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Carlton 95 v Essendon 00 v Geelong 07
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Didn't Port beat you at home?And your a bloody moderater.
Collingwood was propably Geelongs Biggest threat to a premiership out of the sides remaining. And you wanna start a mine is bigger than your's debate.
Wait till you play Port who have two quality rucks in their best 22 and the legspeed to exploit plodders like Bartel, Selwood, Ling and Corey on the G(gun players though). Port won't take players with an injury cloud over head into the GF if they make it. The pressure will be on Geelong to pick Egan and Steve Johnson who they need in their best 22 if they're to beat a full strength Port.
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Essendon 00 = Carlton 95 (Can't be bothered with this debate again )>>>>All>>>Fitzroy 96>>>Geelong 07.
)>>>>All>>>Fitzroy 96>>>Geelong 07.
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Both Essendon of 2000 and Carlton of 1995 are well above Geelong of 2007. Just not as mentally tough as either of those two sides IMO.
Trash? Position wise, we have you covered in most areas of the ground - especially in midfield and in defense.
And why is everyone harping on about the margin? As far as I'm concerned, a win is a win in the finals whether it be by 1 or 100 points. They still won the game, and that's all that matters!
Who cares????? Who gives a flying f#$@. This is 2007. Geelong just made the 2007 grand final. I think Carlton finished 16th. Is that right? I don't think Essendon made the finals either. Its 2007 this year. It's 2007. You guys need to start worrying about 2008.
You know what annoys me? When people judge a side based on ONE game.
Does Carlton of 1995 deserve to be judged on their poor performance in the Qualifying Final versus the 8th-paced Brisbane Bears? Of course not.
All three teams deserve to be judged on the peformance they have given over the ENTIRE season and all are exceptional teams with the 2000 side (24-1, 160% with three finals wins by 125, 45 and 60) being number one.
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Had to laugh at Bruce's comments last night that the comparison between Geelong 07 and Essendon 00 continues in that the prelim final was their toughest match of the year. Yeah, 45 points was real tough.
Bruce is an idiot.
Now there is a mixed up response.
H&A dominance is what sets you apart you say.
Port adelaide were minor premiers in 02-03 (3 and a half more wins than the Lions in 03).
Brisbane was a great finals team, blowing your theory out the window (Brisbane have never won a minor premiership)
Oh and by the way IMHO Essendon 2000 was the best single year team (and that's from a Blues supporter)
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I'll give you the fair comparison.
If Geelong win next week;
Geelong 2007's # of premierships = Essendon 2000's # of premierships = Carlton 1995's # of premierships.
Geelong fans deserve this one, no group deserves to go without success for so long.
If Geelong win next week;
Geelong 2007's # of premierships = Essendon 2000's # of premierships = Carlton 1995's # of premierships.
Geelong fans deserve this one, no group deserves to go without success for so long.
No i am pretty sure the real GF is next week, cause if the Cats lose that than the flag is not their's.
Port will take some beating, will be brimming with confidence having won the last encounter between the teams and have been there and done that before over a more fancied oponent.
Thats of course if they make the GF which they should.
Geelong are absolute specials......
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Didnt the Carlton of 1995 lose to Sydney by over 70 points? And they didnt make the finals!
Judging a team on one game is stupid
Judging a team on one game is stupid
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If they're shit, then sure they do.I'll give you the fair comparison.
If Geelong win next week;
Geelong 2007's # of premierships = Essendon 2000's # of premierships = Carlton 1995's # of premierships.
Geelong fans deserve this one, no group deserves to go without success for so long.
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No, its not.
What ever way one debates it the Geelong 2007 side would be a distant 3rd. This year it's been Geelong vs a pile of young, developing sides that are probably a year short or really wouldn't be quite good enough most years. By contrast, the year Carlton won the 6th side won 14 games (North). In the GF, barring taking their foot off the accelerator late in the game, when they were near 90 points in front, the record margin, even a 100 point victory. This against a Geelong side probably more skilfull than the current one.
This could actually be a year like 1993 when the young Bombers took the flag. If Port win today they are a massive chance. Despite rebuilding, they still have a number of premiership players in their side. If the Roos win though then Geelong's home easily.
This could actually be a year like 1993 when the young Bombers took the flag. If Port win today they are a massive chance. Despite rebuilding, they still have a number of premiership players in their side. If the Roos win though then Geelong's home easily.
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Geelong have a plethora of stars but not too many superstars apart from GAblett.
Essendon 00 had at least 2 superstars in Lloyd and Hird.
Essendon 00 had at least 2 superstars in Lloyd and Hird.
This is a bit of silly thread, personally when its all said and done and we look back in a couple of years time I hope that Geelong never gets compared to either of these two teams.
Both were one year wonders who had an unbelievable run with injuries and more imporantly had all their players hit the best form in the same year. Their were nothing terribly exceptional about them, just good teams which had an awful lot of luck. Brisbane of 2001-04, the West Australian state team of 1991-1994, North Melbourne of the mid 90's and Hawthorn of the 80's were the great teams of the past 20 years, neither of these two. I would probably even rate Adelaide of the late 90's and Geelong of 89 as better teams.
As for which was the better of the two I would probably say Carlton 95 as they atleast had some decent teams to play, West Coast, North Melbourne and Geelong. 2000 was a very average year of football, North Melbournes run had ended and Brisbanes had yet to begin. Melbourne made the grand final for crying out loud and complete hacks such as Wallis, Heffernan, Caracela and Blumfield were lauded as stars and look how the latter three went after that.
Both were one year wonders who had an unbelievable run with injuries and more imporantly had all their players hit the best form in the same year. Their were nothing terribly exceptional about them, just good teams which had an awful lot of luck. Brisbane of 2001-04, the West Australian state team of 1991-1994, North Melbourne of the mid 90's and Hawthorn of the 80's were the great teams of the past 20 years, neither of these two. I would probably even rate Adelaide of the late 90's and Geelong of 89 as better teams.
As for which was the better of the two I would probably say Carlton 95 as they atleast had some decent teams to play, West Coast, North Melbourne and Geelong. 2000 was a very average year of football, North Melbournes run had ended and Brisbanes had yet to begin. Melbourne made the grand final for crying out loud and complete hacks such as Wallis, Heffernan, Caracela and Blumfield were lauded as stars and look how the latter three went after that.
The so called critics on here amaze me sometimes. Geelong thrash a team - people say it doesn't count because they didn't experience Finals pressure. So when they go into a game and experience all that for four quarters and lead most of the night, they are then accused of not being that good, they should have thrashed Collingwood, etc etc.
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Both these sides would slaughter Geelong 07.
So would Brisbane 01,02,03 and North 98.
Hell, WCE 07's full side would beat Geelong 07 also. I think we are forgetting that amongst all the hype.
How did Carlton go back in 95? I was only 2, so I have no idea how they went.
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