List Mgmt. COLLINGWOOD Trade and F/A Discussion 2022-->

[Anzacday]

Key dates attached so we know what’s going on when.

• Friday 30 September at 9.00am

• AFL Restricted Free Agency and Unrestricted Free Agency Period commences

Monday 03 October at 9.00am

• AFL Trade Period commences – Players & Selections

Friday 07 October at 5.00pm

• Close of AFL Restricted Free Agency Offer and Unrestricted Free Agency Period.

Monday 10 October

• AFL Draft Nominations open (9am)
• AFL Restricted Free Agency Matching Offer 3 Day Period Ends (5pm)

Wednesday 12 October at 7.30pm

• AFL Trade Period closes – players and selections

Thursday 03 November at 9.00am

• AFL Delisted Player Free Agency Period (1) commences

Wednesday 09 November at 5.00pm

• AFL Delisted Player Free Agency Period (1) closes

Friday 11 November at 9.00am

• AFL Delisted Player Free Agency Period (2) commences

Tuesday 15 November by 5.00pm

• AFL Delisted Player Free Agency Period (2) closes
• AFL Trade Period closes – selections only

Monday 21 November by 3.00pm

• AFL Draft Nominations close

Monday 28 November at 7.10pm

• 2022 AFL Draft Round One (Venue TBC)
• Father/Son, Academy & NGA and Players Bidding opens.

Tuesday 29 November

• AFL Trade Period – selections only (5.45pm to 6.30pm)
• 2022 AFL National Draft Round two until completion (7pm)
• Rookie Upgrade Period opens (10pm)
• AFL Delisted Player Free Agency Period (3) commences (10pm)
• Rookie Upgrade Period closes (11pm)
• AFL Delisted Player Free Agency Period (3) closes (11pm)

Wednesday 30 November

• AFL Pre-Season Draft (3pm, online)
• AFL Rookie Draft (3.20pm, online)

Thursday 01 December by 4.00pm

• Final AFL Club List Lodgement

 

[LuckyLee]

Based on that I’d say we’ll be getting a first rounder of some sort which is what I have thought would be the case all along.

This is in no way the same as the Treloar situation and nothing like the Suns…..so all things considered, a first seems fair value!!

I think you’re optimistically mis-reading it.


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[stormskye]

If he does go we'll get a 1st round compo pick.

A pick in the late teens is not compo for Degoey

 

[loki04]

So a player could just stand there and watch the ball go out and get a free. That'd be a real improvement. FFS.

Exactly what happens in juniors when that rule is used.

 

[Jen2310]

 

[LuckyLee]

It may even end up being their future first considering this year’s draft is rated highly. Make no mistake we don’t have the whip hand here.

Yep. I’ve been saying all along that it will be Treloar v2.0

Forced sale. Only one bidder. Damaged goods. Was always going to end badly.


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[HFF]

We can match any JDG offer.
This will be a straight forward outcome…he’s obviously staying

 

[JuniorB]

lol in the teens awesome.

Yeah not much chop. We could also match and force St Kilda to trade - we'd want 2 1st rounders.

 

[stormskye]

Yep. I’ve been saying all along that it will be Treloar v2.0

Forced sale. Only one bidder. Damaged goods. Was always going to end badly.


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Time will tell. But with Jackson leaving, Melb are somewhat pressured to replace him. Dogs weren’t. I think a first is likely with us paying.

 

[JuniorB]

Logan Mac, come on down!

 

[JuniorB]

Laconic: effective communication using few words
Laconic: effective action seemingly with little effort

It's essentially a reapplication of the meaning/vibe of the original.

Words get recontexualised all the time. This is hardly an egregious example. Seems a fitting use of the word to me. And dictionaries are descriptive not prescriptive, they change with usage.

Literally being used to mean figuratively is an egregious example. Dictionaries are being updated with the alternative though.

Another one that annoys me is the constant misuse of "in good stead". It's "stand", not hold or keep.

 

[LuckyLee]

He’ll be disappointed for sure but why would he leave? In a year’s time both Buddy and Reid will be gone and he’ll be the Swans’ number one tall forward.


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[Jen2310]

He’ll be disappointed for sure but why would he leave? In a year’s time both Buddy and Reid will be gone and he’ll be the Swans’ number one tall forward.


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There is no time for logic right now lol

 

[JuniorB]

There is no time for logic right now lol

I was going to say something along the same lines, Jen!

 

[Pragmatic Shill]

The sticking point being a behavioural clause should only be a sticking point if De Goey doesn't think he has the capacity to behave.

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[JLC]

Logan Mac, come on down!

Plus Buddy is playing for another season.

I would be into both McLean and McDonald and shake one from the tree.

People said McDonald is not realistic but I reckon it should be realistic
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[No SPIN]

Just a hypothetical - if Grundy was willing and offered to renegotiate his salary at $800k per year, should we keep him?

Definitely

 

[jonbe54]

The sticking point being a behavioural clause should only be a sticking point if De Goey doesn't think he has the capacity to behave.

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Amen to that.

 

[neilk]

A pick in the late teens is not compo for Degoey

Won't we lose the pick when we pick up McStay as an RFA?

 

[satanshoof101]

Plus Buddy is playing for another season.

I would be into both McLean and McDonald and shake one from the tree.

People said McDonald is not realistic but I reckon it should be realistic
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Logan Mcdonald is a pies supporter as well

 

[MightyRoar]

I think you’re optimistically mis-reading it.


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Haha just how I’ve been reading it mate but happy to eat my words should I be wrong when it all comes out.

Like us all we can only go off what we read in the media which as we know, can be way off the mark.

What I will say though, is that we all pick bits and pieces out of stories to suit our own arguments, just like you have with your point of;

“Notable that it says Dees will “hand over a draft selection” and NOT that they would hand over one of the two first rounders that they’re getting in return for Jackson.”

Whereas with me I think there’s 2 points that really stand out, which are;

1 - “Melbourne is prepared to deal fairly with Collingwood on Brodie Grundy’s certain trade to the Demons”…….now to me a second rounder isn’t fair if we are paying a significant amount towards his contract.

2 - “Grundy will find his way to the Demons and while only one suitor means there is no bidding war over his services the Demons are prepared to make a suitable trade that reflects his worth as a 28-year-old.”

A late first rounder reflects his worth IMO.

 

[Jonno94]

Ouch, they probably don't want Reid rucking with the injury concern so McLean is a better fit.

 

[leon123]

The sticking point being a behavioural clause should only be a sticking point if De Goey doesn't think he has the capacity to behave.

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couldnt blame him.... in my eyes he has never mis-behaved, im guessing he;d see it that way as well

 

[gouki88]

So a player could just stand there and watch the ball go out and get a free. That'd be a real improvement. FFS.

What would the difference be between that and him gathering possession?

 

[Go Woods]

Logan Mac, come on down!

Yep, pull the McStay offer and put that contract in front of LM.

 

[Robroy22]

He’ll be disappointed for sure but why would he leave? In a year’s time both Buddy and Reid will be gone and he’ll be the Swans’ number one tall forward.


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He'll be the sub surely or an emergency. Reid is very unlikely to play for mine.