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It's 5 years an we've barely scratched the surface of this rebuild though that's the thing, we're still minimum 3 years away from playing finals. Would you feel better about Clarkson departing if he stayed for 2023 and 2024 also and then it was a a 9 year sample size without a finals win ?
But its not!
 
Clearly people in the know believe Mitchell will be a great coach.
Clarkson and Hawthorn are obviously of that view.
The interesting dynamic was it when it came to the captaincy Clarkson and the club were prepared to move Sam on and replace him with Hodge. This was clearly the correct move.
And now essentially the same people are choosing and Sam Mitchell as coach.

Also as reported in the Age on Tuesday that Graham Wright and Clarkson fell out last year in lockdown. And that clearly lead to Wright moving to Collingwood.

Wright was responsible for finishing Buckley's tenure. And the first person he approached as a potential coach was Sam Mitchell. Wright also clearly has an informed and great opinion of Sam's potential.

I love Clarkson and he is clearly the best coach in the competition. What he did will never be forgotten.

I think the board have done a tremendous job in getting us into the position we will now be coached by Sam. As Kennett said in the press conference, these are very difficult decisions. And they clearly understand the ramifications.

The Club hasn't and will not fall apart and just as importantly I feel will be well received by the players.

Just look what happened to Essendon.The funny thing about this is reading the hubris pumped out by Slobbo and seeing his hatred of Hawthorn Clarkson and his schadenfreude belch to the surface.
 
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4 flags in 17 years whilst clubs haven’t even won 1. Some for decades and you’re complaining about the last three years. Come jump back on the wagon when the teams up there again sounds like what you’re good at.

Back into the wagon? What wagon are you on? You’re standing on the sidelines screaming at the clouds and shaking your fist wildly. Entertaining, I admit, but the only wagon you’re on is the Emotion-Fueled Outrage Express.
 

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Interesting! I hate how some people like to pigeon hole others (and by implication elevate themselves in the process) but for what it is worth I would have described my supporter type as being a process and principle driven supporter. If you give loyalty you get loyalty back. Loyalty is not blind.

Loyalty isn’t a process.
 
Ooh poor dear soul, you long suffering Faux fanbase supporter. 😂😂😂👌

2-3 years of long suffering have you? ,???
Those are the comments that make Hawks fans weak and fair weathered and f#cks me off!!! 👎

Teams on a rebuild will play Crapola football and not win many games and Clarkson has always past 2 years new where we are heading and never made excuses for our sh*t efforts.

Remember this matey, Clarkson is the best coach in the Afl by a mile and don't forget that and the "rest of the coaches are Not good enough to tie up his shoes laces".

You deserve to join our current board who are Faux and no integrity. For example on national radio they inform All listeners that Hawks coaching will be dealt with end of year.

But but sh*t their pants and act on what is going on with the tragedy manifesting at Pieland. 🙄

Remember this Kennet, the current board and yourself suffering from bias towards Ageism.

For Example,
1)WTFMr. F#cken Kennet put a tenure on President to serve no more than 6 years!!!!

22)WTF No Hawks player over 30 will be given more than one year deals. Out the door Hodge, Mitchell and Lewis goes. So this backfires and they realise a mistake and currently again just last year start offering again 2 or 3 year deals to players over 30 realise they made a F#cken mistake!!
Maybe if we kept hodges and Mitchell

3) WTF: our Best coach in the history of our club at 53 years young and his contract not extended.

At least Clarko had the balls to confront our pussy board and knew in the best interests of the club to sort this matter out due to mince pies saga.

Our board didn't have the guts to confront Clarkson to say your dropped and we are going to leave you for a younger bloke😭😭😭😭😭.

So show respect and gratitude to the Master Coach who fu**en had the balls and guts to sort this out.

Thank him!! ,
Clarkson that Mitchell has been appointed the successor due to Clarkson Pro active action. (You know let's sort this thing out now and don't leave Sam and me hanging on) !!!!

WTF: Unshelfish actions and you #fu**en talk about and post about his "Accountability "and Clarkson not displaying these behaviours.

Our current pansy b*tch fu**en board with not integrity and character to take a proactive action have NFI

Your messed up in the head as the current Prez🤣🤣😁


F#cken ungrateful fu**#cken supporters as your self F#uck get me angry 😡😡😡😡

ADM
❤ Age Doesn't Matter 💋

Only the true grit characters stay and remains strong 💪💪💪💪💪💪💪

Now! Kennet and your poor long suffering sissy soul can move on and GTFO!!!👍

Haaaaa haaaaa! 2 fu**en years kong suffering supporter you are😭😭😭😭😭😭

Nice melt. Add some tuna and make it a toastie.
 
The interesting dynamic was it when it came to the captaincy Clarkson and the club were prepared to move Sam on and replace him with Hodge. This was clearly the correct move.

I’ve seen a few people raise this and I think the leadership of captaincy and coaching is a very, very different beast. It’s also been 12 years since Mitchell handed over the club captaincy and I’m sure he’s matured and developed as a human since then - in addition to being a qualified coach now in his own right and he’ll have 6 years of apprenticeship by the time he takes over, most of it under Clarko which the last 5 premierships tell us is a decent way to learn the trade.

Clarko, Dimma, Scott and Longmire and Fagan are probably the upper echelon of coaches in the league at present and none of them ever captained an AFL team also. So I can see why Mitchell’s captaincy tenure might raise questions about his leadership but I think in the bigger picture it’s really not much of an issue.
 
Whilst, like Jason Dunstall, I believe sacking Clarkson for Mitchell was a brave decision, I accept the decision and look forward to watching Sam coaching during our rebuild.
What I am very doubtful about is the succession plan which appears fraught with danger having two strong personalities sharing decision making and communicating with the troops. It may work but it may also implode.

Finally it astounds me that some seem to believe that Clarkson will not end up coaching another AFL club sooner or later. Clarkson is the best qualified coach around, and at his age he still has a lot to offer. Unless he decides to take a sabbatical and smell the roses for a while he will start coaching sooner. Coaching is his passion and I wish him well in whatever he chooses.

For what it is worth, every Hawthorn premiership coach has coached another Club when they were moved on. Clarko will be no different.

Kennedy. North Melbourne
Parkin. Carlton/Fitzroy
Jeans. Richmond
Joyce Footscray
Clarkson. ?????????
 
This thread is an intersting windown into society and those with strong, insular thoughts.

What if, as the Monty Python crew once said, Clarkson wasn't the messiah but just a naughty boy?

So this is Kennets unedited news conference below????

 
Ooh poor dear soul, you long suffering Faux fanbase supporter. 😂😂😂👌

2-3 years of long suffering have you? ,???
Those are the comments that make Hawks fans weak and fair weathered and f#cks me off!!! 👎

Teams on a rebuild will play Crapola football and not win many games and Clarkson has always past 2 years new where we are heading and never made excuses for our sh*t efforts.

Remember this matey, Clarkson is the best coach in the Afl by a mile and don't forget that and the "rest of the coaches are Not good enough to tie up his shoes laces".

You deserve to join our current board who are Faux and no integrity. For example on national radio they inform All listeners that Hawks coaching will be dealt with end of year.

But but sh*t their pants and act on what is going on with the tragedy manifesting at Pieland. 🙄

Remember this Kennet, the current board and yourself suffering from bias towards Ageism.

For Example,
1)WTFMr. F#cken Kennet put a tenure on President to serve no more than 6 years!!!!

22)WTF No Hawks player over 30 will be given more than one year deals. Out the door Hodge, Mitchell and Lewis goes. So this backfires and they realise a mistake and currently again just last year start offering again 2 or 3 year deals to players over 30 realise they made a F#cken mistake!!
Maybe if we kept hodges and Mitchell

3) WTF: our Best coach in the history of our club at 53 years young and his contract not extended.

At least Clarko had the balls to confront our pussy board and knew in the best interests of the club to sort this matter out due to mince pies saga.

Our board didn't have the guts to confront Clarkson to say your dropped and we are going to leave you for a younger bloke😭😭😭😭😭.

So show respect and gratitude to the Master Coach who fu**en had the balls and guts to sort this out.

Thank him!! ,
Clarkson that Mitchell has been appointed the successor due to Clarkson Pro active action. (You know let's sort this thing out now and don't leave Sam and me hanging on) !!!!

WTF: Unshelfish actions and you #fu**en talk about and post about his "Accountability "and Clarkson not displaying these behaviours.

Our current pansy b*tch fu**en board with not integrity and character to take a proactive action have NFI

Your messed up in the head as the current Prez🤣🤣😁


F#cken ungrateful fu**#cken supporters as your self F#uck get me angry 😡😡😡😡

ADM
❤ Age Doesn't Matter 💋

Only the true grit characters stay and remains strong 💪💪💪💪💪💪💪

Now! Kennet and your poor long suffering sissy soul can move on and GTFO!!!👍

Haaaaa haaaaa! 2 fu**en years kong suffering supporter you are😭😭😭😭😭😭

5.37am... Thursday.... largely incoherent rant...

Fair ****ing session mate.
 
‘if we are looking at other clubs for example, the succession between Malthouse and Buckley had a lot of downside. hawks situation may be cleaner inside, and of course kennet does not have an unhealthy admiration for mitchell.

but it will be messy in the media. Get used to that fact
Yeah they will post a picture of Sam looking all chipper at a media conference and Clarko looking downcast and spin some doomsday scenario or photograph them with their backs turned on each other at training and make something out of that etc.

The modern media really are grubs. They have entered the domain that used to be dominated by used car salesmen, defence lawyers and assumed the number one mantle imo.

Apologies to any used car salesman or lawyers on here just making a point and you support Hawthorn so that eliminates you from the pool in any event.;)
 
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Malthouse agrees, complete failure. Now all we need is David King to weigh in and we'll know this is the greatest coaching move of all time.

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Difference is Malthouse never wanted to leave. Clarko has intimated in his press conference the time is right for him to consider his life options at the end of next season. Clarko will do everything it takes to hand the list over to Sam in good shape. Its how the bloke rolls.
 
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The entire “Collingwood succession plan didn’t work, so Mitchell and Clarkson are doomed to fail too!” Argument is as dumb as the “Tom Mitchell broke his leg and will struggle to come back from it, because I broke my leg once and it’s never been the same since”.

Different inputs, different people, different environments. It’s just a really lazy comparison, with very little in common.
 
If he’s going to get all the credit for the flags he also needs to take the blame for the garbage the team has served up over the last two years. The same lame excuses he trots out after each loss will no longer cut it. No other coach would have been as unaccountable as Clarko has.
I’m not sure it was the right decision, but let not kid ourselves that he’s the best coach in the AFL anymore because he clearly isn’t.


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This is the dumbest post I have ever read on here, and thats saying something.
 
Ooh poor dear soul, you long suffering Faux fanbase supporter. 😂😂😂👌

2-3 years of long suffering have you? ,???
Those are the comments that make Hawks fans weak and fair weathered and f#cks me off!!! 👎

Teams on a rebuild will play Crapola football and not win many games and Clarkson has always past 2 years new where we are heading and never made excuses for our sh*t efforts.

Remember this matey, Clarkson is the best coach in the Afl by a mile and don't forget that and the "rest of the coaches are Not good enough to tie up his shoes laces".

You deserve to join our current board who are Faux and no integrity. For example on national radio they inform All listeners that Hawks coaching will be dealt with end of year.

But but sh*t their pants and act on what is going on with the tragedy manifesting at Pieland. 🙄

Remember this Kennet, the current board and yourself suffering from bias towards Ageism.

For Example,
1)WTFMr. F#cken Kennet put a tenure on President to serve no more than 6 years!!!!

22)WTF No Hawks player over 30 will be given more than one year deals. Out the door Hodge, Mitchell and Lewis goes. So this backfires and they realise a mistake and currently again just last year start offering again 2 or 3 year deals to players over 30 realise they made a F#cken mistake!!
Maybe if we kept hodges and Mitchell

3) WTF: our Best coach in the history of our club at 53 years young and his contract not extended.

At least Clarko had the balls to confront our pussy board and knew in the best interests of the club to sort this matter out due to mince pies saga.

Our board didn't have the guts to confront Clarkson to say your dropped and we are going to leave you for a younger bloke😭😭😭😭😭.

So show respect and gratitude to the Master Coach who fu**en had the balls and guts to sort this out.

Thank him!! ,
Clarkson that Mitchell has been appointed the successor due to Clarkson Pro active action. (You know let's sort this thing out now and don't leave Sam and me hanging on) !!!!

WTF: Unshelfish actions and you #fu**en talk about and post about his "Accountability "and Clarkson not displaying these behaviours.

Our current pansy b*tch fu**en board with not integrity and character to take a proactive action have NFI

Your messed up in the head as the current Prez🤣🤣😁


F#cken ungrateful fu**#cken supporters as your self F#uck get me angry 😡😡😡😡

ADM
❤ Age Doesn't Matter 💋

Only the true grit characters stay and remains strong 💪💪💪💪💪💪💪

Now! Kennet and your poor long suffering sissy soul can move on and GTFO!!!👍

Haaaaa haaaaa! 2 fu**en years kong suffering supporter you are😭😭😭😭😭😭

What else you up to on school holidays?
 
Difference is Malthouse never wanted to leave. Clarko has intimidated in his press conference the time is right for him to consider his life options at the end of next season. Clarko will do everything it takes to hand the list over to Sam in good shape. Its how the bloke rolls.

No, no. You're listening to the things Clarko said in the press conference - you're meant to draw inferences from the things he didn't say.
 
We have to rebuild because we were so successful. Why were we so successful? Largely because of Clarkson.

I'm a Clarko supporter and he is unparalleled in modern times. However, his success also could be a major contributor to our current state.

Emboldened by success and wanting more, Clarko has gone the top up route in the last 5 years and is it clearly hasn't worked.
He has to own that; and in reality, it has set the club back 5 years. It was a gamble at the time and it failed.

His record has let him off the hook somewhat and at some stage, time comes for everyone.

One of the club's strengths over the last number of decades has been setting long term plans. If they look fwd to 10 years time, which great clubs always do, Clarko can't really be in the plans. If not now when we are rock bottom, then when do we push on to the future.

If he stands by his word, and the Hawks turn the corner by the end of next year and then Clarko hands over the reins to Mitch with the team in good shape with a bright future, his standing in the history of the game would go up even further.

Imagine a great send off at the end of 2022, R 23 as Clarko farewells the faithful at the MCG v an arch rival like Geelong or Essendon. Huge.
 
Fantastic post tbh.

The guy is a GIANT of our club. We need to treat Clarkson with the immense respect he deserves. However, that doesn't mean let him go at the end of the year. Please, no more freebies to other clubs. It's in our best interests for him to serve as coach in 2022 so lets make that happen. Collingwood and other opportunities are secondary to the needs of the Hawthorn Football Club. We've been far too generous giving away our players. (For example, watching two of the best wingman in the last 30 years running around for other clubs is extremely frustrating.) Lets not make that mistake again.
 
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