News Clarkson news, media etc - he’s off into the Sunset!

[Strapping Young Lad]

Full Presser at the link below.

 

[offtherails9]

Go Hawks. Love this club. We have been so lucky to have Alastair.

 

[Bugs1977]

Footage of Caro right now… don't be Caro

 

[Hodgey 15]

And they've used the word "mediation" in this tweet when Clarko alluded to the fact it wasn't really but part of there continuing conversations.

Here's the quote from the article:
“(That was) the mistake Mitch and I made in hindsight in the haste of trying to keep things as normal as we possibly could.

“What it created were little silos, in a sense… there’s just so much grey area between those silos.

“All this talk around ‘mediation…’ I meet with Mitch every day, I did so again this morning, I did yesterday."

And further on:
“This supposed mediation session… we had Ray there to help us navigate through what we were going to do,” Clarkson added.

 

[Roddy]

The way I'm reading this now is this: they are moving into uncharted territory a little now, so there's been a little (completely understandable) tension and a few rocky moments here and there along the way, and there will probably continue to be for a while, it's just that the clickbait-desperate media has blown the tension way, way out of proportion for a 'story' that is probably barely there.

Anyone else reading it the same? Or different?

 

[Carl Spackler]

Pretty sure he said the same when first announced. I'm not sure why anyone keeps questioning what Clarko says. People want to read into things as much as the media feeds this. But still the story hasnt changed. Oh but he will coach th Blues next year.

Why doubt Clarko? Because he's simultaneously the genius heart of the club and unable to stand-up to the Kennett.

 

[TylerDurden]

The way I'm reading this now is this: they are moving into uncharted territory a little now, so there's been a little (completely understandable) tension and a few rocky moments here and there along the way, and there will probably continue to be for a while, it's just that the clickbait-desperate media has blown the tension way, way out of proportion for a 'story' that is probably barely there.

Anyone else reading it the same? Or different?

Clarko wants control of the list decisions. How can you not as senior coach??

 

[deanc]

While I suspect this nonsense will generally be an ongoing media topic until Clarko is sitting in our coaches box round 1 next season, the media buffoons will only back off when their ratings and/or clicks start to dissipate - which will either coincide when non-Hawthorn fans start calling SEN complaining these narratives are now getting very tiresome and/or the Hawks beat the Crows this weekend and/or any other remaining H&A games....

 

[The Jet From Poowong]

The way I'm reading this now is this: they are moving into uncharted territory a little now, so there's been a little (completely understandable) tension and a few rocky moments here and there along the way, and there will probably continue to be for a while, it's just that the clickbait-desperate media has blown the tension way, way out of proportion for a 'story' that is probably barely there.

Anyone else reading it the same? Or different?

The hyper overblown stuff goes without saying. The genuine and deliberate attempt to destabilise the club is real.

 

[Hodginator]

Actually looking forward to how the likes of Caro, McClure, Cornes, Morris respond to this. Either a back paddle that “obviously things have changed” or a double down which ends up making them look less credible.

Either way, will be enjoyable.

 

[MrPremiership]

Will Caro warn/threaten Mitchell again?

 

[The Jet From Poowong]

Why doubt Clarko? Because he's simultaneously the genius heart of the club and unable to stand-up to the Kennett.

What?

not sure I follow your logic here.

my point was that everything that every person representing Hawthorn has said in recent weeks has been the same message. Nothing has changed. Only the flip flopping inaccuracies of media has changed. Tell me how this is inaccurate?

the decision that Clarkson will not be coach is done and dusted. Whether you or I agree with it means little now. It’s about what happens now in the transition.

 

[Roddy]

The hyper overblown stuff goes without saying. The genuine and deliberate attempt to destabilise the club is real.

Do you mean, on the part of the media, or from within?

 

[The Jet From Poowong]

I have a general question on admin employees of the Club. I assume they don’t have to be Hawthorn supporters.

so what if the comms/media dept was a source of leaking info because there are people there that are not hawk tragics. Is there anything in their employment contracts over and above the general professional ethics to prevent foul play

 

[Carl Spackler]

What?

not sure I follow your logic here.

my point was that everything that every person representing Hawthorn has said in recent weeks has been the same message. Nothing has changed. Only the flip flopping inaccuracies of media has changed. Tell me how this is inaccurate?

the decision that Clarkson will not be coach is done and dusted. Whether you or I agree with it means little now. It’s about what happens now in the transition.

I was supporting your point with poorly delivered sarcasm. The media can only be accurate if Clarkson, Mitchell, Kennett and everyone else who has spoken on this says the exact opposite in private to what they say in public. Clarkson because he's a gullible rube. Mitchell because he's an untrustworthy conniver. And Kennett because he's a Machiavellian psychopath.

 

[JoondalupJ]

Heard from a club insider that Clarko had a longstanding plan to leave after his current contract. If that’s true it explains a lot. It’s a view that some have shared publicly but hasn’t seemed to have gained any traction. Is that because true or false, it ends the speculation and the clicks?

I understand there was a long term plan, and when Sam moved to Eagles it was understood that it was a part of the experience plan. Now we have all got pretty frustrated by how this last 2 to 3 weeks, the plan has not been executed properly because it appears that the refusal to do the Collingwood interview, (the interview is not the problem, the refusal was the start of the problem publicly)

I believe now that Sam and Clarko were in a spot.
I am trying to hope that Sam didn't broadcast the thing that had Clarko asking for clarity.

Clarko apparently called for clarafication?
And what that means is the club told him the bad news.

He may have already known the change time, but it happened badly, and succession plans are so flawed, and next year if Clarko wanted to leave, end of 2022 so be it.

But with no coaching influence at all from Sam , stay at Box Hill learn more until the Main Man is done, or coach somewhere else.
We should be giving the best coach going around for 40 years, a SUPER coach , a last one year as top dog!

Or last three years, which I 'd prefer, 3 more years for a shot at the flag.

That is the way I saw it watching reading and listening, that Clarko would choose his time.

But this out of the blue meeting(s) ???? have got the early deciders out of their box and rounding on a decision that not all members are pleased with.
That and the stupid succession plan, those things are killers. Should never happen!

Should always interview for new jobs, we don't know anything about Sam as a Senior Coach, he will get the job , but this shouldn't have happened.
Which ever way you want to look at it, I feel ashamed of my club right now, because one very special person (whether showing it or not) has been hurt!!!!

 

[The Jet From Poowong]

Do you mean, on the part of the media, or from within?

External. Media.
Some internally may have had indifferences but I simply refuse to believe they would drag the whole club through the mud allowing external parasites to dictate outcomes

are you suggesting there is strong internal self inflicting destabilisation. If so, they won’t be at the club for too long

 

[Roddy]

External. Media.
Some internally may have had indifferences but I simply refuse to believe they would drag the whole club through the mud allowing external parasites to dictate outcomes

are you suggesting there is strong internal self inflicting destabilisation. If so, they won’t be at the club for too long

Read my OP, therein lies your answer to that.

 

[matey]

Like Clarko said today and no different in my life whether it’s in a marriage, relationship, family, friends, work colleague, business partner at times there is tension and disagreement but you work through it and at the end of the day things align. It never ever is always smooth sailing.

Clarko talked about a few things over a number of years from his family, players, coaches, the club ........ it was uplifting. And the way Sammy has given Clarko so much over the years that contributed to his and the clubs success ...... it’s time to give it back to Sammy and will support him absolutely. What a legend.

What pees me off with individuals like Caro, news always has to be negative, scandalous with aggro. Can’t she report that Clarko’s press today was classy and that the Hawks are lucky to have him and is still giving it his all? If she was my next door neighbour I would be lobbing my dogs poo over the fence and personally I always keep away from people who are that negative and grumpy in life. Bet you she has quickly got her note pad out today coming up, and making up a storey on how to respond to Clarko. They are a bunch of vultures!

 

[The Jet From Poowong]

Read my OP, therein lies your answer to that.

Where is the Op you are referring to..page#?

edit. is this what you meant - so you agree its media driven

The way I'm reading this now is this: they are moving into uncharted territory a little now, so there's been a little (completely understandable) tension and a few rocky moments here and there along the way, and there will probably continue to be for a while, it's just that the clickbait-desperate media has blown the tension way, way out of proportion for a 'story' that is probably barely there.

Anyone else reading it the same? Or different?

 

[Rocket72]

At the Hawks or elsewhere?

I’m not sure where. Seems pretty likely that he’s not going to go into another coaching role when he’s leaving this one to reduce work time and create more family time. I reckon the winner will be the group offering him a plumb role that has core hours

 

[KermitJagger]

Do you mean, on the part of the media, or from within?

It's the media. This isn't Hawks supporter paranoia, I tend to stay out of these conversations, but the football media do make an effort to create stories with certain clubs who don't give them the access they'd like. They don't like Hawthorn because we give them very little, so any story where it seems Hawthorn may be crumbling or leaking information is the white wale in a sense.

I've no doubt that there is some truth, as much as there would obviously be some friction between characters like Clarko and Mitch, but I imagine it is intentionally overblown to get a reaction they can point at and say "the cracks are forming".

 

[HODGEYROAD]

So is everyone feeling more at ease after the Clarko interview today ?

 

[JoondalupJ]

I was supporting your point with poorly delivered sarcasm. The media can only be accurate if Clarkson, Mitchell, Kennett and everyone else who has spoken on this says the exact opposite in private to what they say in public. Clarkson because he's a gullible rube. Mitchell because he's an untrustworthy conniver. And Kennett because he's a Machiavellian psychopath.

All perfectly possible, but the one before you, saying it done its dusted it happening, I say to that= this, the way it has been handled has dropped my opinion of my club right at this point of time. And I am a long long long term follower , Even Schwabby had the then Presidents arm around his shoulders when it was over, I feel Alastair's been sacked! What you may say?? Maybe wrong, thats how it looks! And I'm dumbfounded!

 

[Mercy Seat]

The way I'm reading this now is this: they are moving into uncharted territory a little now, so there's been a little (completely understandable) tension and a few rocky moments here and there along the way, and there will probably continue to be for a while, it's just that the clickbait-desperate media has blown the tension way, way out of proportion for a 'story' that is probably barely there.

Anyone else reading it the same? Or different?

I would say that sounds about right.

But it doesn't explain all the leaks which I think has more to do the supposed fallout between Reeves and Clarko, and certain people at the club not happy that he didn't walk.

But so be it, hopefully things can die down for a bit. The Clarko / Mitchell tensions always sounded greatly exaggerated.

 

[MrPremiership]

So is everyone feeling more at ease after the Clarko interview today ?

Ignoring the media, all the statements, interviews and pressers from the Club, Clarko and Sam have been strong and emphatic.