Man... his kicking was just beautiful. Sitting behind the goals was not a safe place when he had the ball in his hands.
Opinion Colin Sylvia
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Where is Bushie when you need him lol.
Sorry but he has been pretty much rubbish over here, there is no way around it.
First off, the whole team did badly yesterday, it's not Sylvia's fault we lost.
I've not seem much of Melbourne or Peel, so I'll based my judgement on his performance for the last 4 games.
Except I have not much to based on. He didn't get much touches, nor was he near any contests. He have had 4 games, and have no more excused about adjustment to intensity, pace, gameplan...etc. I rank his performance so far as "Suban on his bad day". Heck, I may actually believe you if you told me he was in the changing room at whole time after 1/2 time. If there is a player to drop for Hill, Ballas and Sonson, I'm putting him in the firing line before Suban, Mayne, Neale.
In fact, put him back to Peel and don't bother calling until he start playing anything near decent.
I've not seem much of Melbourne or Peel, so I'll based my judgement on his performance for the last 4 games.
Except I have not much to based on. He didn't get much touches, nor was he near any contests. He have had 4 games, and have no more excused about adjustment to intensity, pace, gameplan...etc. I rank his performance so far as "Suban on his bad day". Heck, I may actually believe you if you told me he was in the changing room at whole time after 1/2 time. If there is a player to drop for Hill, Ballas and Sonson, I'm putting him in the firing line before Suban, Mayne, Neale.
In fact, put him back to Peel and don't bother calling until he start playing anything near decent.
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I have always supported Colin, as I support all our players but I'd be very surprised if he or Mora lines up against Carlton, other than perhaps sub or dependent on how injuries pan out. Haven't written him off like most though.
Sylvia has had 4 games now and has done absolutely zilch. If he is played again next week over Sherro and Croz, they should be filthy. Those 2 are consistantly in the best for Peel, something Sylvia hasn't done and are constantly overlooked.
This I'd rather get games into Sheridan especially. Morabito has added more than Sylvia has so far. We signed a free agent cos we had the money and tried to turn him into a player he isn't. So far it hasn't worked. He's been terrible at best considering his wage etc.
What annoys me is Josh Simpson played well as a sub and got dropped. He played well enough to demand being picked again. Ok his attitude after was poor and he copped it.
Sylvia isn't being held accountable.
He was poor at Peel and it has continued for Fremantle.
Reward effort and performance. Not wages and hope.
Sylvia isn't being held accountable.
He was poor at Peel and it has continued for Fremantle.
Reward effort and performance. Not wages and hope.
We really lacked outside run yesterday and also lacked an actual forward besides Pav. I think Tabs will make it, but he is out bodied far to easy at this stage. Getting a gelling forward line is crucial before finals, and we need both de boer and Mayne actually kicking goals instead of just tackling.
It seems like all I do is come on this board and be negative, so I will make my next post more positive.
But, having said all that..........I'm really worried about Tabener. Fair enough, he is new and raw, but he just doesn't seem to have much confidence, or go hard enough at the ball. Just seems a little too timid to be an AFL footballer. I know it's early days and I'll be more than happy to be proved wrong. What does everyone else think?
He's got something that is hard to teach and good that's good leading patterns.
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Sylvia wasn't the worst yesterday, but he has played enough games to show that he doesn't deserve to be picked for the rest of the year.
Good luck in 2015, Colin. Put your head down and give it a genuine crack next time.
Good luck in 2015, Colin. Put your head down and give it a genuine crack next time.
He's not timid, the transformation in his body over the space of 2 years is exceptional for a 21 year old kid. He came to us a very skinny 19 year old and actually has some size about him now. He dominates the WAFL and clunks marks often under intense pressure from defenders. Give him time. Big key forwards are useless for years with a few exceptions. For a rookie selection he's tracking nicely. Think back 2 years, his kicking was poor, he was skinny, the improvement is there. As long as he continues improving we'll have a player.
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I only saw about 5 minutes of the game yesterday as I spent all day trying to prepare for a wedding and then left at 4pm for it. Obviously to get smashed by a potential wooden spoon team is not one player's fault.
However, Sylvia has been an incredible disappointment. He is reaching Jack Anthony territory. I feel like we could've spent an entire season putting games into someone like Tom Sheridan or Hayden Crozier instead and watching them build and develop into players that can contribute towards those extra goals we were searching for and hoping for from Sylvia. Such a waste.
However, Sylvia has been an incredible disappointment. He is reaching Jack Anthony territory. I feel like we could've spent an entire season putting games into someone like Tom Sheridan or Hayden Crozier instead and watching them build and develop into players that can contribute towards those extra goals we were searching for and hoping for from Sylvia. Such a waste.
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I found a thread for each of the other players who played badly yesterday.
http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/forums/freo-player-watch.292/
I agree he just needs to start believing in his ability, he is a totally different player to Apeness, he wont crash packs but will run all day and in time should be able to get
seperation with smart leads back and forth.
We will have a different forward line by 2016, but we are lucky our small to medium players are more than capable, and our midfield to maintain scoring pressure.
If Sylvia doesnt improve by next year he should be gone, a guy with that many games under his belt should be contributing more.
I would give him one more year, but needs the Clancee Pearce treatment.
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Yep I noticed that. He spent so long on the ground that by the time Barlow needed to handball back to him to get out of trouble he was still down instead of up and ready to help his teammate.
Pretty indicative of our effort levels all day and I'd be surprised if he doesn't cop a stern talking to for it once the Boss goes back over the tape.
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Yeah, my oath I noticed it ... and I was fuming, because it confirmed for me my fears that he should not have started in place of DeBoer. No offence to RTB and the other full time experts who I will happily concede are in an immensely better position than us armchair wannabe's - but starting Mora was awful decision. You could see in the previous weeks that he didn't have a full game in him. Even coming on as a sub, he simply didn't have that repeat effort in him.
I hate sounding like one of those dicks that claim to know more than the pros, but, in this instance, I'll confidently say that was a stupid call by the match committee.
As for Colin, well, interesting to see where the same Match Committee go with him. I'm neither here nor there with Sylvia TBH and essentially thought he was worth sticking with, he seemed to be doing enough to satisfy RTB ... so I've been happy the way the club have gone with him so far, but I'd be surprised if he's in the team after the bye, though in fairness if he gets dropped for his performance in that game alone, then there'd be a good handful more that should get their Peel jumpers out of the closet too and make sure they fit nicely.
Dominate WAFL is a bit overs - he is competitive at WAFL level. For him to be dominant he needs to at least average over 2 goals a game.
His superior endurance at WAFL level allows him to run his opponent off his feet at that level and he takes heaps of marks up the ground. He takes this to AFL but it is not as pronounced and doesn't add much damage to the team. The difficulty is that he is playing as an alternate 3rd forward with Mayne, he needs to put on small forward level pressure. He doesn't at the moment, and that means the midfielders have to be more accurate with their entry. All this adds up to him being a little bit of a liability at the moment and I would have preferred bringing in someone like Crozier for the St Kilda Game.
Agree, we will not play 3 talls for the rest of the year. Can not wait to have Ballas and Walters in the forward line.
You can't blame the forwards for not producing if they are starved of supply. We were on the receiving end of a midfield fisting.
Clarke and Griff didn't really do much all game, neither hit the scoreboard, and neither provided a link up through the middle, or transition out of defense. It was an underwhelming performance from both Mundy and Fyfe (the umps never called the holding they endured all game). Mora never really got involved, and D.Pearce struggled with the extra attention he got with Hill out. McPharlin looked way off the pace, and Dawson really struggled against Roo.
In the first three quarters (when they built the lead), they couldn't miss a target. The fumbling uncoordinated Saints of 2014 were replaced with the precision outfit that was running around in 2008.
It really is an indictment on the Saints. They obviously have the capacity to play football, but for the majority of the year they just CBF.
Clarke and Griff didn't really do much all game, neither hit the scoreboard, and neither provided a link up through the middle, or transition out of defense. It was an underwhelming performance from both Mundy and Fyfe (the umps never called the holding they endured all game). Mora never really got involved, and D.Pearce struggled with the extra attention he got with Hill out. McPharlin looked way off the pace, and Dawson really struggled against Roo.
In the first three quarters (when they built the lead), they couldn't miss a target. The fumbling uncoordinated Saints of 2014 were replaced with the precision outfit that was running around in 2008.
It really is an indictment on the Saints. They obviously have the capacity to play football, but for the majority of the year they just CBF.
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Re. Colin Sylvia's future footy endeavors...it ain't just many of us saying he should be mothballed the rest of the way: https://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/a/24505588/cometti-sylvias-bother-hurting-freo/
