Prediction Changes v Whoever The **** It Is After The Bye

[sey666]

According to a footy record from earlier this year:

Vozzo (chairman), Simpson, Cox, Graham, Longmuir, Pratt, Gepp.

Thanks Fivey - much appreciated.

 

[Keys]

Given Danihers years of football experience including 10 years as a senior coach him being Chairman of Selectors at the time makes sense. Vozzo not so much, with all due respect.

Cox, Graham and Pratt all being on the match committee ahead of Hickmott also makes no sense since he's our most experienced assistant behind Longmuir

And Gepp, why bother

 

[Keys]

I'll also add that if Simpson isn't getting the side that he wants with that match committee then I've got reservations as to whether he has the stones to be a senior coach

 

[The Stid]

Given Danihers years of football experience including 10 years as a senior coach him being Chairman of Selectors at the time makes sense. Vozzo not so much, with all due respect.

Cox, Graham and Pratt all being on the match committee ahead of Hickmott also makes no sense since he's our most experienced assistant behind Longmuir

And Gepp, why bother

I was wondering why Hickmott isn't on the MC too, if you're going to have the whole coaching group in there why leave one out? Makes you wonder if he was and doesn't agree with the MC's selection process. And why the f**k would Gepp be there anyway? To get what Nisbett wants? I just get a bad vibe when ever I see that blokes face.

This is probably for another time and another thread but I also do not rate Graham. Is it any coincidence that with his appointment as forwards coach for this year our forward line also completely goes to s**t?

I'll also add that if Simpson isn't getting the side that he wants with that match committee then I've got reservations as to whether he has the stones to be a senior coach

No doubt though Cox would be among Vozzo and Gepp advocating for his old mates to continue getting gigs (possibly Graham too) that potentially leaves him with Pratt and maybe Longmuir in his corner.

 

[Crimson King]

I'll also add that if Simpson isn't getting the side that he wants with that match committee then I've got reservations as to whether he has the stones to be a senior coach

From what I have heard, Woosha didnt have full control either until after he won the 2006 premiership and only then he made the changes he wanted so would not surprised one bit if history is repeating itself and Simmo is also restricted for the time being. Either way, it is quite pathetic that our senior coach has to deal with a snake like Gepp whose presence in the coaches box in the past has been to unofficially report back to the board on the coaching staff's performance whilst officially being an opposition analyst.

 

[MrKK]

I'll also add that if Simpson isn't getting the side that he wants with that match committee then I've got reservations as to whether he has the stones to be a senior coach

Is it like that at other clubs? It staggers me that a senior coach would accept being undermined at the selection table, when he's the one that has to explain decisions to the media and is first in the firing line if the selected team doesn't perform.

 

[Here2tellyouwhy]

We've just come off a bye.

I'll bet dollars to donuts Butler dominates for East Perth on Saturday.

 

[Magnum27]

Way too tall, Hill cops the axe for no particular reason.

Lecras and Cripps better ******* accomplish something this week.

Why would they need to, it's pretty clear they are the favoured ones going on the last few weeks, zero performance and still in the team.

 

[ShriekingShack]

Very disappointed with these changes. The same coach killers are still running around out there and I fully expect us to crumble again. How Priddis and LeCras are still getting games is beyond me, as they have been atrocious all season.
The sad thing is that our coaching staff probably think they are being innovative and clever by playing all these giants , while the rest of us have seen how this ends before and it's not pretty.

The only bright light will be getting to see how Cole goes.

 

[wce4premiership]

No it didnt. I have no idea why this is constantly repeated on here. He played the Sydney game forward and had 19 disposals and 8 marks an kicked 2.1, plus we won. That's not a fail by any stretch.

Yes he did, this wasn't the only game he played forward. He got in the way of JK at times (not an issue this week) and I seriously doubt he has the tank to apply any forward pressure for four quarters.

 

[FKASC]

The 3.5 years Gov spent in the WAFL before his debut didn't seem to do him much harm.

He was a rookie from country WA and every team passed over him on multiple occasions.

You can afford to leave fat project rookies in the WAFL for years until you give them a chance.

Makes less sense to apply the same logic to players taken in the first couple of rounds of the draft who were highly rated, especially when they are from interstate.

 

[Godfather32]

I hope he has a good game as it will be his last for the year.

Butler not even named an emergency so clearly just being rested.

He will be back next week after going one better than Priddis and signing for 2 more years.

Butler might get a contract extension, I heard they're bringing back the cheerleaders for the new stadium and he's going to be the dance coach

 

[Xsess]

Vozzo (chairman), Simpson, Cox, Graham, Longmuir, Pratt, Gepp.

In other words the genius behind our top up for a flag recruitment strategy is now persisting with this folly as MC chairman with team selection. Despite the fact this has obviously failed. Despite his reading of our list so obviously flawed that we are now ninth and playing our worst footy since 2010. Despite the obvious day of reckoning fast approaching as this madness will surely leave this club in tatters for years to come. Wouldn't it be nice to think these unimaginable idiots are shown the door at years end?

 

[Monocle]

I'll also add that if Simpson isn't getting the side that he wants with that match committee then I've got reservations as to whether he has the stones to be a senior coach

And thats what I am worried about Keys.
Because if thats the case , then IMO he won't make it.

Saying that I really hope I am wrong because I like Simpson and was rapt when we made the appointment as I genuinely thought he had what it takes.

I suspect he is being "hand braked" and thats why I am so aggressively wanting the removal of interfering influences.
Similarly I was disappointed when Cransberg moved on as I thought he was one of the few,at the Club, that had a pair.

I guess much of my condemnation of certain people still involved at the Club, is fuelled by my dismay that ( after the whole drugs / Cousins / bad influence thing) , they haven't been shown the door. Having worked with and sat on Boards at Corporate Level both in Australia and overseas I find it incomprehensible, that certain officers still at the Club, haven't been dismissed.
Cultural and ethical mismanagement can be as devastating and as damaging as serious financial mismanagement, and whilst I am not saying that they were guilty of impropriety ( as such ) rather their management at the time demonstrated a lack of true leadership and displayed gross incompetence, the ramifications and repercussions of which we are still feeling today. Make no mistake Cultural and Ethical mismanagement can set an organisation back for a decade or longer as they recover lost ground. Sound familiar !!!????

One thing I am 100% sure of is if the same negligence that was show by WC's management over the drugs scandal and the ensuing saga had occurred at all the Companies I have worked for, then the same officials that I have issue with, would have been very quickly given their marching instructions.

 

[Keys]

Is it like that at other clubs? It staggers me that a senior coach would accept being undermined at the selection table, when he's the one that has to explain decisions to the media and is first in the firing line if the selected team doesn't perform.

No idea. I'd have thought the senior coach has the main voice since as you say he's the one who cops it if the team doesn't perform.

 

[Here2tellyouwhy]

Butler might get a contract extension, I heard they're bringing back the cheerleaders for the new stadium and he's going to be the dance coach

Will still contribute more than Cole

 

[Barney44]

I can't believe all you supporters are picking on Mark LeCras. When we play bottom of the ladder Brisbane at home in round 19 he'll prove you all wrong. On that day he'll show he can still play good football.

 

[RookiePick]

Haggers suggesting this morning that Justin Langer will join the West Coast board.

Would be pretty big IMO.

 

[The Dodger]

I'll also add that if Simpson isn't getting the side that he wants with that match committee then I've got reservations as to whether he has the stones to be a senior coach

Is it like that at other clubs? It staggers me that a senior coach would accept being undermined at the selection table, when he's the one that has to explain decisions to the media and is first in the firing line if the selected team doesn't perform.

I would assume its safer career wise. Harder for the club to have an issue with you when you toe the line. Being adversarial and dropping names the clubs like means you would be monitored more closely than what you already are and any failure would be seen as grounds for saying you have no idea what you are doing.

Being part of the team that fails at selection means you cant be held accountable personally and personally think Simmo is just trying to see when they come around and realise that we are an average side like he is saying so we can perhaps stop protecting the older players from the axe as they get on. While trying to work some youth in there to get exposure while this little game plays out.

I dont know perhaps the club are aware that supporters will turn on "the foreigner" quickly if he is able to wield the axe like he wants and the team starts to go backwards (inevitably for a bit) and introduce youth while pensioning off fan favourites Lecras & Priddis.

 

[Chris_6678]

Haggers suggesting this morning that Justin Langer will join the West Coast board.

Would be pretty big IMO.

Yeah that is pretty good actually... Someone with coaching experience.

 

[avishka5]

Yeah that is pretty good actually... Someone with coaching experience.

Most importantly has had success and has turned and ordinary organisation into a successful one.

 

[dajesmac]

It seems like assumptions, that Simpson doesn't have control over the MC and that the side being picked isn't his own, are gaining dangerous momentum.

For all we know, Simpson is getting the side he wants and until there's anything solid to suggest otherwise he has to cop responsibility for it. The notion that he is having his hand forced against dropping senior players seems very unlikely to me.

 

[Matera92]

Yeah that is pretty good actually... Someone with coaching experience.

Most importantly has had success and has turned and ordinary organisation into a successful one.

Not to mention the guys about 85% hard campaigner when it comes to competitive instincts, better not let him near the playing group, will probably end in tears for some of our good little boys.

 

[lewigie]

It seems like assumptions, that Simpson doesn't have control over the MC and that the side being picked isn't his own, are gaining dangerous momentum.

For all we know, Simpson is getting the side he wants and until there's anything solid to suggest otherwise he has to cop responsibility for it. The notion that he is having his hand forced against dropping senior players seems very unlikely to me.

Yeah that's true, it's putting a bit of blind faith in Simpson and thinking he can do no wrong.. when really it's most likely he's calling the shots here as head coach and choosing these teams each week.

Which is a depressing prospect haha

Also Hickmont is an incredibly well regarded coach, so maybe by choice he isn't on the match committee, otherwise I can't see why he wouldn't be

 

[dajesmac]

Yeah that's true, it's putting a bit of blind faith in Simpson and thinking he can do no wrong.. when really it's most likely he's calling the shots here as head coach and choosing these teams each week.

Which is a depressing prospect haha

Also Hickmont is an incredibly well regarded coach, so maybe by choice he isn't on the match committee, otherwise I can't see why he wouldn't be

I don't think the suggestion really was that Simpson can do no wrong - really it opens up the other criticism of him that, like Keys said, he may lack the stones to control the team.

Personally I think he just likes to back in senior players, both out of a sense of personal loyalty and out of fear of the risk of worse short term performances of bringing in the kids. I sense there may be some denial that this 'tilt' is over and dropping LeCras for a Partington for instance would almost seem like an admission of that.