Preview Changes: round 13 vs Geelong. ADELAIDE OVAL. Sunday 23rd August.

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This might be a really out there suggestion, but just go with me for a second.

I like a lot of you must be, am genuinely concerned about Rory Sloane. I just don't see the same player that use to tear up games, and drag his team over the line anymore. He's been played in the middle, on the wing, up forward and he just can't get himself into the game in any position. And whats worse, his presence seems to almost always co-incide with out midfield failing now.

Would it be the worst option to trial him in the Tom Doedee 3rd up defender role for the remainder of the season? Tom's injured, McAsey hasn't stolen the job, Kelly is no-where near it, and none of the other young players seem able to naturally read the ball in flight well enough to play the role successfully.

Rory on the other hand is a very good reader of the ball in flight, is courageous enough to back into the pack, and has a very strong mark. Plus sending him behind the ball and give him a much simpler role (i.e. stop this man, and intercept every high ball you can) might get him playing more consistent footy again, and boost his confidence.

Its not unheard of with older players either, McLeod did it, so did Hodge. Both star mids who re-invented themselves in the late stages of their career. At this point we need to find a role for Rory, because that contract is looking like a potential albatross!
 
Atkins is the really interesting one. He seems (rightly) out of favour with Nicks, so it will be interesting to see if he is offered even a small contract next year and what he does from there.

Hearing Adam Kelly on 5AA, he was saying we would need to overhaul the list with the draft picks we have (2x1st, 2x2nd) as well as possible reduction in list numbers, so I don't see any of the 'let's sign DMac up to another 1 year deal before the draft or the new coach is signed' happening again this year.

Does it worry you that a sports administrator seems to have such influence on an AFL club's total list overhaul? It's not like he's just rolling in and learning amongst a highly performing group and throwing in the odd 2c. He's doing it with Fagan, Roo, Reid, a bean counter and Nicks. Seriously, which of those would even get a job with a list management angle at another AFL club? I can answer, none of them would get beyond a thanks for applying email.
 
And? Does it matter? If he's out of contract and likely to be delisted and Frampton is contracted for next year, then why bother putting the time in to Berg??
It's like picking Mackay over Scholl

It's really not. Mackay has no future at all, at our club or elsewhere. Well, at least not elsewhere. Maybe they have decided EH provides no more than Frampton and are hoping to build his trade value. I did think Frampton had earned a block of games, odd they cut it early.
 

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This might be a really out there suggestion, but just go with me for a second.

I like a lot of you must be, am genuinely concerned about Rory Sloane. I just don't see the same player that use to tear up games, and drag his team over the line anymore. He's been played in the middle, on the wing, up forward and he just can't get himself into the game in any position. And whats worse, his presence seems to almost always co-incide with out midfield failing now.

Would it be the worst option to trial him in the Tom Doedee 3rd up defender role for the remainder of the season? Tom's injured, McAsey hasn't stolen the job, Kelly is no-where near it, and none of the other young players seem able to naturally read the ball in flight well enough to play the role successfully.

Rory on the other hand is a very good reader of the ball in flight, is courageous enough to back into the pack, and has a very strong mark. Plus sending him behind the ball and give him a much simpler role (i.e. stop this man, and intercept every high ball you can) might get him playing more consistent footy again, and boost his confidence.

Its not unheard of with older players either, McLeod did it, so did Hodge. Both star mids who re-invented themselves in the late stages of their career. At this point we need to find a role for Rory, because that contract is looking like a potential albatross!

Unless his body gets back right, it's an albatross regardless. Paying $800k/year while trying to find a role for him that a 3rd year, $250k player is the definition of a disaster. Let's hope his physical issues are related to our god awful fitness group and he can return in 2021 in fit, strong and uninjured. It's still a waste of $, he's getting elite mid money, which is now beyond him, but it won't be as big a waste.
 
Sorry but I don’t know where to put this

Is it just me or is there a lot less controversy over sanctions for players who get reported this year?

Have they finally got it right?
 
Sorry but I don’t know where to put this

Is it just me or is there a lot less controversy over sanctions for players who get reported this year?

Have they finally got it right?
To be honest I've barely even noticed the MRP. Which is a good sign that its functioning the way it should be.

Either that or the rest of the world is so F'd up that no-one really care's anymore!
 
Sorry but I don’t know where to put this

Is it just me or is there a lot less controversy over sanctions for players who get reported this year?

Have they finally got it right?
By and large. Still too much focus on the outcome than the action.

Example 1 - Burgoyne applies horribly illegal tackle on Danger - he gets up and plays on, attracts a fine only.

Message should be sent with 1 game suspension. Equally poor tackle on Hamill gets 4 which was right, but only because of concussion.

Example 2 - Tom Lynch. Fine for striking. Again if we want this out of the game it must be 1 game. More if the outcome is serious.
 
This might be a really out there suggestion, but just go with me for a second.

I like a lot of you must be, am genuinely concerned about Rory Sloane. I just don't see the same player that use to tear up games, and drag his team over the line anymore. He's been played in the middle, on the wing, up forward and he just can't get himself into the game in any position. And whats worse, his presence seems to almost always co-incide with out midfield failing now.

Would it be the worst option to trial him in the Tom Doedee 3rd up defender role for the remainder of the season? Tom's injured, McAsey hasn't stolen the job, Kelly is no-where near it, and none of the other young players seem able to naturally read the ball in flight well enough to play the role successfully.

Rory on the other hand is a very good reader of the ball in flight, is courageous enough to back into the pack, and has a very strong mark. Plus sending him behind the ball and give him a much simpler role (i.e. stop this man, and intercept every high ball you can) might get him playing more consistent footy again, and boost his confidence.

Its not unheard of with older players either, McLeod did it, so did Hodge. Both star mids who re-invented themselves in the late stages of their career. At this point we need to find a role for Rory, because that contract is looking like a potential albatross!
I've been wanting Sloane to move to defense for a while now. Reckon he can play that Hodge role roaming around getting intercept possessions and providing shape and leadership.
 
This might be a really out there suggestion, but just go with me for a second.

I like a lot of you must be, am genuinely concerned about Rory Sloane. I just don't see the same player that use to tear up games, and drag his team over the line anymore. He's been played in the middle, on the wing, up forward and he just can't get himself into the game in any position. And whats worse, his presence seems to almost always co-incide with out midfield failing now.

Would it be the worst option to trial him in the Tom Doedee 3rd up defender role for the remainder of the season? Tom's injured, McAsey hasn't stolen the job, Kelly is no-where near it, and none of the other young players seem able to naturally read the ball in flight well enough to play the role successfully.

Rory on the other hand is a very good reader of the ball in flight, is courageous enough to back into the pack, and has a very strong mark. Plus sending him behind the ball and give him a much simpler role (i.e. stop this man, and intercept every high ball you can) might get him playing more consistent footy again, and boost his confidence.

Its not unheard of with older players either, McLeod did it, so did Hodge. Both star mids who re-invented themselves in the late stages of their career. At this point we need to find a role for Rory, because that contract is looking like a potential albatross!
Either that or plonked in the forward pocket. He's a good set of hands and normally a good kick. Unfortunately his time in the middle is done.
 
I've been wanting Sloane to move to defense for a while now. Reckon he can play that Hodge role roaming around getting intercept possessions and providing shape and leadership.
I actually think he will get his form back pretty quickly if the balls comes too him and his role is simplified. But him getting it back by purely hunting the footy, yeah it’s just not happening anymore.

Plus you’re right, his leadership would be very handy down back in these games/floggings
 
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Either that or plonked in the forward pocket. He's a good set of hands and normally a good kick. Unfortunately his time in the middle is done.
My only issue with this is we will be too tempted to throw him back in the midfield.

If he’s down back as a set intercept defender then we really can’t move him. Which IMO is probably what Rory needs at this crossroads of his career.
 
I've been wanting Sloane to move to defense for a while now. Reckon he can play that Hodge role roaming around getting intercept possessions and providing shape and leadership.

Difference is Luke Hodge has elite disposal and is an excellent onfield tactician and director. No evidence that Sloane is anything but a lead by example type. Sloane May be a captain but he's not close to being Luke Hodge quality.
 

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Worked for Roo. I think this is already being contemplated for Rory.

Sloane is also no Roo. Roo was a powerful leader at the ball with an accurate cannon for a leg. Rory is nowhere near that and for actual football skill, belongs with VB. Who we also had to push around to find a spot for in his late 20s. I think Rory's only hope is returning to his gut running past.
 
Difference is Luke Hodge has elite disposal and is an excellent onfield tactician and director. No evidence that Sloane is anything but a lead by example type. Sloane May be a captain but he's not close to being Luke Hodge quality.
Absolutely agree with you especially with disposal. Worth seeing if he has the IQ down back though.
 
Sloane is also no Roo. Roo was a powerful leader at the ball with an accurate cannon for a leg. Rory is nowhere near that and for actual football skill, belongs with VB. Who we also had to push around to find a spot for in his late 20s. I think Rory's only hope is returning to his gut running past.

I definitely rate Sloane over VB. Suspect he's also suffering from a lack of fitness for eg off for a rest after only a couple of mins against the dogs. I'd be more inclined to play him fwd than back but doesn't hurt to try.
 
Absolutely agree with you especially with disposal. Worth seeing if he has the IQ down back though.

I'm not seeing anything that excites me. I'd see him in the Brown mould but maybe a bit better overhead and a little more desperate for contested ground ball. He's not going to break lines with speed of foot or precision ball use. I get people wanting to try different roles, he is captain and has 3 more years, but I'm reasonably confident that his future lies in his past and gut running is his what he needs to return to.
 
Absolutely agree with you especially with disposal. Worth seeing if he has the IQ down back though.
He wouldn't need to be the Hodge like distributor to play that intercept defender role IMO. We have plenty of those types already.

He would play more like Doedee. 3rd man up, plays on a medium forward, racks up decent disposals but certainly isn't the QB type player out of defense.
 
I've been wanting Sloane to move to defense for a while now. Reckon he can play that Hodge role roaming around getting intercept possessions and providing shape and leadership.
Given the amount of ball that is going into our backlines this year, he at the very least should be able to get his hands on the ball more often. I actually like the idea of him in defense, am at least try and rebound of half back and can be no worse than Brown / Kelly
 

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