Preview Changes Vs Golden Toast

[threenewpadlocks]

Why are so many keen on bringing Keath back in ?

He’s turning circle and flexibility is like the titanic

start to play Buss I say

There'll be plenty of time to give Buss a good run at it on the back end of the year (with or without Bevo as coach) should we continue to lose games. Until then, we have to squeeze whatever ounce of football Keath has left in him.

 

[weltschmerz]

Why are so many keen on bringing Keath back in ?

He’s turning circle and flexibility is like the titanic

start to play Buss I say

Someone has to play on Casboult and I think Keath's the best match.

 

[Dog 36]

There'll be plenty of time to give Buss a good run at it on the back end of the year (with or without Bevo as coach) should we continue to lose games. Until then, we have to squeeze whatever ounce of football Keath has left in him.

The juice Keath will give is not worth the squeeze.

Pre season seeing him move suggests he is done

 

[adogsfan5]

A few ideas:

1. If Naughton isn't going to offer an aerial contest and strong defensive pressure (his two strongest attributes) he should be dragged from full forward and play CHB where he needs to be accountable. He and Jones with Buku as the third are strong pillars. Red, Coff, JJ and Bramble the smalls.

2. Move Dale to a wing. Had a pretty s**t game but at least tries to run and create overlap and bite off tougher kicks.

3. Lobb out, bring Darcy in. Darcy and Jamarra the two main tall targets with a smaller forward line around them. Weightman can play his natural game as a third aerial threat anyway. We're not doing s**t this year and that's our future so give them time to gel.

4. Sanders to stay in the side (same as above, just get games into him, he'll be better for the run) Harmes out and Macrae in as the fifth mid rotation. With Naughton playing back, rotate bont more into the forward line to cause trouble. Treloar also on notice and needs to lay 10 tackles next game to stay in.

5. VDM out for Clarke and maybe Bedendo to play that higher wing role with Williams and Dale.

FB: Khamis Jones Coffield
HB Richards Naughton JJ
C: Williams Treloar Dale
HF: West Jamarra Daniel
FF: Clarke Darcy Weightman
R: English Bont Libba

I/C: Macrae, Sanders, Bedendo, Bramble

I don't care what score we kick I just want an elite pressure rating and to keep the suns to under 60 points.

Past the point in caring that Naughton kicks 40-50 goals a year. We are ranked 16th in intercept marks down back in the last 3 seasons, next to North (17th) and WCE (18th). Ideal world yeah he works very well at FF, but what’s the point in having him there if our game plan is to kick it long and high to a 2 on 2 or 3 on 3? Completely wasting such a good forward line.

I know it’s clearly not going to happen but if I had it my way, Naughts will go to CHB, play the McGovern role and our key forwards would be Jamarra and Darcy with 4 smalls next to them and the coach saying if you bomb it in, you’re on the bench.

 

[mattwa]

Past the point in caring that Naughton kicks 40-50 goals a year. We are ranked 16th in intercept marks down back in the last 3 seasons, next to North (17th) and WCE (18th). Ideal world yeah he works very well at FF, but what’s the point in having him there if our game plan is to kick it long and high to a 2 on 2 or 3 on 3? Completely wasting such a good forward line.

I know it’s clearly not going to happen but if I had it my way, Naughts will go to CHB, play the McGovern role and our key forwards would be Jamarra and Darcy with 4 smalls next to them and the coach saying if you bomb it in, you’re on the bench.

Unfortunately both McGovern's are great by foot whereas Naughton is not. His kicking is a huge liability it's very slow and would be extremely predictable out of back 50. I get the sentiment behind the move but it definitely has some flaws. We are seeing Jamarra break out but you'd be naive to think having naughton forward doesn't help him

 

[adogsfan5]

Unfortunately both McGovern's are great by foot whereas Naughton is not. His kicking is a huge liability it's very slow and would be extremely predictable out of back 50. I get the sentiment behind the move but it definitely has some flaws. We are seeing Jamarra break out but you'd be naive to think having naughton forward doesn't help him

That is a valid point, very true..

 

[Palace03]

Our bottom 4-6 are just so poor, the same guys keep getting rotated though, just doesnt make nay difference. McNeil and VDM are such poor footballers, but the alternatives in Poulter, Baker and Scott are marginally better at best. Try someone different in Bedendo who atleast kicked a few goals in the VFL.

Really need another key back but with Gardner and JOD not fit don't think we can (Keath is beyond cooked and missed alot of pre season)

I'd go McRea, Daniel and Bedendo in
Harmes, McNeil and VDM out
Scott or Poulter sub.

 

[MaxiBont]

Witts will give English an absolute bath.

Not thrilled to watch us try and stop the momentum from centre bounce after the abysmal shift we put in against the Demons.

Prediction - Bulldogs to kick the first 4 and look to be in cruise control only to concede 5 goals in a row in the 2nd and end up losing by 32.

 

[Dogsman16]

Do we attempt the Darcy to backline experiment again?

He's not quick enough but his intercept ability and kicking is outstanding.

Sadly our zone defence up field is so diabolical he would probably get exposed and his assets not utilised.

 

[Merlins Revenge]

Witts will give English an absolute bath.

Not thrilled to watch us try and stop the momentum from centre bounce after the abysmal shift we put in against the Demons.

Prediction - Bulldogs to kick the first 4 and look to be in cruise control only to concede 5 goals in a row in the 2nd and end up losing by 32.

God, this is so accurate. I can see it now.

 

[doggiesin08]

I think it's coming from the basis that after waiting years for Tim to grow into an actual competitive Ruckman, he is still just a tall midfielder. Fans are getting frustrated with him.

No it’s coming from the basis that when they both competed against Reeves in back-to-back weeks Darcy was better. That and various pre-season footage where Darcy was clearly holding his own or beating them (I accept it’s a limited sample).

 

[TiAn_]

Darcy is still only 21. Hardly any rucks are ready to go at that age, particularly not ones built the way he is. He’ll have to spend most of his time forward for at least another year or two.

The idea that he could come in this week and hold his own against Witts is just wishful thinking. He’d get smashed.

 

[maddog37]

Was kind of surprised when May Dumped Harmes in a tackle then given it to him.

May is one if the biggest nobs going around. Total phukwitt

 

[doggies ftw]

Darcy is still only 21. Hardly any rucks are ready to go at that age, particularly not ones built the way he is. He’ll have to spend most of his time forward for at least another year or two.

The idea that he could come in this week and hold his own against Witts is just wishful thinking. He’d get smashed.

He may get smashed but I don’t believe he’d do any worse than Lobb personally, which is the only thing that is relevant here

 

[doggies ftw]

Please no more Treloar in the middle, I genuinely think a big part of our issues in there is how reliant we are on him playing flipping 90% of centre bounces. For one of the fittest and most experienced & professional guys on our list I counted at least 5 times on the weekend I would have dragged him for piss poor efforts. I’m 100% done with him on the inside. Put him to work on a flank. Replace his inside minutes with Macrae, Sanders, Harmes, Richards - we need a different look, we spent all preseason developing midfield rotations and went back to playing 3 guys all day

 

[Deepthroat]

Has English had the all clear following the head knock on Sunday?

He has a history of delayed concussion. His preseason delayed by "migraine-related symptoms".

Has he been passed for this week and the season?

 

[Mofra]

No it’s coming from the basis that when they both competed against Reeves in back-to-back weeks Darcy was better. That and various pre-season footage where Darcy was clearly holding his own or beating them (I accept it’s a limited sample).

English flogged Darcy in recent match sim. I love what Darcy will be but I just don't think he's ready to do any more than occasionally chop-out in the ruck at AFL level.

 

[Bald]

Has English had the all clear following the head knock on Sunday?

He has a history of delayed concussion. His preseason delayed by "migraine-related symptoms".

Has he been passed for this week and the season?

He didn't have a head knock, it was a hip pointer is my understanding.

 

[Optimistic Dog]

Will Bevolotto serve up the All Australian supplementary number of 35 this week it may even be number 11. Also will he use his pet numbers of 23 and 30.

 

[TiAn_]

He may get smashed but I don’t believe he’d do any worse than Lobb personally, which is the only thing that is relevant here

Agree that he’s probably not far behind Lobb in the centre, thanks to his leap. I think he’d get splattered outside of there. But I was really responding to the idea of dropping English for him. Darcy needs another couple of years before he’ll be ready for bulk ruck contests.

 

[dardog]

I really do hope there is some consideration given to Naughton at CHB and Darcy up front.
People truly forget how good he was down back.

 

[lachy]

Agree that he’s probably not far behind Lobb in the centre, thanks to his leap. I think he’d get splattered outside of there. But I was really responding to the idea of dropping English for him. Darcy needs another couple of years before he’ll be ready for bulk ruck contests.

At the moment it is clearly Darcy or Lobb not English as you correctly point out.

I think the issue affecting some posters views is English wanting a long term contract v what he can offer now. For the next 2 seasons he is our best option as the number 1 ruck with Darcy developing in the forward ruck role, whilst monitoring his body

 

[lachy]

I really do hope there is some consideration given to Naughton at CHB and Darcy up front.
People truly forget how good he was down back.

I could be wrong but my memory is his field kicking is of a reasonably good standard, it is just his kicking for goal is average.

I am sure someone has some evidence one way or another. Darcy is dangerous up forward, Lobb not so much

 

[doggiesin08]

English flogged Darcy in recent match sim. I love what Darcy will be but I just don't think he's ready to do any more than occasionally chop-out in the ruck at AFL level.

Thanks, hadn’t read that but good to know. Was the “smashing” around the ground or in the actual center bounces, ruck contests, etc. To be clear my desired outcome is Darcy to replace Lobb not English. I think every game Darcy plays is a game closer to us winning a flag but I don’t feel the same about Lobb.

He may get smashed but I don’t believe he’d do any worse than Lobb personally, which is the only thing that is relevant here

I feel like this board is going to be arguing past each other all year. Darcy doesn’t have to be “ready” (whatever that means) to get picked ahead of Lobb. He just needs to offer more than the alternative for the role. In the same way, Rhylee West didn’t need to have the same potential as his father to be better than McComb.

 

[dardog]

I could be wrong but my memory is his field kicking is of a reasonably good standard, it is just his kicking for goal is average.

I am sure someone has some evidence one way or another. Darcy is dangerous up forward, Lobb not so much

It is pretty hit or miss but ranking 3rd last for intercepts over the last 3 years is something we cannot ignore.
Naughton offers an automatic fix to this.
If our defence can tighten up, I see no reason why we can't kick a winning score with our other assests in the front half