Changes/discussion v Carlton round 8

[dlanod]

Reminder: still looking for preview writers for week 11-13 and later in the year!

 

[Squizz89]

Should be a good test on their patch next week.

The two old men are likely to miss and who knows for how long.

I’d like to see Madden come in and have a run as I like the pace he would bring with McKenna but Joyce probably gets the nod given Carlton’s taller forward line.

Zorko’s pressure is hard to replace. I noticed Noah played in the guts when he came on so maybe he comes in and plays that pressure role and Lyons back to the sub?

So I could see it, IN: Joyce & Answerth (Lyons sub). OUT: Rich & Zorko.

 

[M Malice]

Outs- Dayne Zorko

15

Dayne Zorko

Age

35

Ht

175cm

Wt

77kg

Pos.

M/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

21.4

5star

K

13.2

5star

HB

8.2

5star

M

3.6

4star

T

6.0

5star

CL

3.6

5star

D

14.0

3star

K

9.0

4star

HB

5.0

3star

M

2.0

2star

T

5.0

5star

CL

2.0

4star

D

16.4

4star

K

9.8

4star

HB

6.6

4star

M

5.2

5star

T

6.6

5star

CL

1.2

4star

(inj), Daniel Rich

10

Daniel Rich

Age

34

Ht

183cm

Wt

95kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

19.7

5star

K

12.6

5star

HB

7.0

4star

M

3.4

3star

T

3.2

5star

MG

430.3

5star

D

14.9

4star

K

13.1

5star

HB

1.8

1star

M

3.8

4star

T

1.0

2star

MG

384.3

5star

D

16.2

4star

K

10.4

4star

HB

5.8

4star

M

2.6

3star

T

5.2

5star

(inj), Ryan Lester

35

Ryan Lester

Age

32

Ht

192cm

Wt

84kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

14.9

4star

K

7.9

3star

HB

7.0

4star

M

3.9

4star

T

2.7

4star

MG

170.4

3star

D

10.3

3star

K

5.8

2star

HB

4.5

3star

M

2.7

3star

T

1.5

2star

MG

140.7

3star

D

12.6

4star

K

6.8

3star

HB

5.8

4star

M

3.8

4star

T

0.6

3star

(omit).

Ins- Darragh Joyce

41

Darragh Joyce

Age

27

Ht

195cm

Wt

96kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

11.4

3star

K

6.8

3star

HB

4.6

3star

M

1.8

2star

T

1.4

3star

MG

207.6

3star

No current season stats available

D

11.4

3star

K

6.8

3star

HB

4.6

4star

M

1.8

2star

T

1.4

4star

MG

207.6

4star

, James Madden, Jaxon Prior.

 

[tate13]

In: D. Robbo, Answerth

Out: Rich, Zorko.

Question mark on how Linc pulls up. He’ll be sore.

 

[Nathan Barley]

I'd replace Rich with Ah Chee or Madden. Ah Chee IMO is our best small back not in the seniors. Alternatively Madden can add some speed

Zorko I'd replace with Dev or Ah Chee. Dev the closest thing we have as a like for like or alternatively Ah Chee can play wing and Berry can go on ball

 

[HereIGoAgain]

It was when Rich went down last year that Coleman really came into his own. Like McCluggage, Coleman looks a bit lost and has a lack of urgency out there at times so with the extra responsibility coming his way, this will be his chance to get back to the form he showed last year.

 

[mattsmob]

Outs- Dayne Zorko (inj), Daniel Rich (inj), Ryan Lester (omit).

Ins- Darragh Joyce, James Madden, Jaxon Prior.

Lohmann rather than Madden for me, have Prior play back and give Zorko's mid time to Bailey, Hugh and Rayner.

 

[M Malice]

Lohmann rather than Madden for me, have Prior play back and give Zorko's mid time to Bailey, Hugh and Rayner.

I do like Lohmann but he hasn't shown enough consistently at reserves level this season, others in front of him at the moment IMO.

 

[Mayestro]

Prior for Rich. Prior is ok defensively and provides a bit more run than Rich, and I would’ve thought given the run of games he’s had up to now would be next in line.

Dev for Zorko as a mid forward that is defensive.

It will be interesting to see if Lester holds his spot and so is preferred over Joyce, or if Joyce was being rested.

 

[Nathan Barley]

Carlton do have a slower midfield so Lyons might be an option

 

[mattsmob]

I do like Lohmann but he hasn't shown enough consistently at reserves level this season, others in front of him at the moment IMO.

In other cases I'd agree but not Madden's imo, the idea of Madden is a lot more than what he provides currently. I'm probably a little too biased towards Lohmann as I think he will be a gun and has been a little better in the last couple games. Dev is probably a better like for like positionally and I'd like to see him get his chance with a few CBA's as well so maybe just a straight swap with Zorko.

 

[martinson]

Haven't seen Ah Chee mentioned all that often. He's next choice for small back or forward imo.

 

[lionsrules]

Robertson, Prior & Fort

Out
Rich, Zorko, Gunston

 

[mattsmob]

Haven't seen Ah Chee mentioned all that often. He's next choice for small back or forward imo.

I thought Prior played pretty well when he filled in across half back, don't think there's much between them defensively and Prior adds a bit more going forward imo. Age, potential and size probably in his favor as well.

 

[M Malice]

Haven't seen Ah Chee mentioned all that often. He's next choice for small back or forward imo.

Depends what the criteria for selection is... either demonstrated ability previously at senior level or is it form in the reserves, Ah Chee has been unimpressive in the reserves.

I am not totally against Ah Chee coming in though.

 

[martinson]

I thought Prior played pretty well when he filled in across half back, don't think there's much between them defensively and Prior adds a bit more going forward imo. Age, potential and size probably in his favor as well.

Ah Chee's played better than Prior at Senior level just about every time imo. In fact I think he's a lot better all round.

I also think Fort's better than Gunston on present form

We all know what Gunston can do , we keep hearing the players and coach talk him up. Like to see him do it.

 

[M Malice]

Just realised this is a Friday night stand alone game, will be a great spectacle and atmosphere, we should be well and truly up for this game, similar to the Demons and Magpies games.

 

[twhowler]

P

Ah Chee's played better than Prior at Senior level just about every time imo. In fact I think he's a lot better all round.

I also think Fort's better than Gunston on present form

We all know what Gunston can do , we keep hearing the players and coach talk him up. Like to see him do it.

Prior was excellent last time as Rich’s replacement.

Ah Chee can play Zorko’s forward minutes plus wing - Berry goes in to the middle. Perfect week for him to do so v Carlton’s bigger midfield

 

[luthor]

No-one's mentioned the elephant in the room.

Gunston.

 

[Nathan Barley]

No-one's mentioned the elephant in the room.

Gunston.

Wish he was as quick as an Elephant

 

[luthor]

Wish he was as quick as an Elephant

Elephants of the world are feeling highly insulted

 

[martinson]

Elephants of the world are feeling highly insulted

They're going to keep playing him whatever. And ultimately he'll have a good game or two. Inevitable. You would think.

 

[3KZ is Football]

OUT: Rich (inj), Zorko (inj), Gunston and Wilmot.
IN: Ah Chee, Robertson, Fort and Lyons

 

[McIvor]

Robertson, Prior & Fort

Out
Rich, Zorko, Gunston

That's what I'd do to although wouldn't be against Cal Ah Chee getting a game. Gunston has been more average than I thought, I know hes got 6 goal but when he doesnt have the ball, he offers nothing.

I doubt I'll be confident against Blues after there big win. They'll be full of confidence thanks to WCE giving them a training run, doubt we can stop Curnow and there quick defence of Saad and Doc is concerning.

 

[McIvor]

Just realised this is a Friday night stand alone game, will be a great spectacle and atmosphere, we should be well and truly up for this game, similar to the Demons and Magpies games.

The stand alone games on Thurs or Fri nights still give me nightmares - they shouldnt seeing as we beat Dees and Pies, but they were both at home. I guess aside from that away final win against Dees last year, I am struggling recalling who we beat away on the centre stage?