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Re: Tim Watson - Sheedy has to take over now.
IMO Sheedy is not the future for Richmond
He's just another stop gap measure
We need long term planning with someone with a lot of energy and new ideas.
If he has to fill in for the rest of the year, that's a different matter, and I probably wouldn't have as many objections as I might have a year ago, but not for the next coaching contract. Want someone else.
IMO Sheedy is not the future for Richmond
He's just another stop gap measure
We need long term planning with someone with a lot of energy and new ideas.
If he has to fill in for the rest of the year, that's a different matter, and I probably wouldn't have as many objections as I might have a year ago, but not for the next coaching contract. Want someone else.
Re: Tim Watson - Sheedy has to take over now.
We hate Robert walls. He was a bad appointment, he was a rubbish coach at the bears, and he was a dick of a bloke, but this football club right now makes everything bad he's said about us look half right.
Anyone that was there those weeks we got smashed by Essendon and Adelaide can see it again now. Players playing for themselves, arguing amongst themeslves, backstabbing each other and the coach.
Walls said he walked into a place that was full of itself. He tried to make changes, the players rebelled , he got sacked.
90% of the game of footy is played above the shoulders and we are mentally weak, selfish and perpetuate a weak culture that overrates players and rewards them for mediocrity by sacking coaches.
Wallace hasnt changed a thing, and neither will the next coach.
Sheedy is the only bloke that has any chance at taking on this selfish playing group backed by football club hacks and surviving. Too many people at this club have vendettas against Malthouse from years ago for him to succeed.
We hate Robert walls. He was a bad appointment, he was a rubbish coach at the bears, and he was a dick of a bloke, but this football club right now makes everything bad he's said about us look half right.
Anyone that was there those weeks we got smashed by Essendon and Adelaide can see it again now. Players playing for themselves, arguing amongst themeslves, backstabbing each other and the coach.
Walls said he walked into a place that was full of itself. He tried to make changes, the players rebelled , he got sacked.
90% of the game of footy is played above the shoulders and we are mentally weak, selfish and perpetuate a weak culture that overrates players and rewards them for mediocrity by sacking coaches.
Wallace hasnt changed a thing, and neither will the next coach.
Sheedy is the only bloke that has any chance at taking on this selfish playing group backed by football club hacks and surviving. Too many people at this club have vendettas against Malthouse from years ago for him to succeed.
Re: Tim Watson - Sheedy has to take over now.
I sincerely hope that this gathers some momentum, experience should never be undersold in difficult times, it's almost absurd to suggest an inexperienced novice would be the preferred option under the circumstances
I sincerely hope that this gathers some momentum, experience should never be undersold in difficult times, it's almost absurd to suggest an inexperienced novice would be the preferred option under the circumstances
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Re: Tim Watson - Sheedy has to take over now.
I have only just got over the fact that Sheedy has "returned" after 28 odd years at the Bombers...
(as Jerry Seinfeld said of George Costanza... "He holds a grudge like Khomeini"!)
but your comment about experience might be relevent in the case of this group of players.
It is more and more apparent that we need someone to break the 'culture' of a losing mentality and selfishness and the advantage Sheedy has is that he is so revered and respected.
I can imagine Connors laughing behind his hand at Wallace but Sheedy would command much more respect IMO and 13 games as caretaker coach with an option for both parties for next year may not be a poor decission. (And it pains me a bit to say that)
Certainly I can not see any down side to this scenario when compared to our current drifting without a rudder season.
I sincerely hope that this gathers some momentum, experience should never be undersold in difficult times, it's almost absurd to suggest an inexperienced novice would be the preferred option under the circumstances
I have only just got over the fact that Sheedy has "returned" after 28 odd years at the Bombers...
(as Jerry Seinfeld said of George Costanza... "He holds a grudge like Khomeini"!)
but your comment about experience might be relevent in the case of this group of players.
It is more and more apparent that we need someone to break the 'culture' of a losing mentality and selfishness and the advantage Sheedy has is that he is so revered and respected.
I can imagine Connors laughing behind his hand at Wallace but Sheedy would command much more respect IMO and 13 games as caretaker coach with an option for both parties for next year may not be a poor decission. (And it pains me a bit to say that)
Certainly I can not see any down side to this scenario when compared to our current drifting without a rudder season.
Re: Tim Watson - Sheedy has to take over now.
the melodrama aside I agree with the sentiment...don't know how anyone with a straight face could convince us that sheeds wouldn't be up to this herculean task but Hinkley/cambo/Cameron/hardwick would
the melodrama aside I agree with the sentiment...don't know how anyone with a straight face could convince us that sheeds wouldn't be up to this herculean task but Hinkley/cambo/Cameron/hardwick would
Re: Tim Watson - Sheedy has to take over now.
I agree. Good post by 1980.
It's kind of like primary schools. Each primary school has its own jokes and sayings that get perpetuated for years, as they are passed down the line.
Shit culture.
I agree. Good post by 1980.
It's kind of like primary schools. Each primary school has its own jokes and sayings that get perpetuated for years, as they are passed down the line.
Shit culture.
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Re: Tim Watson - Sheedy has to take over now.
Barassi - Swans.
Sheeds - Tiges?
At this point we dont need the "best" coach, we need someone not only with coaching experience, but someone who is mentally tough, who takes no crap and will snap us out of our pathetic habits of the past. Hope that man is Sheeds
Barassi - Swans.
Sheeds - Tiges? At this point we dont need the "best" coach, we need someone not only with coaching experience, but someone who is mentally tough, who takes no crap and will snap us out of our pathetic habits of the past. Hope that man is Sheeds
Re: Tim Watson - Sheedy has to take over now.
Sheeds would be the perfect caretaker for the remainder of this season. I cannot see any point in Terry continuing, but likewise, i cannot see any point in one of the donkey assistant coaches we have taking over either - they have been mentored and learnt from Terry, and realistically will only perpetuate the problems we currently have. We need an outsider with a take no shit attitude, someone with direction and experience. Sheeds is the perfect man for this caretaker role.
On a side note, i'm always very impressed by James Hird's articles in the paper. Not sure if he has any coaching ambitions, but we could do a lot worse than getting Hird around the club in some sort of coaching capacity either.
If Sheeds did well as caretaker, who knows, maybe give him another 1-2 years and have Hird as an assistant in sort of an apprenticeship for him to take over long term.
Regardless of the Hird idea, which may be one of many for a long term replacement, the Sheedy as caretaker situation is ideal IMO. Not just for the on field aspects, but we cannot forget the off-field, and the marketing angle etc, well you prob wouldnt do better from that aspect.
Sheeds would be the perfect caretaker for the remainder of this season. I cannot see any point in Terry continuing, but likewise, i cannot see any point in one of the donkey assistant coaches we have taking over either - they have been mentored and learnt from Terry, and realistically will only perpetuate the problems we currently have. We need an outsider with a take no shit attitude, someone with direction and experience. Sheeds is the perfect man for this caretaker role.
On a side note, i'm always very impressed by James Hird's articles in the paper. Not sure if he has any coaching ambitions, but we could do a lot worse than getting Hird around the club in some sort of coaching capacity either.
If Sheeds did well as caretaker, who knows, maybe give him another 1-2 years and have Hird as an assistant in sort of an apprenticeship for him to take over long term.
Regardless of the Hird idea, which may be one of many for a long term replacement, the Sheedy as caretaker situation is ideal IMO. Not just for the on field aspects, but we cannot forget the off-field, and the marketing angle etc, well you prob wouldnt do better from that aspect.
Re: Tim Watson - Sheedy has to take over now.
I'm fast warming to Hardwick when you start to look at his credentials and what we need.
If you believe rumor it was Hardwick and Nights for Essendon and Hardwick didn't think the list was as good as Knights did.
Played under sheedy and Choco. Assistant Coach with Choco and Now Clarkson. I'm guessing he has seen all sorts of styles , he played the game with intensity
With the money we saved taking a developing coach we could throw it at good assistants, recruiters and development coaches.
I'm fast warming to Hardwick when you start to look at his credentials and what we need.
If you believe rumor it was Hardwick and Nights for Essendon and Hardwick didn't think the list was as good as Knights did.
Played under sheedy and Choco. Assistant Coach with Choco and Now Clarkson. I'm guessing he has seen all sorts of styles , he played the game with intensity
With the money we saved taking a developing coach we could throw it at good assistants, recruiters and development coaches.
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Re: Tim Watson - Sheedy has to take over now.
You sir, hit the nail on the head. Perfect answer, Hardwick is the man, but if not Hardwick then Sheedy is the answer.
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Jade Rawlings Caretaker
There's a couple of points I think should be raised. Jade has a horrible reputation on this board mainly because of his odd playing career and perceived "gooseness." However, I don't believe this should impact on how we perceive him as a coach. Apparently he is highly regarded at the club and was always seen as a smart footballer during his playing days, even if he couldn't execute what he was thinking half the time.
1. The players love and respect him and would want to play for him.
2. He's the Coburg coach, not part of Terry's matchday team. Therefore he is independent and as untouched by Terry's big ideas than anyone else in the club.
3. As Coburg coach he probably knows the younger players, and their games, better than Terry does himself, or in fact any outsider we could bring in.
4. Coburg, whilst obviously well and truly a sub-AFL standard team, play a fast, high scoring attacking brand of footy that I think we would all like to see.
Everytime I hear a report on a Coburg game there is always some mention of Rawlings giving a bloke a spray, or praise, or whatever and I almost always agree with it. In fact everything I hear about him as a coach at Coburg is positive. Doesn't seem to play favourites like Terry either; just as likely to spray Jordie as he is to praise Carnell as he is to praise Jordie as he is to spray Carnell.
Now I don't necessarliy agree with the assertion that Jade should step in as caretaker but the above points occurred to me last night and I reckon they're a bit important. I'm not for a minute suggesting we put him in full time but I think it's logical that if Terry departs mid season we'd bring in an assistant. For the above reasons, I think Rawlings is a much better option than King, Campbell, Royal or anyone else.
There's a couple of points I think should be raised. Jade has a horrible reputation on this board mainly because of his odd playing career and perceived "gooseness." However, I don't believe this should impact on how we perceive him as a coach. Apparently he is highly regarded at the club and was always seen as a smart footballer during his playing days, even if he couldn't execute what he was thinking half the time.
1. The players love and respect him and would want to play for him.
2. He's the Coburg coach, not part of Terry's matchday team. Therefore he is independent and as untouched by Terry's big ideas than anyone else in the club.
3. As Coburg coach he probably knows the younger players, and their games, better than Terry does himself, or in fact any outsider we could bring in.
4. Coburg, whilst obviously well and truly a sub-AFL standard team, play a fast, high scoring attacking brand of footy that I think we would all like to see.
Everytime I hear a report on a Coburg game there is always some mention of Rawlings giving a bloke a spray, or praise, or whatever and I almost always agree with it. In fact everything I hear about him as a coach at Coburg is positive. Doesn't seem to play favourites like Terry either; just as likely to spray Jordie as he is to praise Carnell as he is to praise Jordie as he is to spray Carnell.
Now I don't necessarliy agree with the assertion that Jade should step in as caretaker but the above points occurred to me last night and I reckon they're a bit important. I'm not for a minute suggesting we put him in full time but I think it's logical that if Terry departs mid season we'd bring in an assistant. For the above reasons, I think Rawlings is a much better option than King, Campbell, Royal or anyone else.
Re: Tim Watson - Sheedy has to take over now.
I hear what you are saying
Could be an interesting path
I hear what you are saying
Could be an interesting path
Re: Jade Rawlings Caretaker
Very good post, I am a poster on this board that does not exactly like Jade but the points you make are spot on. Having him brought in could not hurt at all
Very good post, I am a poster on this board that does not exactly like Jade but the points you make are spot on. Having him brought in could not hurt at all
Re: Jade Rawlings Caretaker
I never thought id say it but bring sheeds in for the rest of the year, imagine the media circus it would brighten up what has become a very sad season
I never thought id say it but bring sheeds in for the rest of the year, imagine the media circus it would brighten up what has become a very sad season
Re: Jade Rawlings Caretaker
although sheeds would be the preferred caretaker, I reckon it would be most unlikely...I wouldnt have any problems in rawlings having a dip, seems to be making a fair fist of the caper at Coburg that places him ahead of any of the current assistants to TW
although sheeds would be the preferred caretaker, I reckon it would be most unlikely...I wouldnt have any problems in rawlings having a dip, seems to be making a fair fist of the caper at Coburg that places him ahead of any of the current assistants to TW
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Re: Jade Rawlings Caretaker
Married to Richo's sister as well.
Married to Richo's sister as well.
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Give Sheeds 3 years...
Just do it for FFS and lets get this list built. Who coaches us after that i dont really give a shit. Or better still have a ****ing bluerprint set from now on the future of the coaching panel. But the sooner we have Sheeds at the helm, the sooner he can cast his eye on prospects and the sooner we actually build this list with talent.
Just do it for FFS and lets get this list built. Who coaches us after that i dont really give a shit. Or better still have a ****ing bluerprint set from now on the future of the coaching panel. But the sooner we have Sheeds at the helm, the sooner he can cast his eye on prospects and the sooner we actually build this list with talent.
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Re: Give Sheeds 3 years...
the part that goes hand in hand with, the coach has the backing of all the players and his contract runs until the end of the year and all that shit that nuff nuffs like you tend to hear and think that they are actually going to tell you what exactly is happening behind closed doors. Do you get the picture now?
the part that goes hand in hand with, the coach has the backing of all the players and his contract runs until the end of the year and all that shit that nuff nuffs like you tend to hear and think that they are actually going to tell you what exactly is happening behind closed doors. Do you get the picture now?
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Re: Give Sheeds 3 years...
How do you know that? Did Kevin tell you that over drinks last night.
How do you know that? Did Kevin tell you that over drinks last night.
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