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Of all the media frothing about Rioli, not one had mentioned that he broke any rules, they're all concerned with "the potential to cause injury". Well tough sh*t, unless he breaks a rule then he hasn't done anything wrong, and until the rules change (which I have no doubt they will) you can continue to bump within the rules. All the whineging is just about their golden (ginger) boy Rowell getting sh*t mixed. Get the fu** over it.

Sssshhhhhhh! Ixnay on the otentialpay to uryinjay. If no one mentions it the AFL just might forget it exists again. Only to be bought out at a bullshit time affecting another MRP decision later in the year.
 
I think that’s why discussion has been about potential to cause injury as they changed the rule this year to make that a factor

Correct - but you still have to break the rules. So you hit a guy on the top of the head and he gets up and plays on with a free kick - then you can be reprimanded on the potential to cause injury. But if you execute a legitimate shirt-front without any head contact then there's no case to answer.
 

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Of all the media frothing about Rioli, not one had mentioned that he broke any rules, they're all concerned with "the potential to cause injury". Well tough sh*t, unless he breaks a rule then he hasn't done anything wrong, and until the rules change (which I have no doubt they will) you can continue to bump within the rules. All the whineging is just about their golden (ginger) boy Rowell getting sh*t mixed. Get the fu** over it.
When Nic was suspended for his legal tackle didn't they sort have change the rule during the trial ? They just make sh*t up. Listening to the outrage in the East, I think he will get at least a week.
 
When Nic was suspended for his legal tackle didn't they sort have change the rule during the trial ? They just make sh*t up. Listening to the outrage in the East, I think he will get at least a week.

Indeed - the old "weight differential calculation duty of care" rule.
 
I’ve seen Williams listed as out and probably deserves it but we need to persevere and pump games and experience into him till he finds his confidence at this level ..


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Whilst we need to get games into young players, they have to at least show something when they play. They can’t just be given games. Williams needs to go back to WAFL (which hasnt started yet unfortunately) and show something. At the moment, he is offering little and showing less…

A shame as I had high hopes. But agree with other posters, how does a big lump of a lad go to a stick in a couple of WC pre-seasons. Boggles the mind.
 
It's a bit chicken or the egg though.

No idea if he's got any ruck talent at all, but not sure his 3 hit outs should be used as evidence either way as he's basically played zero ruck.

I think it would be a valid experiment, but maybe they've already tried at training i guess.

At least HEdwards is good at defending.

Williams at this stage is ineffective in the ruck and ineffective forward.
 
We are wasting Rotham as a player. He came to the club as an attacking runner with good footskills, and now he's a timid 3rd tall (4th tall when Edwards plays) who makes a lot of very simple mistakes by foot. I struggle to see what his defined role is, and to me it looks like his confidence down as a result.

It's a shame the WAFL hasn't started yet as I'd like to see him sent back to the twos to build some confidence and to go back to playing his natural attacking game in a less stressful environment. I really like him as a player, but he's not offering much at the moment ( I get it's round 1, but this applies to last year as well).

We are wasting 80% of the players we have drafted over the last 5 years with complete lack of development or improvement. This learning systems BS is the culprit
 
Oh for **** sake that’s bullshit.

That dumb campaigner Rowell runs back with the flight of the ball and a player going for a mark gets pinged for doing nothing wrong. AFL can go and get ****ed. Stupid dawgs!

If it was Selwood or Dangerfield it would have been fap fap courage, true leaders, courage led to a goal, fap fap.

Go **** yourselves you useless campaigners!
 

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Whilst we need to get games into young players, they have to at least show something when they play. They can’t just be given games. Williams needs to go back to WAFL (which hasnt started yet unfortunately) and show something. At the moment, he is offering little and showing less…

A shame as I had high hopes. But agree with other posters, how does a big lump of a lad go to a stick in a couple of WC pre-seasons. Boggles the mind.

It`s only rd1 and he can build on this game and be given some responsibility and backing by the MC ..This was only his 9th game so I would keep him in the team and continue to fast track him working alongside Nic ..
 
No point challenging it. The golden boy Rowell even with no injury is a protected species. Bit like a roundhouse whack to the ribs was a 1 week holiday a couple of years ago now it's a fine. It maybe it's because it's an Essendon ruckman in Sam Draper. Noted that Ratugolea went off and Rowell doesn't but both are medium impact?

 
It`s only rd1 and he can build on this game and be given some responsibility and backing by the MC ..This was only his 9th game so I would keep him in the team and continue to fast track him working alongside Nic ..
Part of me agrees with you as I like to give young guys a fair run at it. But still not convinced at all by him and I really had high hopes. Whilst he is young and has time, he will need to show something soon.

But the problem is compounded by NN’s low game time. We are playing a man down at times and are top heavy. Will be interested to see what Strnadica has to offer in the same role when he is fit as he would seem a better ruck and forward at this stage (albeit at the lower level).
 
Listened to Simmo, he was asked 6 names then went on said oh it could be a couple more.
Sunday game, me thinks a couple late fitness tests with the likes of Yeo & Duggan i think who were listed at Round 2 or 3.
Rioli downgraded to low impact(fine) or thrown out no head contact.

In's
Kelly
Shuey
Yeo
Duggan
Witherden
Darling
Ryan


Out's the ones you dont see below.
Less talls, more run out of defence.

Hurn Barrass Rotham
Witherden McGov Duggan
Naish Yeo Gaff
Petch Darling Rioli
Ryan Kennedy SPS

NN Shuey Kelly

Int
Foley, Jones, Redden, Williams

Won't be long before Strnadica comes in, instead of Williams.

I think this is a possible best 22.
We can revert back to Sheed, but i like what Naish brings on a wing.
We need a line breaking half back
Chesser is our man there.

Cripps may struggle to come back with Rioli, SPS, a bulked up Petch, & Naish in the fold.
 
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Still remember Viney getting away with this exact thing. A known thug. Hurn and Viney went in hard but fair earlier and Viney was hurt, this was Viney getting back.

Viney not even charged. Talk about looking after some and not others.

Listen to Slobo reaching for excuses.
 
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