Strategy Changes & Pre-match Discussion - Round 16 vs. Gold Coast, HBS Sat 01/07, 4:35pm

[swoop42]

If we have Cameron and Cox, why do we need a forward ruck? One of those two would have to go.

A tall forward in Johnson goes out and a key defender/2nd ruck takes his place. Cox/Cameron have the potential to spend more time forward with the presence of Frampton.

Being able to deploy Frampton forward, back or in the ruck depending on the game situation appeals to me more than an out of form Johnson and with the return of McStay unlikely I hope we trial it this week.

 

[Forethought]

IN: Ryan Frampton Kreuger

OUT: Markov WHE AJ

You sure you want that slow a team ?

 

[stormskye]

No to Kreuger : Back to 11 touches and 1 goal in the VFL. 4th Game in a row now so 2-3 more before we can trust his body at AFL intensity

Did you watch the vfl?

 

[Bianconeri]

No to Kreuger : Back to 11 touches and 1 goal in the VFL. 4th Game in a row now so 2-3 more before we can trust his body at AFL intensity

Hopefully McStay is ready but someone has to come in for Johnson

 

[Kes1984]

Any chance McStay will be ready? Keen to see him back.

I also think we’re a better side with Frampton. Hated seeing him dropped and think that was a mistake the way Adelaide’s talk forwards were out marking us.

Would like to see him back in.

HH going alright but maybe time to demote him to sub?

In: Frampton, McCreery
Out: Johnson, HH (sub)

 

[Forethought]

Did you watch the vfl?

Only on the TV: Did Kreuger play 6-7 games straight ?
Why Kreuger when Mcstay comes in as I don’t see Fly making to many more changes at Key positions as he’ll look to get set his best team. Outside of Mcstay I only see Frampton as a possibility. Zero sense picking a guy that can’t play AFL intensity without getting injured.

 

[Fat Jesus]

No changes seeing DeGoey, Sidebottom and McStay not ready to play.
Frampton a small possibility depending on the match ups.
Ginni needs a stint in the VFL. As does Krueger.
No chance in hell of WHE, Markov or even Harrison being dropped.

 

[manicpie]

Only on the TV: Did Kreuger play 6-7 games straight ?
Why Kreuger when Mcstay comes in as I don’t see Fly making to many more changes at Key positions as he’ll look to get set his best team. Outside of Mcstay I only see Frampton as a possibility. Zero sense picking a guy that can’t play AFL intensity without getting injured.

McStay won't be back for another 3 weeks

 

[neilk]

Lukosius, Casboult and King are 195cm, 199cm and 202cm respectively. I think we have to bring Frampton in on a horses for courses basis.

 

[Fat Jesus]

Lukosius, Casboult and King are 195cm, 199cm and 202cm respectively. I think we have to bring Frampton in on a horses for courses basis.

Yes perhaps mate.
Depending on who we play and the match ups.
I'm a fan of Frampton.

 

[stormskye]

Lukosius, Casboult and King are 195cm, 199cm and 202cm respectively. I think we have to bring Frampton in on a horses for courses basis.

Even more so without Degoey. At best we might go even in the midfield

 

[Piesinmyeyes]

It's pretty straight forward. Playing in a lower league, Macrae gets less possessions and less clearances than Mitchell gets in the seniors or Adams would get in the seniors if he played full time mid. He's really not close to these guys.

I’m not suggesting he does replace for now and yes I agree is not at their level.
However, soon we are going to need to find another extractor type of player moving forward and he’s groomed as the next in line.
I just think we need at least a game to see if and what he can produce.
Whilst DeGoey is out, I reckon for a week we could rotate the 3 inside.
Got battered in the middle in the 3rd qtr, fresh legs in the middle would have been handy.
If Macrae ain’t the answer, we need to find another extractor. Adams,Mitchell,Pendles gettin on

 

[Harry O]

McStay won't be back for another 3 weeks

Not true

 

[manicpie]

Not true

That's what was originally reported. I hope he is ready because I think we need him

 

[windchimes]

That's what was originally reported. I hope he is ready because I think we need

Not true

He didn’t train at all last week, and prior to that I don’t believe had done any match sim yet.

Given the 6 day and interstate turn-around I suspect it’d be pretty unlikely for him to get up for this one. I could be wrong though.

 

[legendstatus]

Been thinking about this one for a while as our most dangerous interstate trip

Need to seriously sort out centre breaks otherwise their talls will get us

 

[Kappa]

No changes seeing DeGoey, Sidebottom and McStay not ready to play.
Frampton a small possibility depending on the match ups.
Ginni needs a stint in the VFL. As does Krueger.
No chance in hell of WHE, Markov or even Harrison being dropped.

It's strange how much ppl talk up WHE. 11 touches at 50% D/E with some embarrassing defensive efforts and marking efforts. He is most definitely on the cusp of being dropped when we get a few players back.

 

[Bianconeri]

I’m not suggesting he does replace for now and yes I agree is not at their level.
However, soon we are going to need to find another extractor type of player moving forward and he’s groomed as the next in line.
I just think we need at least a game to see if and what he can produce.
Whilst DeGoey is out, I reckon for a week we could rotate the 3 inside.
Got battered in the middle in the 3rd qtr, fresh legs in the middle would have been handy.
If Macrae ain’t the answer, we need to find another extractor. Adams,Mitchell,Pendles gettin on

Macrae as an extractor I just don’t see. He’s decent at the the role at VFL but even then he doesn’t stack up to the most fringe AFL mids.

I don’t think he has the extractors build either he’s tallish and slender rather than short and built like brick shithouse.

 

[sr36]

A tall forward in Johnson goes out and a key defender/2nd ruck takes his place. Cox/Cameron have the potential to spend more time forward with the presence of Frampton.

Being able to deploy Frampton forward, back or in the ruck depending on the game situation appeals to me more than an out of form Johnson and with the return of McStay unlikely I hope we trial it this week.

It's not like the old days of positional play. The modern roles are more complex. He's big and he's strong and can compete, but I don't think he knows how to play any of the roles in our system that well yet - let alone asking him to alternate between all 3. He's not Nick Daicos.

 

[Doc1763]

It's not like the old days of positional play. The modern roles are more complex. He's big and he's strong and can compete, but I don't think he knows how to play any of the roles in our system that well yet - let alone asking him to alternate between all 3. He's not Nick Daicos.

There can be only one (unfortunately!)

 

[Fat Jesus]

It's strange how much ppl talk up WHE. 11 touches at 50% D/E with some embarrassing defensive efforts and marking efforts. He is most definitely on the cusp of being dropped when we get a few players back.

McRae must not know what he is doing.
Buckley and GWS before him.

Not factoring my own opinion of why he deserves a spot.

WHE was great in the last quarter.
Try watching a little

 

[Kappa]

McRae must not know what he is doing.
Buckley and GWS before him.

Not factoring my own opinion of why he deserves a spot.

WHE was great in the last quarter.
Try watching a little

What about the first 3 quarters?

 

[ElliottsMaggies]

McRae must not know what he is doing.
Buckley and GWS before him.

Not factoring my own opinion of why he deserves a spot.

WHE was great in the last quarter.
Try watching a little

Almost anyone else could have taken that mark & kicked that difficult goal from the boundary which put us further in front in the last and they'd be hailed a hero. WHE does it and it hardly gets a mention.

 

[Fat Jesus]

What about the first 3 quarters?

Ran his heart out.

 

[Kappa]

Ran his heart out.

Does that mean he was good or struggled?