Changes for Perth

[krusden]

That line of thinking is where I have the issue. Why not get someone to learn to face the best bowlers around. If Hussey is going to retire, we have a zillion middle order batsmen to come in. We don't have that many openers, lets back the one guy who averages 54 in test cricket. Sure he aint in form, but neither are any other openers. Hughes won't be stuffed if he fails.

for his sake, i hope not.

for his sake, i hope he has fixed the issues he had in england last time.

 

[Badesumofu]

Yeah, ideally Smith would be a batsman who bowls a bit, and maybe will become a true all-rounder in a few years. It takes a long time to master wrist spin.

However, he did just take 8 wickets in a Shield match. He is an attacking bowler who can take wickets. If the choices are Smith plus four quicks, or Smith plus Beer and three quicks, then Smith is the frontline spinner. Beer is not going to come in and take a bag, it just won't happen. To me, it looks almost certain that they intend to play 4 quicks, and I think they have it right. Hilfenhaus should be an auto-selection at Perth, and I'd take Johnson and Siddle ahead of Beer - at least there is some chance that one or both of those two will do something awesome at some point. If they don't we still have Hilfenhaus and Harris, who are both reliable, Watson is bowling well, and Smith should take wickets. So one way or another 4 specialist quicks, plus two alrounders who have wicket-taking ability should allow us to take wickets! We now have 7 top order batsman who are all capable of making runs - at least there is no one that you can actually rely on to fail.

 

[Jascave]

In all the years I've been following Test cricket, I can never recall seeing Australian Test cricket at such a low ebb, not since the mid 1980s. I think it's time Cricket Australia finally-and I mean finally-clear out the dead wood that is blocking up Australia's cricket resources and start all over again, both on and off the field and have the changes in place by the time the next Ashes series begins, in England in 2013. The first priority is to get a new chairman of selectors, and Greg Chappell is the man for the job. A new selection panel should be appointed and my nominees would be Steve Waugh, Mark Taylor, Rod Marsh. A new coach would also be appointed as well, with the likely nominee being either Ric Charlesworth or Steve Rixon. If those changes aren't made, it'll be quite a while before Australia reaches the pinnacle of world cricket again.

 

[The 747]

Re: Putting all our eggs in the Smith basket?

i think Dougy was better than Siddle, he at least got a wicket, and should have had 2 early on if Huss didn't drop that sitter. But he wasn't that much better, both were fairly ordinary.

Not sure if I watched the same game as you. I saw Dougeh embarassing himself bowling mid 120's and having KP run down the wicket to him. Siddle was junk but Dougeh was hopeless.

 

[The 747]

Re: Putting all our eggs in the Smith basket?

Ummm how about if they speak the truth. "Harris and Watson were the pick of our bowlers. Siddle would want to respond in Perth after a disappointing match".

Facts.

This post is nonsensical. You asked how Siddle could be the pick of the bowlers and I corrected you on what was actually said. And why.

Facts.

 

[krusden]

Re: Putting all our eggs in the Smith basket?

Not sure if I watched the same game as you. I saw Dougeh embarassing himself bowling mid 120's and having KP run down the wicket to him. Siddle was junk but Dougeh was hopeless.

this.

dougeh was not match fit and suffered accordingly.

 

[Drummond]

Re: Putting all our eggs in the Smith basket?

This post is nonsensical. You asked how Siddle could be the pick of the bowlers and I corrected you on what was actually said. And why.

Facts.

SIDDLE WAS TRASH. HE WASN'T THE PICK OF THE BOWLERS.

Ranking for bowlers:

1. Harris
2. Watson
3. No one, all rubbish.

You're an idiot mate, seriously, Siddle bowled pies on days 2 and 3, and he's being lauded as being the pick of the bowlers. FACTS!!!!!!!!!!!!

Why the moronic selectors felt the need to give Siddle any props after his awful 0/120 off 30 is beyond me, but obviously you and the selectors have something in common.

 

[dumb]

Perhaps if Shaun Marsh was opening that century would mean something.



So why not pick the younger spinner that they picked in the Australia A game?

maybe they should. not averse to SOK getting a gig either, think i would have preferred SOK or hauritz.
will wait and see how this selection works out, though i don't hold much hope.

 

[Jascave]

FYI, Michael Beer took 3/108 and 2/99 in the tour match against England, for total match figures of 5/207 at the WACA ground in Perth.

 

[mattymac]

Surely with this squad we'll be playing the 4 quicks plus Smith.

when hilditch said he will enjoy bowling against the english on his home ground it sounded like he'll be playing

EDIT: beer, that is...

 

[Goldencats]

Re: Putting all our eggs in the Smith basket?

The Poms must be laughing at our selections

How on earth can Hughes be selected for starters? He's averaging a tick over 20 this season in shield and most importantly, the current match has yielded scores of 4 and 0

And Beer? You are kidding me right? The guy has had a good start to the season in the Shield but what's he done or proved prior? He took wickets against the Poms in the tour game but he went for 4 and 6 RPO in the 1st and 2nd innings respectively

Shame on the selectors

 

[Tyberious Funk]

Beer is obviously a left field selection. But at least we can all agree that picking Johnson again is an inspired decision. After getting dropped, he's gone back to Shield cricket, corrected the problems with his action and taken a bag of wickets. He'll be brimming with confidence and ready to take a bag.

And Phil Hughes has been in absolutely cracking form for NSW. Really banging down the door. So glad to see him back in the squad too.

 

[The 747]

Re: Putting all our eggs in the Smith basket?

SIDDLE WAS TRASH. HE WASN'T THE PICK OF THE BOWLERS.

Ranking for bowlers:

1. Harris
2. Watson
3. No one, all rubbish.

You're an idiot mate, seriously, Siddle bowled pies on days 2 and 3, and he's being lauded as being the pick of the bowlers. FACTS!!!!!!!!!!!!

Why the moronic selectors felt the need to give Siddle any props after his awful 0/120 off 30 is beyond me, but obviously you and the selectors have something in common.

Thanks for the abuse mate. Pretty clear who is the idiot here.

You asked a (factually wrong) question and I answered it. And you continue to get your FACTS wrong.

Siddle was not "lauded as the pick of the bowlers", it was Harris and Siddle who were picked out as being the pick of our bowlers. You keep trying to make things up to suit some agenda ie that the selectors thought Siddle was our best bowler or some rubbish but it is not fooling anyone.

I never said Siddle bowled well, he certainly didn't. But he was better than an unfit Bollinger.

Now stop wasting everyone's time with your rant.

 

[dumb]

what would be a minimum amount of wickets beer needs so that the public can hype the shit out of him? 4 like the doherty ODI?

 

[Drummond]

Re: Putting all our eggs in the Smith basket?

Thanks for the abuse mate. Pretty clear who is the idiot here.

You asked a (factually wrong) question and I answered it. And you continue to get your FACTS wrong.

Siddle was not "lauded as the pick of the bowlers", it was Harris and Siddle who were picked out as being the pick of our bowlers. You keep trying to make things up to suit some agenda ie that the selectors thought Siddle was our best bowler or some rubbish but it is not fooling anyone.

I never said Siddle bowled well, he certainly didn't. But he was better than an unfit Bollinger.

Now stop wasting everyone's time with your rant.

Good call mate.

So the need to pump up Siddle's performance in Adelaide was purely to put down Bollinger and Doherty. My point, is you ask why the selectors even felt the need to praise Siddle after he was wicketless and went at over 4 RPO. He was rubbish, FACT. So the need to praise him is absolutely not needed. I guess though that not going at 5 RPO is a good result for a current Australian bowler, so yeah, go ahead Trev, keep pumping him up.

 

[Ron]

The headlines have started, this is from the ABC

Selectors tap Beer to end Ashes dry spell

 

[mattymac]

siddle's hat trick will be the most expensive hat trick in australian cricket history

ace flavour saver he's got cranking though

 

[Flawed Genius]

The headlines have started, this is from the ABC

Selectors tap Beer to end Ashes dry spell

Great start

 

[Cleavy]

The headlines have started, this is from the ABC

Selectors tap Beer to end Ashes dry spell

Beer to quench Aussies' thirst for talent

 

[DaVe86]

OK, taking a look at the selection and we are a batsman short and have too many bowlers.

If Steve Smith was selected, then it was as a bowler...not as a replacement for North. Smith just came off an 8 wicket game, but he scored no runs.

This still means the Aussies have a terrible tale. Johnson hasn't been scoring runs, and the rest can't hold a bat.


Now I know that run-scoring is up to the top order...but at least having a few tale-enders that can protect their wicket is essential these-days. I would've loved to have had Hauritz or Steve Smith in Adelaide because they could've at least held their wickets and perhaps played out a draw.


At the moment, you only need 6 wickets against Australia, because then the next 4 fall.




Like I said, if Smith is in the side, it is to be there as a bowler who can bat...not as a batter who can bowl. We already have an all-rounder in Watson.


If the Aussies don't back his bowling abilities, then it would've been better to select Hauritz to bowl defensively and at least he will score 20 runs.

Then, I would've brought in David Hussey or Cam White in replace of North. Both can also bowl some spin and are in better batting form.


And Marsh was a must. Hughes is in terrible form and has a poor record against the taller English bowlers. Tremlett and Finn will worry him.

I also think Clarke is batting too high. His best form has been as a number 5.



My team:

Marsh
Watson
Ponting
David Hussey
Clarke
Michael Hussey
Steve Smith
Brad Haddin
Mitchell Johnson
Hilfenhaus
Harris



I'd prefer Bollinger, but I think Johnson gets 1 last crack at it on his home ground. Siddle hasn't bowled well apart from the first innings at the Gabba.

My line-up is a much better batting line-up...bats right down to number 9. Still has 4 pace bowlers, a spinner and a part-timer.


Otherwise, dont worry about Smith, go with the 4 pace-bowlers and use David Hussey defensively with Michael Clarke.

 

[dumb]

aussies to solve ashes woes with beer

aussies cox calls for beer

 

[Cousin Jed]

Everyone calm down please.

 

[NAUGHT5]

The Day 5 heading will be.. The worst Beer since Tooheys Red

 

[Damon_3388]

Mick Hill just made his maiden First Class century against the England XI in the tour match! GET HIM IN THE TEST TEAM!*





*One good tour match was enough for Michael Beer, wasn't it?

 

[DaVe86]

Yeah, ideally Smith would be a batsman who bowls a bit, and maybe will become a true all-rounder in a few years. It takes a long time to master wrist spin.

However, he did just take 8 wickets in a Shield match. He is an attacking bowler who can take wickets. If the choices are Smith plus four quicks, or Smith plus Beer and three quicks, then Smith is the frontline spinner. Beer is not going to come in and take a bag, it just won't happen. To me, it looks almost certain that they intend to play 4 quicks, and I think they have it right. Hilfenhaus should be an auto-selection at Perth, and I'd take Johnson and Siddle ahead of Beer - at least there is some chance that one or both of those two will do something awesome at some point. If they don't we still have Hilfenhaus and Harris, who are both reliable, Watson is bowling well, and Smith should take wickets. So one way or another 4 specialist quicks, plus two alrounders who have wicket-taking ability should allow us to take wickets! We now have 7 top order batsman who are all capable of making runs - at least there is no one that you can actually rely on to fail.

Good quality post and I think this is how the Aussies will go.

I still think its a batsman short however. I wouldn't be relying on Smith to score a tonne but he may take a wicket or so.


Really, Shane Watson can be counted as the 4th quick...so I don't see the need to bring in another quick...meaning we have 6 bowlers. I think go with Hilfenhaus and drop Siddle. Harris is better at this stage so holds his spot. I don't think we need 5 quicks and a spinner.

I'd prefer to sure up the batting. Get David Hussey or White in there along with Steve Smith. Ensure we bat down to number 9 and Hussey can also part-time spin, as can White.