Clarkson Re-Signs

[Burzum]

Well deserved.

Best coach in the league.

 

[H2F]

Well deserved.

Best coach in the league.

Best poster on BigFooty

 

[BW]

You North Melbourne muppets just cannot help yourselves.

Good luck with both your fight for survival and your battle to play finals football this season.

Hawthorn, under Clarkson is a model that you would do well to try and replicate. In being critical you are defining the very difference between our two football clubs.

It's called constructive critisism, something you would understand if you understood my posts. If you did that you'd see I'm quite supportive of Clarkson.

I feel genuinely sorry for the decent Hawthorn supporters on here who are getting their names tarnished by the Hawthorn supporters who are being continually precious over a finals loss and the Lewis-Pratt incident by bringing such things up in totally unrelated topics.

 

[rangermcdee]

that you did, I remember it

A couple of Power Posters also stuck up for me when I was the Lone Ranger luvin the bloke.

Thanks MD, Elvis and others with a brain in here.

Sir, you are not the lone ranger at Hawthorn....

Also as a CDFC supporter (The result of an Adelaide upbringing) I had complete faith in Clarko. Although I might not be able to back it up with quotes from this board.

Either way, a well deserved reward for a coach that has gotten part of the job done. To not be there to try and finish it would be an affront to natural justice.

 

[pazza]

Good work Hawks.

Guess that means Matthews will never coach them.

 

[Burzum]

Best poster on BigFooty

 

[Dixie Flatline]

The next 3 years (end of this year & 09-10) is when you will really get to judge him. Trading picks, heavily recruiting in youth and developing obviously talented kids into a decent yet not finals proven football side is the reletively easy part. Consistently playing and winning finals including premierships is the part he will be ultimantly judged on.

Whether he's the man to take Hawthorn from where they are now to a premiership team remains to be seen, that is fact. He absolutely warrants the opportunity to have the chance to do it though. I just think locking him in for the next 3 and a half years is unnecessary when you could lock him in for 2 and a half more, and just renew his contract if hes flying mid-2010.

I can see your point, but the issue is that if the Hawks are flying in 2010 and Clarkson is out of contract at the end of the season, then there'll be a queue of clubs desperate to sound him out to take on the responsibility of coaching their lists in the same way he's coached Hawthorn. Even if he choses to remain with the Hawks, it may well drive up his price.

This way, he has the tangible protection of a three year contract which signifies the support from the Hawthorn board that he's meeting their KPIs and that they have the confidence in him to continue meeting their KPIs. As I said, under the days of Peter Schwab, the club wasn't anywhere near as professional about this as they are now. To a large extent, Clarkson himself has driven the reforms to the administration of the club (in conjunction with first Jason Dunstall and now Ian Robson), so the manner in which the re-signing of Clarkson by the Hawks is a reflection of the manner in which the club now operates.

 

[King Elvis]

It may have made him a target in the media, but the way he went in to bat for Vandenberg last year was sensational - the media don't like it, but having the guts to stand up to them and defend your players; I bet the Hawks playing group would've walked through fire for him.

 

[CyberKev]

Congrats to Clarko.

The only coach (with the possible exception of Grant Thomas) not to be afforded a honeymoon period by the media and great unwashed when first signed back in 2004.

Took a hammering from all and sundry in the early days and was routinely dismissed as a struggling seat warmer across 2005-06.

I remember how keen he was to coach the side when others weren't (the club just wasn't sexy enough and it was all too hard).

He's having a good crack and deserves more time with this playing group.

 

[BW]

I can see your point, but the issue is that if the Hawks are flying in 2010 and Clarkson is out of contract at the end of the season, then there'll be a queue of clubs desperate to sound him out to take on the responsibility of coaching their lists in the same way he's coached Hawthorn. Even if he choses to remain with the Hawks, it may well drive up his price.

I can understand that 3 years makes him feel more secure and gives him a bit more freedom to do what he wants, but he could also get casual about having his long term future secure. If the Hawks are flying, why would Clarkson want to leave? Renew him for 3 years then on the back of continual finals success. You'll be pushing 40,000 members by then if you're flying, so extra cash is hardly an issue.

If Hawthorn only make a prelim this year, or worse, and then stall in both 2009 & 2010, would you want him as coach in 2011 if a proven premiership gun coach who ticks all the right boxes is available?

You no longer have that option.

 

[H2F]

It may have made him a target in the media, but the way he went in to bat for Vandenberg last year was sensational - the media don't like it, but having the guts to stand up to them and defend your players; I bet the Hawks playing group would've walked through fire for him.

that would have gone over the head of most, but top post and one of the many reasons behind our rise from gimps to a contender.

 

[*PAF]

Never in doubt.
Bailey will also do a good job at Melbourne.

 

[cs61]

I can understand that 3 years makes him feel more secure and gives him a bit more freedom to do what he wants, but he could also get casual about having his long term future secure. If the Hawks are flying, why would Clarkson want to leave? Renew him for 3 years then on the back of continual finals success. You'll be pushing 40,000 members by then if you're flying, so extra cash is hardly an issue.

If Hawthorn only make a prelim this year, or worse, and then stall in both 2009 & 2010, would you want him as coach in 2011 if a proven premiership gun coach who ticks all the right boxes is available?

You no longer have that option.

Seriously, 3 years was suitable, without doubt.

Gives him the knowledge that he's got 3 years to have a red hot crack at the flag, he's deserved that chance.

Its a stupid argument, because you are just basing your argument about "what if the wheels fall off", when that can happen to any coach or player who gets offered a three year contract. That doesn't mean they didn't deserve to be offered it, or it wasn't the right move at the time.

 

[Hawks1523]

I can understand that 3 years makes him feel more secure and gives him a bit more freedom to do what he wants, but he could also get casual about having his long term future secure. If the Hawks are flying, why would Clarkson want to leave? Renew him for 3 years then on the back of continual finals success. You'll be pushing 40,000 members by then if you're flying, so extra cash is hardly an issue.

If Hawthorn only make a prelim this year, or worse, and then stall in both 2009 & 2010, would you want him as coach in 2011 if a proven premiership gun coach who ticks all the right boxes is available?

You no longer have that option.

We already are pushing the 40k mark. Being at 38 - 39,000 members.

Under Clarkson our clubs improved every year from celler dwellers to out first final appearance in 6 years in 2007. All indicators point to he's doing something right. He's obviously meeting expectations set out by himself and the board at the beggining of the contracts and this year, so the three year contract was warranted. Now if we'd offered him 4 or 5 we can have the discussion of offering too long a contract. 3 years is suitable, there are many what ifs in your argument. What if we're riddled with injury to Hodge, Mitchelle, Sewell, Birchall, Franklin, Roughead, Williams, Brow, Croad. No way will we be up there if these guys get injured, is that the coaches issue, therefore he shouldn't be given years due to pure pot luck and fitness levels of the players.

I think 2 wasn't enough, and anymore then 3 would be too many years.

 

[Legendary_No.19]

Why shouldn't he have 3 years to have a go at getting us our 10th premiership? After all the current Hawthorn side is the one Clarko has build over the last 4 years so its only fair.

 

[Fastback]

I can understand that 3 years makes him feel more secure and gives him a bit more freedom to do what he wants, but he could also get casual about having his long term future secure. If the Hawks are flying, why would Clarkson want to leave? Renew him for 3 years then on the back of continual finals success. You'll be pushing 40,000 members by then if you're flying, so extra cash is hardly an issue.

If Hawthorn only make a prelim this year, or worse, and then stall in both 2009 & 2010, would you want him as coach in 2011 if a proven premiership gun coach who ticks all the right boxes is available?

You no longer have that option.

The club obviously feels that it is in a strong onfield position and has recognised Clarkson as being the catalyst. Given he is already in his 4th season and with a realistic window of another 3-4 years, a 3 year contract seems fair and reasonable for both parties.

 

[Binxy]

Great work - this guy is focussed with a capital F....so I guess that makes him Focussed...... hmmm should that have 2 "s"'s or 1.....man, try writing "s"'s....it just looks wrong.... I suppose I could've written esses but then nobody would know what the hell I was talking about....as opposed to now....

 

[matey]

The next 3 years (end of this year & 09-10) is when you will really get to judge him. Trading picks, heavily recruiting in youth and developing obviously talented kids into a decent yet not finals proven football side is the reletively easy part. Consistently playing and winning finals including premierships is the part he will be ultimantly judged on.

Whether he's the man to take Hawthorn from where they are now to a premiership team remains to be seen, that is fact. He absolutely warrants the opportunity to have the chance to do it though. I just think locking him in for the next 3 and a half years is unnecessary when you could lock him in for 2 and a half more, and just renew his contract if hes flying mid-2010.

You judge him from day 1 since he arrived at the club. So you totally disregard where he has brought the club from in such a short time! The improvement left in the teams performance is scary given the Hawks are still one of the youngest around so expect 2010 and 2011 to be better. You would have to be one of the harshest critics on this planet and given that all other (non-Hawks) supporters are giving credit where its due your idiotic tendencies are on display. Love Clarcko and 3 years is well deserved.

 

[WCE57]

Good to see Clarkson re-sign.

On his efforts, I think a 3 year contract is well deserved.

I agree with King Elvis point about him sticking up for Vandenberg. Totally respect Clarkson for doing that.

 

[spartan hawks]

Firstly i would like to congratulate the hawthorn footy club for making this decision and of course congratulations to alaistair clarkson . That is worthy reward for a bloke i really questioned when he took the job.The club has come a long way under jeff kennet and alaister on and off the field and our 10th flag is only around the corner thanks to the hard decisions these people have made.Go hawks everything is in place to celebrate our 10th flag.

 

[pacman]

It may have made him a target in the media, but the way he went in to bat for Vandenberg last year was sensational - the media don't like it, but having the guts to stand up to them and defend your players; I bet the Hawks playing group would've walked through fire for him.

That gives me goose bumps. Love the way our club is travelling.

 

[Hawkamania!]

My night has brightened up considerably.

Well done to Coach Clarkson! He has made the difficult decisions and should be rewarded accordingly.

 

[lazy]

Jury is out until he gets a flag but at this stage ticking the right boxes

 

[#1 Dogs Fan]

Has done everything asked of him to date and more. His next challenge is to win a premiership which might be a very tough task but he is capable

 

[hawks_time]

Lol the thread retitle made me read it as resigns and thought it was a troll.
On ya Clarkey!