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Strategy Changes & Pre-match Discussion - GRAND FINAL vs. Brisbane MCG, 2:30pm Sat 30/09
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We need more goals out of our midfielders, when we were dominating we had 10 goal scorers a game. I’d be tempted to not bring in a tall and play Checkers and Cameron/Cox go forward with all the smalls around them. I think we could really use an extra runner in Noble as wel.
Not if we want the option of moving Howe fwd to stop Andrews as he did in the last game.
Freddy can’t play back - that’s why Billy is the safer option.
We definitely need the strategic option of playing Howe forward up our sleeve.
Just from the Pies instagram that that game was Crispy’s 213th consecutive game. That is outrageous! I knew he had a big streak but didn’t realise it was that big.
Not many players even play that many in a career, let alone consecutively!
Not many players even play that many in a career, let alone consecutively!
I get that everyone would rather not change our defensive personnel. But we’ve only scored ~60pts in past two games with McStay kicking two goals in each of them. That won’t be good enough against Brisbane.
We need more firepower to at least replace McStay’s contribution. The best and most proven of the available options is to shift Howe forward. And Frampton has shown himself to be good enough to contain Hipwood. It’s got a better chance of success than anything else I’ve seen proposed today.
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100% They’re a fantastic football team and a well deserved opponent.
My irrational musings have zero factual relevance to how we should be looking at this game.
Just an odd feeling and probably one too many beers post game yesterday.
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We probably can't afford to take Howe out of the backline Spinny. I think that backline has gotta remain unchanged on current form.
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Seems you’re ducking the point - GWS is a more potent scoring team than Brisbane is.
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Our defensive unit is absolutely humming right now and Howe is a key part of that. Moving him forward shouldn’t be a consideration, we’d be robbing Peter to pay Paul, and weakening our defence against the best offensive team in the league is a horrible idea.
In a way we have to count on Mihocek to replace Mcstays contribution
So really we need someone to occupy their 2nd key back to allow him to do so.
I agree that howe is best placed for that, less for his marking, but for his defensive body positioning.
Not sure if its worth it though.
At least frampton and howe can be swapped in game.
McStay is really a big out.
It’s been like this every week since round 1
It’s irrelevant if we go in with a set up not rationally capable of scoring more than them! We. Need. More. Firepower.
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In the season proper when we had the minor premiership all but won and we were, in Moore’s words, playing around with a few things?
Yeah, nah.
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We scored 100 points against them last time we met with a depleted defence. Our forwards are capable of kicking a winning score against them, it’s stopping their scoring that’s the problem.
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Brisbane aren't going to play 3 tall forwards, so moving Howe forward is an ace up our sleeve anyway.
If we play either Frampton or Kreuger up forward and it isn't working and we're getting done - we're unlikely to use this versatility that you speak of, we'll sub out Frampton or Kreuger or whichever tall is struggling and go smaller in defence.
So to me if you are going to bring in either - go with the bloke who has shown more as a forward - it's Kreuger. But I won't be surprised if we don't bring in either and just shift Howe forward.
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I don’t think firepower is the issue. Our conversion against GWS was poor, where it is usually strong.
Their backline is also lesser than the GWS one
So what exactly is your plan to replace the contested marks and goals that McStay has contributed over the past two finals?
All I’m hearing is “we can’t risk messing with our defence” but what about our attack?
If your solution is Cameron spending more time forward then we are stuffed because he has kicked about as many AFL goals this season as Reef McInnes.
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We didn’t win that game though Spinny.
We’ll need both Moore and Howe back to beat them in the big dance, I think.
Hence Freddy coming into the discussion as a straight swap at CHF - he may not be really totally fully ready but we are low on options - our trusted coaches will have to make an informed decision on it. Earning their big bucks
During the season we were just as good offensively as Brisbane, and quite a bit better defensively. They have a strong forward line but didn't score much more than us (50 points over the year). Our offensive bursts have been as good as any team's.
The idea that Brisbane are so much better than us offensively isn't supported by the facts. That's especially the case if you look at Brisbane away from home, though I don't think home ground advantage matters so much in a GF, in a Prelim I'd have been quite confident against the Lions.
Brisbane are very good but have their weaknesses. I think our best beats theirs, my main concern is that we haven't been at our best this finals series in terms of moving the ball. That's not a fatal flaw in finals though, bring the pressure and the defence and you're a good chance. We've been doing that. We go in favourites for mine, but mostly by default as being the better team over the year.
The idea that Brisbane are so much better than us offensively isn't supported by the facts. That's especially the case if you look at Brisbane away from home, though I don't think home ground advantage matters so much in a GF, in a Prelim I'd have been quite confident against the Lions.
Brisbane are very good but have their weaknesses. I think our best beats theirs, my main concern is that we haven't been at our best this finals series in terms of moving the ball. That's not a fatal flaw in finals though, bring the pressure and the defence and you're a good chance. We've been doing that. We go in favourites for mine, but mostly by default as being the better team over the year.
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Freakish accomplishment. Most of them good games too.
He's been one of the most underated players of the last decade.
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