List Mgmt. Collingwood FS & NGA "Peter Daicos Academy" kids

[loki04]

Strangely enough, I'm not hearing as many oppo melts about those.

It's the Ginnivan factor.

At pies most hated man, a cheat, free kick drawing squib etc.

At Hawks he's to be celebrated, his technique to draw frees applauded, tackler needs to do better. Etc

 

[ElliottsMaggies]

It's the Ginnivan factor.

At pies most hated man, a cheat, free kick drawing squib etc.

At Hawks he's to be celebrated, his technique to draw frees applauded, tackler needs to do better. Etc

Yep I've been a Pie supporter a long time. The hypocrisy is astounding.

 

[Jen2310]

The YJFL presentations were this morning

Eli Kravic came 2nd in U15 div 1 best and fairest.

Just pipped by 1 vote from his opponent from the GF, Daniel Bullock

Full votes.

U14
No votes for either Rocca, but I imagine this is a bit of a midfielder award and. think both are forwards.


U15
NGA Eli Kravic with 16 votes (2nd place)
NGA Tjaegan Egan with 9 votes
NGA Cooper Brancatisano 6 votes (only played 7 games this year)
No votes for Ted (being a ruck, prob no surprise)

U16
No votes for Max Christian (key defender)

U18

No votes for Matthew Quaynor

 

[Apex36]

Who's to say that the 2027 draft isn't better then both these years and holding it next year may allow you to double down in 27?

That’s almost as much of a gamble in addition to having to wait another 2 years to add young talent we pretty desperately need given our current list age profile.

 

[loki04]

That’s almost as much of a gamble in addition to having to wait another 2 years to add young talent we pretty desperately need given our current list age profile.

Your pick will be a known quantity next year and by trade time they will know how strong not only 26 is but the projected strength of 27.

Point was more I'd rather not be bent over with an unknown pick for sweet fa which pick 12 will become after bid matching.

 

[Apex36]

Your pick will be a known quantity next year and by trade time they will know how strong not only 26 is but the projected strength of 27.

Point was more I'd rather not be bent over with an unknown pick for sweet fa which pick 12 will become after bid matching.

I think you’re getting too hung up on picks getting pushed out by bids tbh. In the old systems of F/S players who were rated top 10 were taken for nothing picks but nobody was worried about their draft hand because the numbers stayed the same. The fact is that pick 12 will still be pick 12 in context of the players who will be available in the open draft. Why does it matter that a player who was never available to you in the first place is making your number higher? It’s not like pick 12 would be more valuable if academy and father son picks were removed from the draft pool and sent straight to their club of destination.

We’re at a point now where we have to accept that the draft is so heavily compromised that we may as well just mentally remove the high end FS/academy players from what we see as the actual draft pool and have the attitude that pick 12 gets you the 12th best available selection, regardless of what the number ends up actually being.

 

[Anzacday]

TLDR, “pick 12 gets you the 12th best available selection, regardless of what the number ends up actually being”

 

[Apex36]

TLDR, “pick 12 gets you the 12th best available selection, regardless of what the number ends up actually being”

The post wasn’t even long, stop being a douche for the sake of it.

 

[loki04]

I think you’re getting too hung up on picks getting pushed out by bids tbh. In the old systems of F/S players who were rated top 10 were taken for nothing picks but nobody was worried about their draft hand because the numbers stayed the same. The fact is that pick 12 will still be pick 12 in context of the players who will be available in the open draft. Why does it matter that a player who was never available to you in the first place is making your number higher? It’s not like pick 12 would be more valuable if academy and father son picks were removed from the draft pool and sent straight to their club of destination.

We’re at a point now where we have to accept that the draft is so heavily compromised that we may as well just mentally remove the high end FS/academy players from what we see as the actual draft pool and have the attitude that pick 12 gets you the 12th best available selection, regardless of what the number ends up actually being.

Because alot of the academy and FS guys are rated at that pick in an open draft, so pick 12 which becomes 16 is in fact actually the 16th best rated player or near to it.

If you want the 12th best you'd need to push down further, if 4 are bid on top 10 you would need pick 8.

 

[loki04]

TLDR, “pick 12 gets you the 12th best available selection, regardless of what the number ends up actually being”

But not the 12 best rated player. So pick "12" is more like pick 16 in terms of quality.

 

[Pleasedontfail11]

But not the 12 best rated player. So pick "12" is more like pick 16 in terms of quality.

Battle could create an extra pick after the saints pick.

 

[Jen2310]

So we have a list. I think it's a little outdated. This might be last years list. As the U15 NGA's that played in the diversity game and the NGA games this year aren't named. But for now, we have some names. Some I feel are name only. Others I don't think are even playing footy anymore, at least according to PlayhQ

HIGH PERFORMANCE. 16-19yrs

Adam Banks (Denis Banks)
Tom Wakelin (Shane Wakelin

Shane Wakelin

Age

50

Ht

192cm

Wt

92kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

9.8

2star

K

7.0

3star

HB

2.8

2star

M

3.4

3star

T

1.3

3star

No current season stats available

D

10.8

3star

K

8.2

4star

HB

2.6

3star

M

3.4

4star

T

0.8

3star

) - Don't think he has played footy since early 2023
Charlie Lockyer (Tarkyn Lockyer)
Luke Quaynor (NGA)
Obie Chambers (NGA) 1 game for Balwyn in 2024
Tadhg McCarthy (NGA)
Doug Kerr (NGA)
Annguyen Tran (NGA)
Matthew Quaynor (NGA)
Jai Sexena (NGA)
Archie Watson (Shane Watson)
Oscar Lonie (Ryan Lonie

Ryan Lonie

Age

41

Ht

189cm

Wt

86kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

12.7

3star

K

8.1

3star

HB

4.6

3star

M

3.1

3star

T

1.9

4star

No current season stats available

D

14.4

4star

K

10.0

4star

HB

4.4

4star

M

2.8

3star

T

1.0

3star

)
Zac McCarthy (NGA)
James Orton (NGA)
Tom McGuane (Mick McGuane)
Levi Davis (Leon Davis

Leon Davis

Age

43

Ht

177cm

Wt

80kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

13.5

3star

K

10.2

4star

HB

3.3

3star

M

3.1

3star

T

2.8

4star

G

1.2

4star

No current season stats available

D

5.0

1star

K

3.6

2star

HB

1.4

2star

M

1.2

2star

T

0.4

3star

G

0.4

3star

)
Seb Wolff (NGA)
Max Christian (Michael Christian)
Noah Bibile (NGA)
Ted Fraser (Josh Fraser

Josh Fraser

Age

42

Ht

202cm

Wt

100kg

Pos.

Ruck

Career

Season

Last 5

D

14.1

4star

K

8.7

3star

HB

5.4

4star

CL

2.5

4star

HO

11.8

5star

No current season stats available

D

9.4

3star

K

6.6

3star

HB

2.8

3star

HO

8.6

5star

)
Charlie Osborne (Richard Osborne) - Can't find anything on this kid

FUTURES - 11-15yrs

Ayce Buckley (Nathan Buckley) - I can't imagine he is involved in this no matter if his name is here
C-Jay Bryan (Chris Bryan

Chris Bryan

Age

42

Ht

197cm

Wt

99kg

Pos.

Ruck

Career

Season

Last 5

D

9.0

2star

K

6.3

2star

HB

2.6

2star

HO

10.8

5star

No current season stats available

D

13.4

4star

K

10.6

4star

HB

2.8

3star

HO

12.4

5star

)
Max Rocca (Anthony Rocca

Anthony Rocca

Age

47

Ht

195cm

Wt

105kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

11.3

3star

K

8.1

3star

HB

3.2

3star

M

5.2

5star

T

1.5

3star

G

1.9

5star

No current season stats available

D

10.8

3star

K

7.2

3star

HB

3.6

3star

M

5.2

5star

T

1.8

4star

G

2.0

5star

)
Marcus Rocca (Saverio Rocca

Saverio Rocca

Age

50

Ht

195cm

Wt

112kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

9.3

2star

K

7.3

3star

HB

2.0

2star

M

5.2

5star

T

0.8

3star

G

2.9

5star

No current season stats available

D

10.8

3star

K

7.2

3star

HB

3.6

3star

M

5.4

5star

T

1.2

3star

G

2.6

5star

)
Tjaegan Egan (Chris Egan)
Charlie Bryan (Chris Bryan

Chris Bryan

Age

42

Ht

197cm

Wt

99kg

Pos.

Ruck

Career

Season

Last 5

D

9.0

2star

K

6.3

2star

HB

2.6

2star

HO

10.8

5star

No current season stats available

D

13.4

4star

K

10.6

4star

HB

2.8

3star

HO

12.4

5star

)
Ben Richardson (Mark Richardson

Mark Richardson

Age

52

Ht

196cm

Wt

103kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

10.6

3star

K

6.6

3star

HB

4.0

3star

M

3.6

4star

T

0.8

3star

No current season stats available

D

11.6

3star

K

8.2

4star

HB

3.4

3star

M

4.8

5star

T

0.8

3star

)
Xavier Sharkley (Paul Sharkley)
Kip Holland (Brodie Holland

Brodie Holland

Age

44

Ht

181cm

Wt

81kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

15.6

4star

K

10.2

4star

HB

5.4

4star

M

4.0

4star

T

1.8

4star

No current season stats available

D

10.8

3star

K

8.6

4star

HB

2.2

2star

M

3.0

3star

T

1.0

3star

)
Bowie Holland (Brodie Holland

Brodie Holland

Age

44

Ht

181cm

Wt

81kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

15.6

4star

K

10.2

4star

HB

5.4

4star

M

4.0

4star

T

1.8

4star

No current season stats available

D

10.8

3star

K

8.6

4star

HB

2.2

2star

M

3.0

3star

T

1.0

3star

)
Billy O'Bree (Shane O'Bree

Shane O'bree

Age

45

Ht

182cm

Wt

82kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

18.9

5star

K

10.9

4star

HB

8.1

5star

M

3.2

3star

T

3.2

5star

CL

1.8

4star

No current season stats available

D

10.0

3star

K

7.2

3star

HB

2.8

3star

M

1.8

2star

T

0.2

3star

)
Max Fraser (Mark Fraser)
Cassius Licuria (Paul Licuria

Paul Licuria

Age

46

Ht

179cm

Wt

81kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

21.1

5star

K

11.9

4star

HB

9.2

5star

M

4.9

5star

T

2.6

4star

No current season stats available

D

10.4

3star

K

6.6

3star

HB

3.8

3star

M

1.8

2star

T

1.2

3star

)
Oscar Hrysoulakis (Athas Hrysoulakis)
Archie Maxwell (Nick Maxwell

Nick Maxwell

Age

41

Ht

193cm

Wt

93kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

14.5

4star

K

7.8

3star

HB

6.7

4star

M

4.6

4star

T

3.4

5star

No current season stats available

D

14.0

4star

K

8.4

4star

HB

5.6

4star

M

4.8

5star

T

3.0

5star

)
Hayden Vo (NGA)

Official AFL Website of the Collingwood Football Club

The official AFL website of the Collingwood Football Club

www.collingwoodfc.com.au

Some of these kids won't be eligible (unless they are eligible for NGA) because their fathers may not have played 100 games

We'll likely see this list change next year. The top list at least.

 

[Soups]

So we have a list. I think it's a little outdated. This might be last years list. As the U15 NGA's that played in the diversity game and the NGA games this year aren't named. But for now, we have some names. Some I feel are name only. Others I don't think are even playing footy anymore, at least according to PlayhQ

HIGH PERFORMANCE. 16-19yrs

Adam Banks (Denis Banks)
Tom Wakelin (Shane Wakelin) - Don't think he has played footy since early 2023
Charlie Lockyer (Tarkyn Lockyer)
Luke Quaynor (NGA)
Obie Chambers (NGA) 1 game for Balwyn in 2024
Tadhg McCarthy (NGA)
Doug Kerr (NGA)
Annguyen Tran (NGA)
Matthew Quaynor (NGA)
Jai Sexena (NGA)
Archie Watson (Shane Watson)
Oscar Lonie (Ryan Lonie)
Zac McCarthy (NGA)
James Orton (NGA)
Tom McGuane (Mick McGuane)
Levi Davis (Leon Davis)
Seb Wolff (NGA)
Max Christian (Michael Christian)
Noah Bibile (NGA)
Ted Fraser (Josh Fraser)
Charlie Osborne (Richard Osborne) - Can't find anything on this kid

FUTURES - 11-15yrs

Ayce Buckley (Nathan Buckley) - I can't imagine he is involved in this no matter if his name is here
C-Jay Bryan (Chris Bryan)
Max Rocca (Anthony Rocca)
Marcus Rocca (Saverio Rocca)
Tjaegan Egan (Chris Egan)
Charlie Bryan (Chris Bryan)
Ben Richardson (Mark Richardson)
Xavier Sharkley (Paul Sharkley)
Kip Holland (Brodie Holland)
Bowie Holland (Brodie Holland)
Billy O'Bree (Shane O'Bree)
Max Fraser (Mark Fraser)
Cassius Licuria (Paul Licuria)
Oscar Hrysoulakis (Athas Hrysoulakis)
Archie Maxwell (Nick Maxwell)
Hayden Vo (NGA)

Official AFL Website of the Collingwood Football Club

The official AFL website of the Collingwood Football Club

www.collingwoodfc.com.au

Some of these kids won't be eligible (unless they are eligible for NGA) because their fathers may not have played 100 games

We'll likely see this list change next year. The top list at least.

Alright who we going to tip is going to be the next gun out of the father sons? Would love for a mini Leon Davis to be causing havoc one day.

 

[Apex36]

Alright who we going to tip is going to be the next gun out of the father sons? Would love for a mini Leon Davis to be causing havoc one day.

Well if it’s from this list the smart money would be on Tommy McGuane

Hopefully the Rocca boys both turn in to guns (and Savs boy shuns Norf).

 

[Vicky Park]

So we have a list. I think it's a little outdated. This might be last years list. As the U15 NGA's that played in the diversity game and the NGA games this year aren't named. But for now, we have some names. Some I feel are name only. Others I don't think are even playing footy anymore, at least according to PlayhQ

HIGH PERFORMANCE. 16-19yrs

Adam Banks (Denis Banks)
Tom Wakelin (Shane Wakelin) - Don't think he has played footy since early 2023
Charlie Lockyer (Tarkyn Lockyer)
Luke Quaynor (NGA)
Obie Chambers (NGA) 1 game for Balwyn in 2024
Tadhg McCarthy (NGA)
Doug Kerr (NGA)
Annguyen Tran (NGA)
Matthew Quaynor (NGA)
Jai Sexena (NGA)
Archie Watson (Shane Watson)
Oscar Lonie (Ryan Lonie)
Zac McCarthy (NGA)
James Orton (NGA)
Tom McGuane (Mick McGuane)
Levi Davis (Leon Davis)
Seb Wolff (NGA)
Max Christian (Michael Christian)
Noah Bibile (NGA)
Ted Fraser (Josh Fraser)
Charlie Osborne (Richard Osborne) - Can't find anything on this kid

FUTURES - 11-15yrs

Ayce Buckley (Nathan Buckley) - I can't imagine he is involved in this no matter if his name is here
C-Jay Bryan (Chris Bryan)
Max Rocca (Anthony Rocca)
Marcus Rocca (Saverio Rocca)
Tjaegan Egan (Chris Egan)
Charlie Bryan (Chris Bryan)
Ben Richardson (Mark Richardson)
Xavier Sharkley (Paul Sharkley)
Kip Holland (Brodie Holland)
Bowie Holland (Brodie Holland)
Billy O'Bree (Shane O'Bree)
Max Fraser (Mark Fraser)
Cassius Licuria (Paul Licuria)
Oscar Hrysoulakis (Athas Hrysoulakis)
Archie Maxwell (Nick Maxwell)
Hayden Vo (NGA)

Official AFL Website of the Collingwood Football Club

The official AFL website of the Collingwood Football Club

www.collingwoodfc.com.au

Some of these kids won't be eligible (unless they are eligible for NGA) because their fathers may not have played 100 games

We'll likely see this list change next year. The top list at least.

Thanks Jen, you are a fantastic resource for this board.

 

[Soups]

Well if it’s from this list the smart money would be on Tommy McGuane

Hopefully the Rocca boys both turn in to guns (and Savs boy shuns Norf).

Haha the amount of coverage he’s gotten I thought he already was

 

[Harry O]

I think the Buckley boys are 20 and 18 aren’t they ?

 

[Jen2310]

I think the Buckley boys are 20 and 18 aren’t they ?

ayce is prob 16, and Jett 18/19
Ayce's last footy game was start of 2023 and that was U15

 

[Mollythedolly]

ayce is prob 16, and Jett 18/19
Ayce's last footy game was start of 2023 and that was U15

Should have made them board with Peter Daicos.

 

[Harry O]

ayce is prob 16, and Jett 18/19
Ayce's last footy game was start of 2023 and that was U15

He was playing under 14’s 4 years ago.
Maybe stuck in time

 

[loki04]

I think the Buckley boys are 20 and 18 aren’t they ?

ayce is prob 16, and Jett 18/19
Ayce's last footy game was start of 2023 and that was U15

He was playing under 14’s 4 years ago.
Maybe stuck in time

Family first: Nathan Buckley suggests he’ll stay in Victoria

Nathan Buckley has indicated that his family situation would make it difficult for him to move out of Victoria over the next few years – a position that appears to rule him out of coaching positions outside the state in that period.

www.theage.com.au

"Buckley, whose sons Jett (15) and Ayce (13)"
Article from 2022 so Jens ages would be about right 16 and 18.

Regardless neither look to be playing AFL any time soon with interest in other things.

 

[loki04]

Should have made them board with Peter Daicos.

I often wonder the impacts through covid of lack of footy and also seeing Dad get mauled in the media and fans turning at the game had on thier love for the sport.

You could see it when Buckley embraced one after a win when he was under the pump the kids were feeling it to.

 

[Carlthetruth]

I often wonder the impacts through covid of lack of footy and also seeing Dad get mauled in the media and fans turning at the game had on thier love for the sport.

You could see it when Buckley embraced one after a win when he was under the pump the kids were feeling it to.

Or the boys just aren't good football players.

 

[loki04]

Or the boys just aren't good football players.

Pre covid they had positive wraps on them, they then turned to go karting at a very young age sub 15 footy took a back seat.

Their footy interests died off during covid.

 

[Carlthetruth]

Pre covid they had positive wraps on them, they then turned to go karting at a very young age sub 15 footy took a back seat.

Their footy interests died off during covid.

From who? They probably just weren't very good.