List Mgmt. COLLINGWOOD Trade and F/A Discussion 2022-->

[Anzacday]

Key dates attached so we know what’s going on when.

• Friday 30 September at 9.00am

• AFL Restricted Free Agency and Unrestricted Free Agency Period commences

Monday 03 October at 9.00am

• AFL Trade Period commences – Players & Selections

Friday 07 October at 5.00pm

• Close of AFL Restricted Free Agency Offer and Unrestricted Free Agency Period.

Monday 10 October

• AFL Draft Nominations open (9am)
• AFL Restricted Free Agency Matching Offer 3 Day Period Ends (5pm)

Wednesday 12 October at 7.30pm

• AFL Trade Period closes – players and selections

Thursday 03 November at 9.00am

• AFL Delisted Player Free Agency Period (1) commences

Wednesday 09 November at 5.00pm

• AFL Delisted Player Free Agency Period (1) closes

Friday 11 November at 9.00am

• AFL Delisted Player Free Agency Period (2) commences

Tuesday 15 November by 5.00pm

• AFL Delisted Player Free Agency Period (2) closes
• AFL Trade Period closes – selections only

Monday 21 November by 3.00pm

• AFL Draft Nominations close

Monday 28 November at 7.10pm

• 2022 AFL Draft Round One (Venue TBC)
• Father/Son, Academy & NGA and Players Bidding opens.

Tuesday 29 November

• AFL Trade Period – selections only (5.45pm to 6.30pm)
• 2022 AFL National Draft Round two until completion (7pm)
• Rookie Upgrade Period opens (10pm)
• AFL Delisted Player Free Agency Period (3) commences (10pm)
• Rookie Upgrade Period closes (11pm)
• AFL Delisted Player Free Agency Period (3) closes (11pm)

Wednesday 30 November

• AFL Pre-Season Draft (3pm, online)
• AFL Rookie Draft (3.20pm, online)

Thursday 01 December by 4.00pm

• Final AFL Club List Lodgement

 

[No SPIN]

No chance Ruscoe departs imo, he was coming on well last year down back but has had a bit of an injury-interrupted season earlier this year and we've been relatively well-preserved down back this year so not many opportunities for him to get and then cement a spot.

Absolutely killed it in the last round against the scum, shame he couldn't back it up in the final the following week.

He's 193cm / 93kg and he's shown an ability to execute aggressive kicks in-board to open up play through the middle which is something Fly appears to value quite a bit. Not someone you give up on at the ripe old age of 20 I don't think. Maybe a Jeremy Howe replacement a couple of years down the line if he can add a bit of zoning off/ intercepting and 1v1 defending to his game?

Agree - I’m hoping 2023 is Ruscoe’s break out year.

 

[Apex36]

Hmmmmm….

Brody Mihocek and Daniel McStay AFL Stats Comparison

Brody Mihocek and Daniel McStay AFL Stats Comparison.

www.footywire.com

Seems to take more marks and more contested marks than McStay.

But apparently I’m the one who doesn’t watch football…

 

[Everybody Panic]

Hmmmmm….

Brody Mihocek and Daniel McStay AFL Stats Comparison

Brody Mihocek and Daniel McStay AFL Stats Comparison.

www.footywire.com

Seems to take more marks and more contested marks than McStay.

Except for this season.

 

[WakeUpPies]

Except for this season.

In a lesser role, too. No doubt will be a great addition to the Pies!

 

[Jafo]

So where does Kruger play now that McStay comes in?

Or Kruger goes back?

 

[SnakePlisskin]

Blicsavs is the real deal of utilities. Only Kouta was more versatile

Pavlich was super versatile.

 

[HFF]

So where does Kruger play now that McStay comes in?

Or Kruger goes back?

I wouldn’t be surprised if he replaces Cox in that second ruck role.
He has the tools to cover the ground really well too

 

[Mollythedolly]

But apparently I’m the one who doesn’t watch football…

I just don’t understand this height demarcation. Built like a KP player, plays like a KP player, given the KP role by his coaches, is a KP player. A difference of 1 or 2 cm’s doesn’t change that. Steven May was an AA KPD this year and he’s a whole 10mm’s taller at 193cm.

 

[sr36]

Because nice guys come last. To survive in this caper, McRae needs to be ruthless and I think he is. Clearly he didn't like what the delisted players brought.

I realise he is only part of the decision making process of who gets delisted and who comes to the club, but I'd imagine his voice would carry a fair bit of weight in the conversation. The Brown name is like Collingwood royalty but it counted for naught this week - not that I am opposed to the decision that was made I might add.

Get with the times. Steve Waugh and Alastair Clarkson are yesterday's heroes. It's the time for Bazball and Macraeball. Sure they have to drop blokes, but they don't have to be pricks. In fact it helps if they're not.

 

[KJpie]

This is from the Fox Footy website:

"It’s believed Brisbane were able to match the length of Collingwood’s offer, but not the money."

Highly unlikely based on the big coin the Brions are throwing at Dunkley

 

[tranquilli lace]

On the one hand that sounds great because it might be good business, indicates things are going smoothly, trade will get done… on the other you hope it’s not “basically done already” because we were a pushover at the table.

Not sure about you, but Wright doesn’t give off strong pushover vibes to me.

 

[HFF]

Surely that's not right with the money required to lure Dunkley from the Dogs

It doesn’t make a good story if you dont spin it.

 

[TradeDraft]

 

[Mollythedolly]

Except for this season.

Checkers season was a story of 2 halves. Playing hurt the 2nd half of the year I reckon. Even then, still matched McStay for contested marks, beat him convincingly on marks I50m, and scoreboard impact. Career to date, Checkers is demonstrably the better KPF. Silly to suggest otherwise.

 

[Everybody Panic]

Checkers season was a story of 2 halves. Playing hurt the 2nd half of the year I reckon. Even then, still matched McStay for contested marks, beat him convincingly on marks I50m, and scoreboard impact. Career to date, Checkers is demonstrably the better KPF. Silly to suggest otherwise.

Yes, because Cekkers plays a deeper full forward. You can pick and choose which one to suit your argument, or just accept they play different roles with their teams.

 

[Everybody Panic]

So where does Kruger play now that McStay comes in?

Or Kruger goes back?

Replaces Cox. If fit I wouldn't be surprised if he puts pressure on Mihoceks spot also.

 

[Fonzeno1]

Blicsavs is the real deal of utilities. Only Kouta was more versatile

Pavlich was super versatile.

Adam Goodes?

 

[Mollythedolly]

This is from the Fox Footy website:

"It’s believed Brisbane were able to match the length of Collingwood’s offer, but not the money."

McStay is an unrestricted free agent, so Brisbane didn't have the option of matching the contract, so the $$ is pure speculation.
It doesn't sound as if money was the primary motivator in McStay's decision to leave.

I think they’re suggesting that if the Lions could have matched the $$$s, McStay would have stayed. Not that they could match to force a trade.

 

[PIEWITHSAUCE]

I'm not expecting anything similar , but he certainly moves a lot like Shai Bolton

 

[Mollythedolly]

In a lesser role, too. No doubt will be a great addition to the Pies!

It’s just amazing how much easier it is when you’re regularly getting the oppositions 3rd best tall defensive option rather than their best.

 

[Matrix10]

Adam Goodes?

Booooooooo.

 

[WakeUpPies]

It’s just amazing how much easier it is when you’re regularly getting the oppositions 3rd best tall defensive option rather than their best.

What do you have against McStay? Who else can we go after to improve the side?

 

[PIEWITHSAUCE]

So $250-$300k of the $600k freed up by Grundy will go to Hayes.
Unless we get fantastic picks for Grundy, $300-$350k in cap space released is really not worth it.
I’d happily take the punt that Grundy will thrive under McCrae like so many others.

I'm not sure this is all about logic - what you say makes sense but I get the feeling it's as much about drawing a line in the sand with certain parameters - could be one or more of contract size/length , amount allocated to rucks/one player , team sacrifice....whatever.

 

[stormskye]

Checkers season was a story of 2 halves. Playing hurt the 2nd half of the year I reckon. Even then, still matched McStay for contested marks, beat him convincingly on marks I50m, and scoreboard impact. Career to date, Checkers is demonstrably the better KPF. Silly to suggest otherwise.

You realise mcstay plays up the ground for bris? Comparing those stats makes no sense. They’ve played completely different roles

 

[Go Woods]

Have the Pies re-signed WHE or is he still without a contract?

Reckon he’ll get a year on minimum chips once all the trades are done and resigning of remaining required players is completed.