Preview Changes: R3 vs Port Adelaide

[Scorpus]

IN:
Murphy, Laird, Frampton

OUT:
Sloane (adductor), Pedlar, Murray, Soligo (medi-sub)

 

[1970crow]

I agree the pressure always comes when you are not winning. I think the bigger issue that should bring more pressure is the change in how we look in game from last year to this. It’s been really noticeable. Just a complete lack of system or identifiable method.


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I think the opposite. For 6 quarters our system was exceedingly identifiable. For 2 quarters it was haphazard and chaotic.

 

[baldandbroke]

Do you have any thoughts into what has happened to Chayce?

When he played down here, he was awesome at just getting the ball and hitting the contest. He was an inside/outside player that loved to tackle.

His kicking has always been a bit blast and miss, but I think turn-overs at the top level have so much pain associated with them in the back-half that he has become petrified at the thought of being responsible for the damage he could cause.

I'd still play him up front. Let him just hunt the footy in the air and on the ground. He can leap for it, he tackles hard, he is fast / good at applying pressure, his set shot is pretty decent.

 

[Cap]

When he played down here, he was awesome at just getting the ball and hitting the contest. He was an inside/outside player that loved to tackle.

His kicking has always been a bit blast and miss, but I think turn-overs at the top level have so much pain associated with them in the back-half that he has become petrified at the thought of being responsible for the damage he could cause.

I'd still play him up front. Let him just hunt the footy in the air and on the ground. He can leap for it, he tackles hard, he is fast / good at applying pressure, his set shot is pretty decent.

Cheers.

Appreciate the insight

 

[1970crow]

As I've said before, the personnel might change, but our philosophy as a club has not and will not until we completely clean house. That means no Roo, no VB, no ex-players at all.
Until then all coach changes are simply shuffling chairs on the titanic.

Why is it so hard for people to comprehend that the decision makers are self appointed, so appoint only like minded and then as a group do the same when it comes to footy staff. Why would anyone expect the philosophies of Nicks to be different to Pyke? Roo was totally enamoured with them both abs I can’t imagine it was because he enjoyed the robust disagreements when interviewing or BBQing.

Mark Ricciuto, “What got -insert new coach name- over the line was how he challenged and made me re-think my own philosophies on footy.”

I’ll take sentences that will never ever be said for $1,000 thanks.

 

[1970crow]

I agree the pressure always comes when you are not winning. I think the bigger issue that should bring more pressure is the change in how we look in game from last year to this. It’s been really noticeable. Just a complete lack of system or identifiable method.


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Not “always”, I said the opposite. Nicks wasn’t under pressure when losing in 2020. He inherited a group at absolute rock bottom and as long as the mood was improving, he was as safe as houses.

 

[baldandbroke]

Not “always”, I said the opposite. Nicks wasn’t under pressure when losing in 2020. He inherited a group at absolute rock bottom and as long as the mood was improving, he was as safe as houses.

I think pressure comes when you lose 13 in a row. Different pressure than losing when you are expected to win, but still pressure.

 

[Mutineer]

Why is it so hard for people to comprehend that the decision makers are self appointed, so appoint only like minded and then as a group do the same when it comes to footy staff. Why would anyone expect the philosophies of Nicks to be different to Pyke? Roo was totally enamoured with them both abs I can’t imagine it was because he enjoyed the robust disagreements when interviewing or BBQing.

Mark Ricciuto, “What got -insert new coach name- over the line was how he challenged and made me re-think my own philosophies on footy.”

I’ll take sentences that will never ever be said for $1,000 thanks.

I believe it was Roo alone that was instrumental in bringing in Phil Walsh and Dean Bailey and I feel but for those absolute tragedies I think we'd be in a far better position than we are now, maybe even those 2 might have been able to eke out a Premiership by now.

 

[CrowBloke]

This was evident last Saturday - we were getting pumped around the ground, although the scoreboard didn't really show it, but we looked second rate to anyone who was watching - however, the only notable change was to give Rachelle some time on the ball in the last quarter [and this probably only came about because Sloane was done], the coaching staff made no real change to positions or game plan. Seems to be a "just work through it" attitude and things will turn around -they would need to see some improvement this week, sadly I think we will get pumped - I will rejoice if we can turn it around but highly doubtful.

Yeah, I agree, sadly.
PA wasted disposals/clearances/contested possessions dominance last week --- I don't know how and I'm delighted they got done, but the Crows are even worse than them.

 

[Milo Cyrus]

Any chance Dawson hits his straps this week and collects the Showdown medal?
Go get'em lad.

 

[hey shorty]

Any chance Dawson hits his straps this week and collects the Showdown medal?
Go get'em lad.

He's showing glimpses, one day soon it'll come.

Let's hope it's Friday

 

[GreyCrow]

Do you have any thoughts into what has happened to Chayce?

Too many instructions

 

[texanmike]

T-minus 24 hours until the melts that Himmelburg has retained his spot

 

[Sanders]

On a long drive, say, 1700Kms over two and a half days, one has time to think about a lot of things.

My latest trip was consumed by thoughts of the woeful Crows and any changes they need to make and not just vs PA this week. They are stuck with the cattle/Coaches that they have, at least short-term.

I'm tempted to repeat what I've all ready repeated about Himmelberg who's turned into a jig saw without a battery, or lead; he just doesn't cut it.
But that would not address the three biggest problems regarding CHANGES that must be made:
1) they have NO game plan --- the Crows have got to turn away from a week-by-week "Let's try this" to "Let's DO this" and the "this" is what they did for just over a quarter against Freo ie take the game on, play-on at every opportunity and run. They fell into this Season flat on their faces with an appalling, system-less game, which Nicks tried to claim was because they were "too revved up" (see his first post-game presser).
Bullshit, Nicksy; they do not know what they are doing, and that's on you. Sending them out to "play the way we play, the Crows way" is farcical when there is no way. They are an aimless, leaderless, plan-less rabble.

2) their terrible kicking skills/ positioning/ and ball skills in general. Their best two players for disposal are Dawson and Rachele who've honed their skills elsewhere, ie not-with-the-Crows. Dawson was not born with beautiful-kicking talent. It's something that he's developed via PRACTICE and it's what the Crows need a lot of.
PRACTICE, on the basics, every session.

3) this only occurred to me on the drive and it seems like a minor point.
At clearances (especially centre bounces and ball-ups) the Crows ball-chase, two/three-sometimes-four players at a time, all close in together. It's such a mess that when one of them gets the ball, his only options are another Crow, or two, within one or two metres --- because all of them were trying to get the ball --- with all of them under pressure. They have no outside, men-running-past plan.
Worse, RoB hardly ever taps to advantage, well, the Crows' advantage.

If the ball-getter is under pressure or not (Mrouch is the worst at this), he throws the ball on the boot wildly, aimlessly, and even when they lower their eyes their kicking skills let them down repeatedly. Their 15-to-30m kicks grub off the boot, fall short or wide or land on grateful oppo chests. Hospital-handpasses or handpasses that miss their target are the order of the day. Creative kicking/handball (ie creative football) which set up the next player to be in a good position is non-existent.

So, for all the who's-IN who's-OUT speculation, it won't matter.
It will not matter.
The Crows do not have the cattle, the Coaches/game plan/structure/skills, you name it, to win games and contend for a Flag, well, not anytime soon.

Instead, they have an affable, likable Coach who wants to be the players' friend, not their Coach.
They have a Captain who's beyond his use-by date, and who selects himself (fit or not), according to Burns.
They have (well, some) talented juniors who train and play in the SANFL (and when promoted) out of their best position, to accommodate Gold Pass senior players.
As for "development", please ask if Jones/ Fogarty/ RT/ Schoenberg/ Sholl/ McHenry/ McAsey and others are being developed, and how. I can't see it. A few have actually regressed! I've omitted EH, who hasn't got it after 4 years so I doubt that he will, ever.
The problems are many, run deep, and will take several years yet to get the Crows out of the bottom-6 Wilderness.

Well said.

1700 kms? Wow you must be exhausted

 

[Sanders]

I agree in regards to Fog's footy IQ as from his limited possessions probably 95% of them are advantageous to us [even if it is only 6-7 possies or a couple of knock ons} he made some frustrated mistakes on Saturday but normally whenever he has the ball its a win for us - if only he could get more!! that's the whole issue.

Exactly. Staggers me to hear people question his footy nouse when that’s a massive strength of his

He’s not getting enough of it though, that’s the problem not his footy IQ

 

[Sanders]

I believe it was Roo alone that was instrumental in bringing in Phil Walsh and Dean Bailey and I feel but for those absolute tragedies I think we'd be in a far better position than we are now, maybe even those 2 might have been able to eke out a Premiership by now.

Roo wasn’t involved when Bailey was appointed.

The strange thing there was that we identified Sando’s potential but recognised he needed an experienced hand to guide & support him. Then when Bailey got sick, we didn’t replace him and instead blamed the unsupported young coach, who we hired knowing he needed support, for not delivering.

That was perverse decision making

 

[George Kramer]

Burns mentioned Worrell yesterday as well didnt he? Could he get a run?

 

[hey shorty]

Burns mentioned Worrell yesterday as well didnt he? Could he get a run?

Worrell for Berg ??

Why the **** not.

 

[George Kramer]

Worrell for Berg ??

Why the **** not.

That’s a big call to flip positions though, can’t see it. Murray forward, Worrell back?

 

[FR0GGY]

That’s a big call to flip positions though, can’t see it. Murray forward, Worrell back?

The important thing was Berg out. The rest is icing.

 

[Scorpus]

Burns mentioned Worrell yesterday as well didnt he? Could he get a run?

He had his best game so that means he's due for a run at AFL level in about 12 weeks when we head to Tasmania

 

[hey shorty]

That’s a big call to flip positions though, can’t see it. Murray forward, Worrell back?

Could do, I mean they're probably as familiar to the forwardline as each other in recent times.

 

[hey shorty]

He had his best game so that means he's due for a run at AFL level in about 8 weeks when we head to Tasmania

Sub

 

[conVINCEd]

Roo wasn’t involved when Bailey was appointed.

The strange thing there was that we identified Sando’s potential but recognised he needed an experienced hand to guide & support him. Then when Bailey got sick, we didn’t replace him and instead blamed the unsupported young coach, who we hired knowing he needed support, for not delivering.

That was perverse decision making

Felt like we didn’t want to suggest Bailey wouldn’t recover and return, so we didn’t replace him. Which was crazy.

 

[Drugs Are Bad Mackay?]

That’s a big call to flip positions though, can’t see it. Murray forward, Worrell back?

Training with the forwards doesn't seem to have helped many of the forwards

 

[kirky]

Regarding Sloane - he was joint captain with Dangerfield in 2014. It didn’t work when he was captain and nothing has changed since. He just isn’t leadership material.