Strategy Changes & Pre-match Discussion - GRAND FINAL vs. Brisbane MCG, 2:30pm Sat 30/09

[Kappa]

Any news on why Ash Johnson seems to have fallen so hard out of favour?

Seems the obvious McStay replacement but doesn't seem to be getting a mention. Was a key player when we were at our best this year.

Because most of his games at AFL level he is utterly terrible with no second efforts.

Ash Johnson in a grand final is a scary thought, for us.

 

[TheGreatGrundy]

Frampton can play fwd , back and Ruck he’s the best versatility we have, and prefect in these circumstances.

Not sure about the 'perfect' bit. He may be a Jack of all trades but he is also definitely a master of none of them.

 

[Mollythedolly]

They did. They were okay, nothing too noteworthy.
Reef was dominant though

Good to hear Reef is back and playing. Certainly comes into the McStay replacement options you’d think with his height and pace.

 

[TheGreatGrundy]

Any news on why Ash Johnson seems to have fallen so hard out of favour?

Seems the obvious McStay replacement but doesn't seem to be getting a mention. Was a key player when we were at our best this year.

Are you not empowered with vision? The reason why Johnson is not being mentioned as a possible replacement has been stated numerous times.

 

[Mollythedolly]

If we're bringing in a tall, Kreuger for me.
Far more of an aerial competitor and leaves nothing out there.

I’d certainly prefer him over Frampton if we’re looking at maintaining our forward structure, and our defensive lineup. Super competitive and really quick for his size.

 

[No SPIN]

Not sure about the 'perfect' bit. He may be a Jack of all trades but he is also definitely a master of none of them.

Perfect by Coll’s definition ie no one else can do all 3 roles.

 

[pablo disco bar]

Krueger is the perfect curve ball replacement

If Brisbane win Harris Andrews

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is unbelievable

Out mcstay in Krueger

If Adams fit in for Lipinski

 

[Mollythedolly]

Kreuger isn't ready for a Grand Final. I'd be more inclined to consider Frampton and swing Howe forward.

Frampton is more ready than Kreuger? Based on what?

 

[swoop42]

If the Lions get up more run at ground level on a warm Brisbane like day will be of more benefit than choosing a not quite right tall IMO.

Replace a tall forward in McStay with a small forward in Ginnivan.

Adams or Noble for the slow Lipinski.

Cameron and Cox to spend more time deep forward and less time on the pine.

 

[magpies42]

Mcstay big loss! Contested marking in the forward 50 is critical

 

[Sweeetleftfoot]

Driving back from Gold Coast (watched rocky horror was awesome) pulled in to get petrol at the local ampol. Bloke was listening to the footy I said go the lions.

He smiled and said they were getting flogged now winning, I said doesn’t matter I’m a Collingwood fan and I hate Carlton.

He lifted his shirt and had a Collingwood tattoo on his arm, we fist bumped.

We got into a story about his dad being being 90 years and being a member for 55 plus.
He passed 2 years ago from cancer, but said Brodie Grundy

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Brodie Grundy

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sent him a video message for his birthday but unfortunately his father couldn’t see it before he passed.

I love what sport does and how it connects people.

 

[Ingy]

If the Lions get up more run at ground level on a warm Brisbane like day will be of more benefit than choosing a not quite right tall IMO.

Replace a tall forward in McStay with a small forward in Ginnivan.

Adams or Noble for the slow Lipinski.

Cameron and Cox to spend more time deep forward and less time on the pine.

Sorry, disagree.

Cannot allow either potential opponent to own the sky.

A shorter/faster sub to bring off a tall and add run > yes.

Starting with a deficiency of talls which plays into one of their key strengths > no.

 

[Mick F]

Good to hear Reef is back and playing. Certainly comes into the McStay replacement options you’d think with his height and pace.

Might be the making of him. We need a few of the young fellas to come on.

 

[Apex36]

Because most of his games at AFL level he is utterly terrible with no second efforts.

Ash Johnson in a grand final is a scary thought, for us.

Cool story, but if he wasn’t injured he’d be playing next week.

 

[swoop42]

Sorry, disagree.

Cannot allow either potential opponent to own the sky.

A shorter/faster sub to bring off a tall and add run > yes.

Starting with a deficiency of talls which plays into one of their key strengths > no.

Brisbane owning the ground is what I worry about.

On the spread and out the back is how they always beat us.

 

[Ingy]

Brisbane owning the ground is what I worry about.

On the spread and out the back is how they always beat us.

I hear you but I don't see that happening on the MCG and also that's partly a by-product of the sky battle. We panic about the contested mark > every Kent goes up for the ball > Charlie Cameron floats out the back for a cheapie. If we have faith in our talls to compete then Bruzzy/IQ/Markov stay down

 

[anshell]

Frampton has always come into the side this year whenever we’ve had a tall out,whether it’s a ruckman,key forward or key back.So based on that,I’d say he’s almost certain to come into the side for the Grand Final.It’s just a question of where we play him.

I think we should play him as a forward and pinch hitting in the ruck.If he plays in the ruck that will give Cox and Cameron more time to spend on the forward line.

We definitely need another tall in the forward line,as Mihocek clearly can not carry the forward line on his own.We’ve seen that happen many times over the years,and was the reason why we recruited Mcstay this year.

 

[Albert Parker]

Because most of his games at AFL level he is utterly terrible with no second efforts.

Ash Johnson in a grand final is a scary thought, for us.

Kappa, failing to mention that he has a broken arm and is unavailable as the real reason he isn't being talked about as the obvious replacement for McStay is disingenuous and unhelpful.

 

[Proud New Father of 3]

Are you not empowered with vision? The reason why Johnson is not being mentioned as a possible replacement has been stated numerous times.

Cheers mate enjoy your Saturday night

 

[pablo disco bar]

We playing Brisbane

Been a tough game but no injuries

 

[swoop42]

I hear you but I don't see that happening on the MCG and also that's partly a by-product of the sky battle. We panic about the contested mark > every Kent goes up for the ball > Charlie Cameron floats out the back for a cheapie. If we have faith in our talls to compete then Bruzzy/IQ/Markov stay down

We're not looking to replace a tall from our defence though.

The weather for mine has to be taken into account now if the forecast remains the same as Brisbane will feel at home and we need to be running as hard in the last as the first to stand a chance.

 

[gouki88]

Going to need Hill or McCreery to shut down Coleman's influence

 

[carndapies]

Looking as it will be us vs Brisbane, I would like to see Frampton play forward and play a lockdown aerial role on Harris Andrews

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. We can’t let him chop out all of our high entries into the F50

 

[TradeDraft]

Lions be Favorite for the Grand Final

 

[KinderSmock]

Frampton is more ready than Kreuger? Based on what?

Based on the fact he has seen AFL action relatively recently and doesn't end every contest looking worse for wear.