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I saw it. I saw football as far back as the mid 70s.
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"At least ten" former members of the Lovie Smith and Marc Trestman coaching staffs told ESPN Chicago the Bears "can't consistently compete for championships" with Jay Cutler as the quarterback.
Two Bears teammates also said they consider Cutler "a divisive figure with whom they'd rather not continue to play." Beat writer Michael C. Wright still expects the Bears to give Cutler "one last shot," something his contract almost requires they do. It's no secret Cutler essentially sabotaged Trestman's offense, refusing to operate within the confines of the system. When asked about his willingness to adhere to any offensive structure, several ex-Bears coaches used the terms "renegade" and "rogue" to describe Cutler's play.
Source: ESPN Chicago
Two Bears teammates also said they consider Cutler "a divisive figure with whom they'd rather not continue to play." Beat writer Michael C. Wright still expects the Bears to give Cutler "one last shot," something his contract almost requires they do. It's no secret Cutler essentially sabotaged Trestman's offense, refusing to operate within the confines of the system. When asked about his willingness to adhere to any offensive structure, several ex-Bears coaches used the terms "renegade" and "rogue" to describe Cutler's play.
Source: ESPN Chicago
Rumours flying around about trying for Kap. Pretty clear they are trying to move Cutler if they can and that is a massive IF.
Lost B Marsh to the Jets for pretty much nothing, I was very disappointed personally to lose such a good player for so little but their is obviously issues there.
Pernell McPhee has agreed to join the Bear's on a 40 million, 16 guaranteed 5 year deal.
Lost B Marsh to the Jets for pretty much nothing, I was very disappointed personally to lose such a good player for so little but their is obviously issues there.
Pernell McPhee has agreed to join the Bear's on a 40 million, 16 guaranteed 5 year deal.
Bears sign Eddie Royal (WR) and Antrel Rolle (S) today.
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Bears have more old guys than anyone in the NFL right now
Posted by Darin Gantt on April 6, 2015, 7:36 AM EDT
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Few coaches love veterans more than John Fox.
Which is a good thing, since he has more of them than any coach in the NFL.
According to Jimmy Kempski of PhillyVoice.com, the Bears have 14 players on their roster at the moment age 30 or older.
Fox is a known truster of old guys, and looks at rookies with skepticism until they get a few years under them. Remember, the year he went to his first Super Bowl, his Week 1 starter at quarterback was Rodney Peete (though Jake Delhomme replaced him at halftime of the opener). And the Bears have a quarterback now who Fox had little use for in Carolina (Jimmy Clausen), who has drawn good reviews from those in Chicago now that he’s not an over-his-head rookie.
The Jets, Bengals, Colts and 49ers are next on the seasoned-player list with 12 each, while the Jaguars, Packers, Buccaneers and Rams are tied for youngest with four each.
Generally speaking, you’d rather be on the younger side of that list than the older for economic and longevity issues. But having some 30-plus guys around can also lend some stability, which coaches like Fox in Chicago, Todd Bowles with the Jets and Jim Tomsula in San Francisco are going to need as they rebuild.
Posted by Darin Gantt on April 6, 2015, 7:36 AM EDT
Few coaches love veterans more than John Fox.
Which is a good thing, since he has more of them than any coach in the NFL.
According to Jimmy Kempski of PhillyVoice.com, the Bears have 14 players on their roster at the moment age 30 or older.
Fox is a known truster of old guys, and looks at rookies with skepticism until they get a few years under them. Remember, the year he went to his first Super Bowl, his Week 1 starter at quarterback was Rodney Peete (though Jake Delhomme replaced him at halftime of the opener). And the Bears have a quarterback now who Fox had little use for in Carolina (Jimmy Clausen), who has drawn good reviews from those in Chicago now that he’s not an over-his-head rookie.
The Jets, Bengals, Colts and 49ers are next on the seasoned-player list with 12 each, while the Jaguars, Packers, Buccaneers and Rams are tied for youngest with four each.
Generally speaking, you’d rather be on the younger side of that list than the older for economic and longevity issues. But having some 30-plus guys around can also lend some stability, which coaches like Fox in Chicago, Todd Bowles with the Jets and Jim Tomsula in San Francisco are going to need as they rebuild.
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Bears' top-five draft needs after free agency
Posted: 04/04/2015, 07:35pm | Adam Jahns
Alabama's Landon Collins. (Getty Images)
General manager Ryan Pace hoped to address needs in free agency so he could be in a position to pick the best player available in the draft. But Pace’s free-agent haul contains only three contracts longer than one year. He will be rebuilding through the draft, which was his original formula anyway.
Here are the Bears’ top-five draft needs after free agency:
Safety
The Bears only have three safeties on their roster: Antrel Rolle, Ryan Mundy and Brock Vereen. Alabama’s Landon Collins is the best safety in a thin class, and he won’t last past the first round. The Bears have looked at safeties who will be available later, including Ole Miss’ Cody Prewitt, Northwestern’s Ibraheim Campbell and Alabama’s Nick Perry. Veteran cornerback Alan Ball was signed to a one-year deal worth potentially $3 million, indicating that the Bears might be willing to wait on cornerbacks in the draft.
Interior defensive line
Defensive ends Ray McDonald and Jarvis Jenkins should be penciled in as starters with nose tackle Jeremiah Ratliff in the Bears’ 3-4. The team has some flexibility because outside linebackers Pernell McPhee and Lamarr Houston can play on the line. But improving their line rotation with some young talent to go with second-year tackles Ego Ferguson and Will Sutton is important, and Pace said the Seattle Seahawks are a model. Coach John Fox said this year’s draft class is deep with front-seven defenders.
Wide receiver
The Bears might regret passing on Alabama’s Amari Cooper or West Virginia’s Kevin White, if one is available at No. 7. But Pace and Fox, like other general managers and coaches, consider this year to be deep at receiver, meaning they might be willing to wait until later.
Pass rusher
The Bears seem to have plenty of pass rushers, but Pace insists that you can never have enough, and he says this draft is loaded with them. “If the right pass rusher is there in the first round, we’ll take that,” he said. “When you think about it, this is a passing league now. The best way to disrupt the passing game is to hit the QB. ‘‘So the more pass rushers we can accumulate, the better.”
Quarterback
Pace and Fox are on the record calling Oregon’s Marcus Mariota a good quarterback. Pace even said he wouldn’t be scared off by Mariota’s success being a partial result of playing in a unique, non-NFL system. It’s unlikely that Mariota will fall to No. 7. Plenty of teams could be calling the Bears if he does, but Pace believes in taking a quarterback every draft, if possible.
Posted: 04/04/2015, 07:35pm | Adam Jahns
Alabama's Landon Collins. (Getty Images)
General manager Ryan Pace hoped to address needs in free agency so he could be in a position to pick the best player available in the draft. But Pace’s free-agent haul contains only three contracts longer than one year. He will be rebuilding through the draft, which was his original formula anyway.
Here are the Bears’ top-five draft needs after free agency:
Safety
The Bears only have three safeties on their roster: Antrel Rolle, Ryan Mundy and Brock Vereen. Alabama’s Landon Collins is the best safety in a thin class, and he won’t last past the first round. The Bears have looked at safeties who will be available later, including Ole Miss’ Cody Prewitt, Northwestern’s Ibraheim Campbell and Alabama’s Nick Perry. Veteran cornerback Alan Ball was signed to a one-year deal worth potentially $3 million, indicating that the Bears might be willing to wait on cornerbacks in the draft.
Interior defensive line
Defensive ends Ray McDonald and Jarvis Jenkins should be penciled in as starters with nose tackle Jeremiah Ratliff in the Bears’ 3-4. The team has some flexibility because outside linebackers Pernell McPhee and Lamarr Houston can play on the line. But improving their line rotation with some young talent to go with second-year tackles Ego Ferguson and Will Sutton is important, and Pace said the Seattle Seahawks are a model. Coach John Fox said this year’s draft class is deep with front-seven defenders.
Wide receiver
The Bears might regret passing on Alabama’s Amari Cooper or West Virginia’s Kevin White, if one is available at No. 7. But Pace and Fox, like other general managers and coaches, consider this year to be deep at receiver, meaning they might be willing to wait until later.
Pass rusher
The Bears seem to have plenty of pass rushers, but Pace insists that you can never have enough, and he says this draft is loaded with them. “If the right pass rusher is there in the first round, we’ll take that,” he said. “When you think about it, this is a passing league now. The best way to disrupt the passing game is to hit the QB. ‘‘So the more pass rushers we can accumulate, the better.”
Quarterback
Pace and Fox are on the record calling Oregon’s Marcus Mariota a good quarterback. Pace even said he wouldn’t be scared off by Mariota’s success being a partial result of playing in a unique, non-NFL system. It’s unlikely that Mariota will fall to No. 7. Plenty of teams could be calling the Bears if he does, but Pace believes in taking a quarterback every draft, if possible.
I read more articles today about the Bears getting keener on Mariota, Interesting developments!
What do you reckon GG?
What do you reckon GG?
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Bears first-round WR Kevin White (shin) has now been sidelined for more than six weeks.
White continues to make progress, but remains on active/PUP. The Bears have declined to give any kind of timetable or reveal the exact nature of his injury. "I hope sooner rather than later, but that's just a hope," coach John Fox said. Once cleared, White will have a lot of ground to make up under notorious rookie hater Fox. Alshon Jeffery, Martellus Bennett, Matt Forte and Eddie Royal are all competent targets for Jay Cutler.
Source: Brad Biggs on Twitte
White continues to make progress, but remains on active/PUP. The Bears have declined to give any kind of timetable or reveal the exact nature of his injury. "I hope sooner rather than later, but that's just a hope," coach John Fox said. Once cleared, White will have a lot of ground to make up under notorious rookie hater Fox. Alshon Jeffery, Martellus Bennett, Matt Forte and Eddie Royal are all competent targets for Jay Cutler.
Source: Brad Biggs on Twitte
Real concern about White IMO. Hope he can get this sorted.
Cutler on last legs at Bears, hope this is the year he gets his shit semi together
Cutler on last legs at Bears, hope this is the year he gets his shit semi together
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Disappointing about White...personally I didn't like him at all....but ignoring my evaluation....even IF white struggles this year, you guys are still pretty ok at WR, RB, TE, Defense. It's really Cutler that's the issue that will likely still see an average year out of him, and you guys will no doubt be looking at drafting a franchise QB next year.
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Bears first-round WR Kevin White (shin splints) could miss the entire preseason.
White is reportedly "symptom free," and has resumed running, but the Bears want him to take things slow so his shin issues do not recur. With Chicago's regular season dress rehearsal still nearly three weeks away, it's far too early to rule White out for the entire preseason.
Source: Jeff Dickerson on Twitter
White is reportedly "symptom free," and has resumed running, but the Bears want him to take things slow so his shin issues do not recur. With Chicago's regular season dress rehearsal still nearly three weeks away, it's far too early to rule White out for the entire preseason.
Source: Jeff Dickerson on Twitter
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Jay Cutler hasn't thrown an interception through 11 training camp practices.
Marcus Mariota and Geno Smith have gotten more attention for their INT-free streaks, but Smokin' Jay has been careful with the ball for new coach John Fox. Cutler admits it means little for the regular season. "Camp’s camp," Cutler said. "We’re not getting hit. These aren’t live bullets. So we’ll see what happens when we start going." Cutler's leash will be much shorter than his contract dictates this season.
Source: Chicago Tribune
Marcus Mariota and Geno Smith have gotten more attention for their INT-free streaks, but Smokin' Jay has been careful with the ball for new coach John Fox. Cutler admits it means little for the regular season. "Camp’s camp," Cutler said. "We’re not getting hit. These aren’t live bullets. So we’ll see what happens when we start going." Cutler's leash will be much shorter than his contract dictates this season.
Source: Chicago Tribune
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Is anything going well for Chicago?
Willie Young is listed as a third-team outside linebacker on the Bears' initial training camp depth chart.
The switch from a 4-3 to a 3-4 isn't going well for Young, and he may be on the trade block in Chicago following an impressive 10-sack season. Despite blowing out his Achilles' in Week 16, Young avoided active/PUP to open camp. There would be no shortage of interested teams should he hit the market.
Willie Young is listed as a third-team outside linebacker on the Bears' initial training camp depth chart.
The switch from a 4-3 to a 3-4 isn't going well for Young, and he may be on the trade block in Chicago following an impressive 10-sack season. Despite blowing out his Achilles' in Week 16, Young avoided active/PUP to open camp. There would be no shortage of interested teams should he hit the market.
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Bears rookie WR Kevin White (shin) insisted Friday that he is not dealing with a stress fracture.
The Bears seem to be pushing that White's injury is only a severe case of shin splits, even though it's lingered on for over six weeks. A stress fracture would've been the worst case scenario. Still, this seems like an injury White could continue to battle into the season, even if he's active on game days. We're continuing to shy away from White as more than a WR4/5.
Source: Rich Campbell on Twitter
The Bears seem to be pushing that White's injury is only a severe case of shin splits, even though it's lingered on for over six weeks. A stress fracture would've been the worst case scenario. Still, this seems like an injury White could continue to battle into the season, even if he's active on game days. We're continuing to shy away from White as more than a WR4/5.
Source: Rich Campbell on Twitter
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Bears rookie WR Kevin White needs surgery to repair a stress fracture in his shin.
White will begin the season on the reserve/PUP list, costing him at least the first six games of year. There is a possibility he could miss the entire season. The Bears had been adamant White was not dealing with a stress fracture, but they decided he needed surgery after suffering a setback last week. White cannot be considered anything more than a late flier in the deepest of redraft leagues.
Source: Rich Campbell on Twitter
White will begin the season on the reserve/PUP list, costing him at least the first six games of year. There is a possibility he could miss the entire season. The Bears had been adamant White was not dealing with a stress fracture, but they decided he needed surgery after suffering a setback last week. White cannot be considered anything more than a late flier in the deepest of redraft leagues.
Source: Rich Campbell on Twitter
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Jeremy Langford powered his way to 80 yards on nine carries in Saturday's preseason win against the Colts.
Langford got a head of steam going on a 46-yard dash in the third quarter, nearly taking it all the way. Later in the quarter, he broke two tackles on his way to a gorgeous two-yard touchdown. The fourth-round pick showed nice vision Saturday and was patient in waiting for his holes to open up. It's a big improvement from last week when Langford totaled one yard on four carries in a win against the Dolphins.
Langford got a head of steam going on a 46-yard dash in the third quarter, nearly taking it all the way. Later in the quarter, he broke two tackles on his way to a gorgeous two-yard touchdown. The fourth-round pick showed nice vision Saturday and was patient in waiting for his holes to open up. It's a big improvement from last week when Langford totaled one yard on four carries in a win against the Dolphins.
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Bears first-round pick Kevin White underwent surgery Sunday to repair the stress fracture in his left shin.
The Bears have openly acknowledged that White's injury could cost him his entire rookie year. At minimum, White will miss the first six games on the reserve/PUP list. The team still has not provided a concrete return timetable.
Source: Jeff Dickerson on Twitter
The Bears have openly acknowledged that White's injury could cost him his entire rookie year. At minimum, White will miss the first six games on the reserve/PUP list. The team still has not provided a concrete return timetable.
Source: Jeff Dickerson on Twitter
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ESPN's Dianna Marie Russini reports the Bears are "looking to unload players that don't fit their scheme" who are left over from the previous regime.
ESPN Bears reporter Jeff Dickerson mentioned Matt Forte and Alshon Jeffery as players GM Ryan Pace should explore trading next after shipping DE Jared Allen to Carolina on Monday. There's little chance the Bears trade Jeffery; at least, we don't think Pace is that stupid. Jeffery is making near-minimum, and even though he's scheduled to be a free agent next spring, he's an ideal candidate for the franchise tag if there's no extension. Forte makes more sense. He'll be 30 in December, is in the final year of his contract, and would make for a prime sell-high candidate. Martellus Bennett could also generate some interest.
Source: Dianna Marie Russini on Twitter
ESPN Bears reporter Jeff Dickerson mentioned Matt Forte and Alshon Jeffery as players GM Ryan Pace should explore trading next after shipping DE Jared Allen to Carolina on Monday. There's little chance the Bears trade Jeffery; at least, we don't think Pace is that stupid. Jeffery is making near-minimum, and even though he's scheduled to be a free agent next spring, he's an ideal candidate for the franchise tag if there's no extension. Forte makes more sense. He'll be 30 in December, is in the final year of his contract, and would make for a prime sell-high candidate. Martellus Bennett could also generate some interest.
Source: Dianna Marie Russini on Twitter
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Indeed. They had the look of a 3-13 team in preseason. Then the "fire sale" period a couple weeks ago portended a 3-13 season. But they've been resilient.
JTW3553
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I like everything the back office has done to date.
Pace is an astute GM and heres hoping he is still there in 10 years as I think we can really build something. The past draft looks to be a good one, we are starting to get younger (and better) and Pace has cleaned out the distractors in the locker room.
Fox is a good hire, just for stability in the next few years while we try to build a roster, if we can keep Gase next year, it might make sense to offer him the HC role at the end of next season.
Cutler will be staying, as there is no better alternative out there. He's middle of the pack QB but that's better than a lot of other teams and his play this year under Gase has been better (and his body language).
This offseason will be intriguing. They need to pay Jeffrey (or tag him at worst). Forte..is he now expendable? - teams think they can find a running back anywhere now and Langford was impressive Monday night. Will they move Long to LT?
I still haven't given up on this year - Our schedule gets softer after the next 3 weeks - Very Optimistic I know - but as long as we keep building, stay competitive and Pace/Fox continue to create a healthy locker room....my nightmares of the Emery/Trestman era may quietly subside.
GO BEARS!
Pace is an astute GM and heres hoping he is still there in 10 years as I think we can really build something. The past draft looks to be a good one, we are starting to get younger (and better) and Pace has cleaned out the distractors in the locker room.
Fox is a good hire, just for stability in the next few years while we try to build a roster, if we can keep Gase next year, it might make sense to offer him the HC role at the end of next season.
Cutler will be staying, as there is no better alternative out there. He's middle of the pack QB but that's better than a lot of other teams and his play this year under Gase has been better (and his body language).
This offseason will be intriguing. They need to pay Jeffrey (or tag him at worst). Forte..is he now expendable? - teams think they can find a running back anywhere now and Langford was impressive Monday night. Will they move Long to LT?
I still haven't given up on this year - Our schedule gets softer after the next 3 weeks - Very Optimistic I know - but as long as we keep building, stay competitive and Pace/Fox continue to create a healthy locker room....my nightmares of the Emery/Trestman era may quietly subside.
GO BEARS!
Stoopid chokers.
