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Tesla Cybertruck near production:
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I vote for it as ugliest.
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But of course its in they eye of the beholder.
The range of them all goes to crap if you want to use them for
a) Carrying heavy loads
b) Towing heavy trailers.
You know, the kind of things people who aren't making a fashion statement use their pickups for.
I suspect the shape of the Cybertruck is a function of the material ( Stainless Steel ). You just can't stamp the stuff into a shape like normal steel. So it's flat sections and hard bends.
The Delorian was the last one to do it, but that was stainless sections bonded onto fibre glass.
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I was legit thinking of a Tesla for my next purchase, but since Elon revealed himself to be such a massive silly fellow I won't bother. Plus other manufacturers are catching up to Tesla in tech
These are pretty shitty graphics
Caaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaarn
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If you want to get a Tesla get a Tesla, who cares about the media hit job on the company owner and the nonsense going on with possibly the worst website on the internet.
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You can form an opinion on Elon Musk entirely from the things he directly posts on his own Twitter account without paying any attention whatsoever to a 'media hit job'.
Sidenote, how much of a ******* do you have to be to go with 'right wing edgelord' as your public personality when your most successful company sells electric cars? How many teenage nerds enjoying finally being able to say the n-word on the Internet are buying Teslas?
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Lol consumers make decisions on what they want to purchase based on morality and ethics all the time. Lots of people boycott Nestle and shit like that. Lots of people abandoned VW after the emissions scandal.
How is Musk tweeting ridiculous crap and embarrassing himself a "media hit job"? The guy is blowing up his own company purely down to his own ego.
The fact is Tesla aren't miles ahead of the EV sector anymore, their competition is rapidly catching up. The main thing Tesla has going is the ridiculous acceleration, but if you don't particularly care about 0-100 in 3 seconds then there's plenty of other options and it's increasing every day. Their share price has tanked 60% in a year and the public has woken up to the fact they can't actually deliver on their promises.
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Elon Musk: iM a CeNtRiSt
Also Elon: btw here's a bunch of idiotic right wing memes and also I just unbanned Andrew Tate
Eskimo: what's with this media hit job on Elon Musk???
Also Elon: btw here's a bunch of idiotic right wing memes and also I just unbanned Andrew Tate
Eskimo: what's with this media hit job on Elon Musk???
I mean that's fair - if you are getting better value for money with a better car then it makes sense to go that way, that's just competition.
They do also have a dog mode which I found out the other day. Was walking past a Tesla with the windows up and a dog inside, was considering calling the police but the dog looked happy inside. Went to get my take away and came back - dog still inside looking happy, windows still up. So I googled to find out how the dog looked so happy inside and found out about dog mode, where essentially the car is 'off', but the inside of the car is kept at a good temperature. If you look in to the car window it has a screen which pops up and says "don't worry this dog is ok" or something like that. Cool stuff tbh.
Great post. Tesla was a capital rich innovator that led the global mainstream vehicle EV charge (lame pun, sorry) and was able to charge a premium for that. The history of the motor vehicle car industry (and manufacturing generally) is built on such individual companies and individuals.
That EVs are now becoming mainstream, helped by the rise of new global Chinese owned vehicle manufacturing behemoths, means that Tesla's advantages as an innovator are being whittled away and it can no longer charge the premium it once could.
That Australia is so far behind the rest of the world in understanding, accepting and preparing for the EV transformation is what really pisses me off.
(Imagine if we had the foresight a couple of decades ago to use our failing motor vehicle industry here (and the multi billion dollar Aussie taxpayer subsidies it received over the years) as a platform for participating in the EV revolution at some level? Nah - the fact most of the capital was US owned meant that was never going to happen. Our government policy is too focussed on things like giving tax breaks for domestic housing than supporting investment in sustainable globally focussed industry development)
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On the EV issue- I see that Chinese manufacturer BYD has overtaken Tesla as the world’s largest EV brand. And they have joined Chinese brand GWM in setting up EV manufacturing facilities in Thailand to counter the ongoing covid related restrictions on manufacturing capacity in China. Japanese brands including Toyota are also looking to invest in Thai EV manufacturing.
Thailand is the ASEAN regions largest automotive manufacturer and is placing itself at the forefront of the EV shift in the south east asian region by providing direct subsidies and tax incentives for EV sales and production that is a key part of the Thai Government low carbon policy framework.
asia.nikkei.com
Thailand is the ASEAN regions largest automotive manufacturer and is placing itself at the forefront of the EV shift in the south east asian region by providing direct subsidies and tax incentives for EV sales and production that is a key part of the Thai Government low carbon policy framework.
Thailand's auto industry becomes a Japan-China battleground
'Detroit of Southeast Asia' courts investment from both of Asia's giants
asia.nikkei.com
Most people don't have a clue about what kind of assholes are running the company they bought a car from. Yes they are mostly assholes, and they are normally owned by faceless shareholders.
One of my favourite moments was when the heads of Chrysler, Ford and GM all went from Detroit to Washington to plead about how they were strapped for cash and needed government handouts. They all flew in their personal executive jets.
Telling them it was a bad look , the senator ( or whoever he was ) sent them packing.
They came back the next time , road trip.
The senator let the meetings proceed , but pointed out to them that an ordinary first class ticket on a normal commercial flight would have been fine.
One of my favourite moments was when the heads of Chrysler, Ford and GM all went from Detroit to Washington to plead about how they were strapped for cash and needed government handouts. They all flew in their personal executive jets.
Telling them it was a bad look , the senator ( or whoever he was ) sent them packing.
They came back the next time , road trip.
The senator let the meetings proceed , but pointed out to them that an ordinary first class ticket on a normal commercial flight would have been fine.
Are you allowed to use Dog mode for your kids?
Most cars can't do this without running the engine. The aircon compressor is driven off the engine.
A Tesla has 11% less range when the aircon is used ( more than 11% less if you leave the aircon on while parked ).
A Tesla has 17% less range when the heater is used full bore. ( Normal cars get their heat for free, waste heat from the engine ).
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I'm sure plenty of other manufacturer execs are dicks too, but at least they aren't stupid enough to actively troll their own customer base like Elon has done.
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Here's my two cents nobody wants.
Yes, Musk is shown to be awful and regressive in many ways like politics and culture and personally, but he has been the one to push this tech forward, passionate about renewables and green energy, and trying to save the world with those innovations.
Other companies may be catching up, but they're only catching up because he pushed them too, they were scared of losing $$$ more than anything else. They do not seem as invested in it, or they wouldn't have waited for the second coming of Tesla.
Now, if you are also someone who values the future of the earth, what do you do? Buy from a leader, or buy from a follower?
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Yes, Musk is shown to be awful and regressive in many ways like politics and culture and personally, but he has been the one to push this tech forward, passionate about renewables and green energy, and trying to save the world with those innovations.
Other companies may be catching up, but they're only catching up because he pushed them too, they were scared of losing $$$ more than anything else. They do not seem as invested in it, or they wouldn't have waited for the second coming of Tesla.
Now, if you are also someone who values the future of the earth, what do you do? Buy from a leader, or buy from a follower?
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Evaluate the product and buy the most suitable for me.
Include value for money as a criteria.
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Yeah, that's the best way IMO, but if you choose to take outside factors in to account, then there's other povs.
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Buy from the follower and inspire the leader to forge new frontiers.
An innovator should spend their time innovating, not getting comfortable.
Revealed: more than 90% of rainforest carbon offsets by biggest certifier are worthless, analysis shows
Investigation into Verra carbon standard finds most are ‘phantom credits’ and may worsen global heating
For those struggling.
Preventing deforestation, will not offset anything, it just stops things getting worse. Its like promising not to build a coal power stations.
They aren't actually preventing deforestation.
Hey everyone , i promise not to build a new power station or destroy Kakadu, can i drive a V8 now?
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2 dead 2 missing now. Awful stuff
One thing that is probably not clear in the footage is that a lot of the homes shown aren't like places randomly hit way out in the suburbs, they are central, highly densely populated areas.
The business i work for has a branch in Glenfield ( not PacknSave thankfully ).
The manager was going to visit Melbourne next week, but he might be in damage control. Hope they are all safe.
