Robertio
Spotswood Guinness Bar manager
If you read my post again i did say we finished 5th then won two finals and peaked at 3rd so is that all you got?
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If you're saying 'Carlton finished 3rd', I'm assuming you're suggesting they 'finished 3rd on the AFL ladder', in which case you'll have some evidence to support that statement?If you read my post again i did say we finished 5th then won two finals and peaked at 3rd so is that all you got?
Read my post idiot, i said we finished 5th then won two finals to peak at 3rd and tell me where does a loser of a prelim finish?If you're saying 'Carlton finished 3rd', I'm assuming you're suggesting they 'finished 3rd on the AFL ladder', in which case you'll have some evidence to support that statement?
I've looked everywhere, and can only find the ladder I shared in my previous post...
In Carlton's case in 2023, 5th. As per every version of the 2023 ladder available.Read my post idiot, i said we finished 5th then won two finals to peak at 3rd and tell me where does a loser of a prelim finish?
Answer the question, where does the loser of a prelim finish?In Carlton's case in 2023, 5th. As per every version of the 2023 ladder available.
Unless you can prove otherwise.
Peak at 3rdRead my post idiot, i said we finished 5th then won two finals to peak at 3rd and tell me where does a loser of a prelim finish?
The loser of a PF, is a PF loser.Answer the question, where does the loser of a prelim finish?
Why did we get pick 16 in the draft then?The loser of a PF, is a PF loser.
Bulldogs are the only team to win a premiership from 7th.
You dont change ladder position after finals.
Finals are solely about determing who the premier and runner up is...everyone else is simple a beaten finalist.
Who gives a shit?Why did we get pick 16 in the draft then?
Rehashing old arguments here bud. They won't change. Only the draft order changes during finals. Apparently if you finish 3rd on the ladder after the final home and away game, then you can't elevate as a team to finish 1st !! It's just not logicalWhy did we get pick 16 in the draft then?
Where did Collingwood finish in 2018 ?In Carlton's case in 2023, 5th. As per every version of the 2023 ladder available.
Unless you can prove otherwise.
It's based on the ladder mate and you know it, the bottom team gets the first pick and so on.Who gives a shit?
Draft order aint the ladder.
'Better' is relatively clear, though it does appear it needs to be spelt out in small, simple words to appease the lowest common denominator that is the Carlton supporter base...
The ladder is the ladder, it aint hard.It's based on the ladder mate and you know it, the bottom team gets the first pick and so on.
It really should be pretty simple to follow.Let me check....
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3rd. Collingwood finished 3rd in 2018, then won through to the Grand Final, to be defeated by West Coast.
So, runners up , or 3rd ?Let me check....
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3rd. Collingwood finished 3rd in 2018, then won through to the Grand Final, to be defeated by West Coast.
Give them a break.The ladder is the ladder, it aint hard.
The draft order and methodology to determine it changes. Sure it is often based on the ladder, but they change it frequently, and it isnt a new ladder.
What happens when we follow the yanks and use a lottery system. And the draft order is based on ping pong balls coming out?
Finish 13th, but luck out and get the 1st pick in draft so now you also get the wooden spoon?
Carlton finished 5th in 2023, Collingwood finished 1st...both qualifying for finals, Collingwood as the higher ranked team.
Collingwood went on to make the GF and win the premiership, Carlton didnt make the GF.
It really aint hard.
Teams that finish top4 play in qualifying finals in week1 of finals, Carlton weren't a top4 team in 2023.
And thus why people are happy to entertain their 2023 belief that the ladder isn't real judge of who the better team was.Give them a break.
This finals system thing is very new for them. It will take them some time to get their heads around it...
So again , saints and bombers better than the pies for 2024 . RighteoAnd thus why people are happy to entertain their 2023 belief that the ladder isn't real judge of who the better team was.
Need to focus on HTH results, which is why some Bagger fans would say they were "better" than Melbourne in 2023, despite Melbourne winning more games and finishing above them on the ladder.
Melbourne a top 4 team in 2023 after losing all finals games for the second year in a row ? LolThe ladder is the ladder, it aint hard.
The draft order and methodology to determine it changes. Sure it is often based on the ladder, but they change it frequently, and it isnt a new ladder.
What happens when we follow the yanks and use a lottery system. And the draft order is based on ping pong balls coming out?
Finish 13th, but luck out and get the 1st pick in draft so now you also get the wooden spoon?
Carlton finished 5th in 2023, Collingwood finished 1st...both qualifying for finals, Collingwood as the higher ranked team.
Collingwood went on to make the GF and win the premiership, Carlton didnt make the GF.
It really aint hard.
Teams that finish top4 play in qualifying finals in week1 of finals, Carlton weren't a top4 team in 2023.
Pies played Essendon twice and both times couldn't beat em.So again , saints and bombers better than the pies for 2024 . Righteo
Saints ?Pies played Essendon twice and both times couldn't beat em.
If we were better than Essendon we would have won those games and be gearing up for another finals attack.
But we weren't better than Essendon in 2024.