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You fail...? Thought so...
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What's that?
You fail...? Thought so...
And who is Cloke turning into....?
See one Chris Tarrant. Do the comparison!
Why 21?
In the last 3 seasons, only Brisbane & Port Adelaide have produced more RS nominations than Collingwood. 2 Collingwood players have finished R/U in this award.
Barring a major slip up, Collingwood's youngsters will play in their 3rd Straight finals series, on the back of a Top 4 finish in 07.
Carlton & Essendon on the other hand have had less nominations & haven't played in 1 finals series between them.
Dale Thomas, Scott Pendlebury & Travis Cloke are all 21 or younger and are 3 potential A Graders. All 3 were rated in the top 50 players in the AFL by Sheehan.
Collingwood easily.
What flaw can you find in Reimers game? Honestly please tell me one.
Nathan Brown is scary good considering this is his debut season. Will be an absolute gun full back. Paddy Ryder is good but over rated by Bomber supporters. I'd prefer Nathan Brown over Ryder. I guess it doesn't matter because we already have him anyway.
I hope both Essendon and Collingwood keep these guys, only 4 games all season Fevola is guaranteed to kick a bag of at least 7-8.
Yeah because raw stats along tell the full story.
I mean, look, here's the proof:
Patrick Ryder Name Jason Laycock
Essendon Bombers Team Essendon Bombers
Defender Position Ruck
50 Career Games 58
East Fremantle Origin Tasmania Under 18s
March 14, 1988 Date of Birth November 4, 1984
20yr 5mth Age 23yr 9mth
197cm Height 201cm
90kg Weight 105kg
20 2008 Games 16
5.5 Kicks Per Game 4.7
5.0 Handballs Per Game 3.8
10.4 Disposals Per Game 8.5
4.2 Marks Per Game 2.8
0.2 Goals Per Game 0.9
0.1 Behinds Per Game 0.6
2.1 Tackles Per Game 1.4
2.0 Hitouts Per Game 9.6
0.6 Inside 50s Per Game 1.0
0.2 Goal Assists Per Game 0.2
0.4 Goals Contributed Per Game 1.1
0.8 Frees For Per Game 0.9
0.9 Frees Against Per Game 0.7
$190,500 Dream Team Salary $173,900
48.8 Dream Team Score Per Game 50.1
$360,100 Supercoach Salary $249,700
65.6 Supercoach Score Per Game 54.3
Laycock actually beats him in a few areas. Ryder must be the second coming of big Jas.
Or what about comparing Ryder and Kepler Bradley? Keps destroys him in everything...
Not looking good for Paddy at this stage going off your formula for success
Only fighting fire with fire.
Ryder is Kepler the second?
Cloke is Tarrant the second.
All these arguments are flawed as you pointed out with mine. Only time will tell but the way Cloke gets put in as one of the most exciting young talents is beyond me. As is Ryder beyond some.
Semantics alert:
21 years and under.
Being 21 years and a couple of months does not make you under 21. Guessing no-one else in here tried to sneak another year in under 12's?
Cloke gets put amongst the exiting young talents for the obvious of reasons. A best and fairest winner. Probably will win it this year too. An outstanding finals series. I can't think of any CHF prospect 21 and under that is better.
If it is beyond your reasoning, than maybe you have NFI.
...or maybe he has done very little this year worthy of noting. You say B&F again this year...? Really?
Yep. Has been very very good in recent weeks. Hard to believe that he is still only 21.
Paddy Ryder V Nathan Brown = no contest, Brown gets Paddy whacked. So that means Brown is well on his way to being the next ?? Ben Reid?? might be difficult for him to get his funky little set shot routine down but hey he can only try.
Agree with that. Brown is solid, but very vanilla and doesnt have an inch of the talent Ryder does have to work with.
Im afraid Brown doesnt offer anything offensively, he isnt creative at all.
FWIW, Obrien and Ryder would be the better comparison. I'd prefer Harry O'Brien.
Just wondering, any chance you know Ryder's athletic abilities on paper?
Too much bias going on here, its not worth it.
But to use your logic, ill keep Ryder and you keep O'brien and Brown.
Just remember you're not on the collingwood board.
Just wondering, any chance you know Ryder's athletic abilities on paper?
Too much bias going on here, its not worth it.
But to use your logic, ill keep Ryder and you keep O'brien and Brown.
Just remember you're not on the collingwood board.
Its unfortunate that Paddywackers isn't the head-recruiting officer at the Pies...then we'd be guaranteed another 50 years of failure at the Pies
Athletic capabilities don't hold as much weight once you're out there playing. Players like Reid and Rusling for us would appear athletically superior to Brown & O'Brien on paper but Brown & O'brien have outperformed them on the field. I still think Ryder has a fair way to go before he becomes a top-shelf defender, he may very well get there though.
Just wondering, any chance you know Ryder's athletic abilities on paper?
Too much bias going on here, its not worth it.
But to use your logic, ill keep Ryder and you keep O'brien and Brown.
Just remember you're not on the collingwood board.
Perhaps you've missed every time Harry has destroyed Lucas? Harry is one of the best, and bloody close to being the best, young defender in the league. His biggest problem is being played out of his weight division, which can make him look terrible. Mick insists on putting him on the likes of Fevola and Franklin. Both are extremely strong and fast, and Harry just isn't equipped to compete with those guys.
But when he's played on appropriate opponents, he very rarely loses a contest, let alone the matchup. In saying that, Ryder is going to be a star, but I have no idea why you would dismiss O'Brien. A brilliant stopper, and a very effective rebounder.
My friend, i was just following paddywhackers logic.
O'Brien is a very good footballer and enjoy watching play. He is everything you say. Brown is also excellent but i get a little offended when people dismiss Ryder. The kid is a ruckman and is being fast tracked into being a defender. He is skinny as well and the midfield hasn't really helped him. Once these factors are covered in the coming years, he will be a great defender if he hasn't been moved forward by then.
Please.
I find it quite amusing Pies fans for the last 3 years have been quite happy to sit back and tell us what a spud Bradley is yet when they've got a complete lemon on their hands in Reid they cant handle the truth.
Reid is a cod ordinary footballer much like Toovey. Come back and talk down when they dont look unco and and can line up a shot at goal.