Integrity comes at a price

 

[Timmy from Thomastown]

Integrity comes at a price

The high moral ground has cost GWS.

He wanted out, you should have traded him when he had value. You left him rot for a year and traded him for peanuts.

 

[Bokonon]

The high moral ground has cost GWS.

He wanted out, you should have traded him when he had value. You left him rot for a year and traded him for peanuts.

Not at all, answer is in my original post

 

[Ressies runner]

Most freo supporters happy with our trade ....not me , I have a hard and fast rule to never trade for anyone nicknamed ; sunshine , the package , daisy , the big show , wizard/wiz or any other magic related theme , any farm animal related names such as chook or piggy , Hollywood , killer and anyone with a nickname that is just their last name with an o on the end


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Thats everyone then lol

 

[theGav56]

Not at all, answer is in my original post

Nah. Your post was a steaming pile of poop. It talked about getting any player you wanted, and left out the detail about the player wanting to go to you as was the case with McCarthy. Pretty sure that excludes Treloar for eternity too.

 

[Timmy from Thomastown]

Not at all, answer is in my original post

You didn't say anything in your original post.

What is an absolute fact is that the deal you could have done a year ago is a million miles better than the deal you have done this year, which amounts to giving McCarthy away for nothing.

You can argue till you're blue in the face about whether your club did the right or wrong thing by making this sacrifice ( I'm not partivulaly interested ) but it was a sacrifice regardless .

 

[manny100]

It strikes me that Freo are better off with McCarthy, Taberner and Kersten plus a gun from pick 7, than if they had sold the farm for Hogan

Multi pronged attacks are so important these days, etc

Am I the only one who thinks this?

I think you and Luke Beveridge are the only two who see this. But you can bet the penny will drop very soon. Plus Freo's small forwards are not to bad either.

 

[Bokonon]

You didn't say anything in your original post.

What is an absolute fact is that the deal you could have done a year ago is a million miles better than the deal you have done this year, which amounts to giving McCarthy away for nothing.

You can argue till you're blue in the face about whether your club did the right or wrong thing by making this sacrifice ( I'm not partivulaly interested ) but it was a sacrifice regardless .

Codswallop

 

[The Fid]

The high moral ground has cost GWS.

He wanted out, you should have traded him when he had value. You left him rot for a year and traded him for peanuts.

I don't think it's unreasonable for a club to want a player to stick around if they are contracted.

Nor can a club be ridiculed for not predicting the future, and knowing, in this case, that the 2015 preliminary finalists were going to have such a bad year and finish 3rd last.

Hypothetical Scenario:

Darcy Moore is not a father / son to the Pies, he's just a player they drafted from New South Wales early in the second round.
Swans make the Grand Final this year and knock on Collingwood's door and say, we'll give you our first (17) and next year's first for him, even though he has a further 3 years remaining on his contract. The Swans are among the flag favourites for 2017 so that first pick might be pick 18.

Would you be happy to take that deal, or would you prefer the Pies try and sway Moore in to staying with them, or would you honestly (and not to suit your argument in the case of McCarthy because it has nothing at all to do with you) want Collingwood to do that trade?

 

[Bokonon]

Nah. Your post was a steaming pile of poop. It talked about getting any player you wanted, and left out the detail about the player wanting to go to you as was the case with McCarthy. Pretty sure that excludes Treloar for eternity too.

 

[Rod Stroker]

LOL don't try and ship him off to us, he is useless and we already have Apeness, Taberner, McCarthy and soon Kersten ahead of him. Hell Smith was better then him and we delisted him, wouldn't surprise me if Uebergang proves better by mid way through next year

LOL! It's been Freo who has approached us year after year about him, not the other way around.

 

[Timmy from Thomastown]

I don't think it's unreasonable for a club to want a player to stick around if they are contracted.

Nor can a club be ridiculed for not predicting the future, and knowing, in this case, that the 2015 preliminary finalists were going to have such a bad year and finish 3rd last.

Hypothetical Scenario:

Darcy Moore is not a father / son to the Pies, he's just a player they drafted from New South Wales early in the second round.
Swans make the Grand Final this year and knock on Collingwood's door and say, we'll give you our first (17) and next year's first for him, even though he has a further 3 years remaining on his contract. The Swans are among the flag favourites for 2017 so that first pick might be pick 18.

Would you be happy to take that deal, or would you prefer the Pies try and sway Moore in to staying with them, or would you honestly (and not to suit your argument in the case of McCarthy because it has nothing at all to do with you) want Collingwood to do that trade?

I have already stated I would expect my club to honour a players wishes, if they dont want to be there then trade them for as good a deal as you can get. The word happy doesnt come into it. Of course I wouldnt be happy. But you do the best deal you can and you move on.

You dont seriously believe you ever had any chance of getting McCarthy to change his mind after the trade fell through do you?

Not sure what Freos ladder position has to do with anything. You need to worry about your own list when trading, not other teams lists.

 

[WestCoast05]

I think you and Luke Beveridge are the only two who see this. But you can bet the penny will drop very soon. Plus Freo's small forwards are not to bad either.

Yep, McCarthy, Kerston, Taberner, Walters, D.Pearce, Yarran/Balla is starting to look like quite a formiddable forward line being fed by Fyfe, Neale, S.Hill, B.Hill, Bennell, Mundy - I think Freo will be next years biggest riser and head straight back into the 8 (assuming they get a fair run with injuries).

 

[The Fid]

I have already stated I would expect my club to honour a players wishes, if they dont want to be there then trade them for as good a deal as you can get. The word happy doesnt come into it. Of course I wouldnt be happy. But you do the best deal you can and you move on.

You dont seriously believe you ever had any chance of getting McCarthy to change his mind after the trade fell through do you?

Not sure what Freos ladder position has to do with anything.

Well as far as the Giants were concerned they were offered a pick around the 16-18 mark, not "pick 3" so Freo's ladder position has a lot to do with it.

And yeah, the Giants thought they could change his thought process as they had already done so with Shiel, Cameron and Greene in the past in their second years at the club. Craig Lambert and Gubby Allen have been on record as saying that the second year was always the hardest for the young guys in Western Sydney and they changed the thinking of those 3 guys, why wouldn't they have backed themselves in with McCarthy?

 

[Timmy from Thomastown]

Pick 16ish is better than what you ended up with

 

[The Fid]

Pick 16ish is better than what you ended up with

With hindsight, yes it was. But you can't trade with hindsight. You can only do what you think is best for your list at the time. There are a lot of clubs out there that have made bigger blunders at draft / trade time than the Giants trying to hold on to Cam McCarthy last year.

 

[Timmy from Thomastown]

With hindsight, yes it was. But you can't trade with hindsight. You can only do what you think is best for your list at the time. There are a lot of clubs out there that have made bigger blunders at draft / trade time than the Giants trying to hold on to Cam McCarthy last year.

Fair enough (pretty sure I called at at the time so no hindsight from me) , but refusing trades by taking the "high moral ground" is a long standing bugbear of mine. StKilda could have had pick 30 and Goldsack/Wellingham for Ball but instead we got him for free with the same pick we were offering and all three were premiership players. There are a host of examples through the ages, this is just the latest.

(Then there was Nick Stevens who Port knocked back pick 30ish and a player, Scotland from memory....he went to Carlton for free)