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[Anzacday]

Key dates attached so we know what’s going on when.

• Friday 30 September at 9.00am

• AFL Restricted Free Agency and Unrestricted Free Agency Period commences

Monday 03 October at 9.00am

• AFL Trade Period commences – Players & Selections

Friday 07 October at 5.00pm

• Close of AFL Restricted Free Agency Offer and Unrestricted Free Agency Period.

Monday 10 October

• AFL Draft Nominations open (9am)
• AFL Restricted Free Agency Matching Offer 3 Day Period Ends (5pm)

Wednesday 12 October at 7.30pm

• AFL Trade Period closes – players and selections

Thursday 03 November at 9.00am

• AFL Delisted Player Free Agency Period (1) commences

Wednesday 09 November at 5.00pm

• AFL Delisted Player Free Agency Period (1) closes

Friday 11 November at 9.00am

• AFL Delisted Player Free Agency Period (2) commences

Tuesday 15 November by 5.00pm

• AFL Delisted Player Free Agency Period (2) closes
• AFL Trade Period closes – selections only

Monday 21 November by 3.00pm

• AFL Draft Nominations close

Monday 28 November at 7.10pm

• 2022 AFL Draft Round One (Venue TBC)
• Father/Son, Academy & NGA and Players Bidding opens.

Tuesday 29 November

• AFL Trade Period – selections only (5.45pm to 6.30pm)
• 2022 AFL National Draft Round two until completion (7pm)
• Rookie Upgrade Period opens (10pm)
• AFL Delisted Player Free Agency Period (3) commences (10pm)
• Rookie Upgrade Period closes (11pm)
• AFL Delisted Player Free Agency Period (3) closes (11pm)

Wednesday 30 November

• AFL Pre-Season Draft (3pm, online)
• AFL Rookie Draft (3.20pm, online)

Thursday 01 December by 4.00pm

• Final AFL Club List Lodgement

 

[MoreMoore]

Grundy is Going so we need Good Ruckman

The answer is Darcy Moore into the ruck
Frampton CHB and Dean or McMahon FB
Picture Darcy leaping over opposition rucks and roaming free all over the ground

 

[BigVic]

Hill would be a good get

 

[satanshoof101]

Those third rounders will be used in trades we are making, e.g hill.

I honestly forgot about the trades

The answer is Darcy Moore into the ruck
Frampton CHB and Dean or McMahon FB
Picture Darcy leaping over opposition rucks and roaming free all over the ground

If we all knew the backline would not suffer at all that would be amazing

 

[Apex36]

The answer is Darcy Moore into the ruck
Frampton CHB and Dean or McMahon FB
Picture Darcy leaping over opposition rucks and roaming free all over the ground

I’d be all for it if I thought his body could handle it. He could easily be the best ruck in the comp, but alas, I’m almost certain it would ruin him.

 

[SpongePie]

Not sure where Jon Ralph has actually stated this though
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In case anyone out there that has nfi who he is (like me)...

Sam Hayes of the Port Adelaide Power Player Profile and AFL Stats

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[Doc1763]

The answer is Darcy Moore into the ruck
Frampton CHB and Dean or McMahon FB
Picture Darcy leaping over opposition rucks and roaming free all over the ground

That's like driving the Ferrari in a demolition derby.

 

[WakeUpPies]

Yea not sure I'd feel comfortable seeing Darcy throwing himself into ruck contests full time. I just imagine him smacking knees all game.

 

[TheGreatGrundy]

On The Couch

Grundy gone wants go to Melbourne and Melbourne only.

Interesting just hope we don't give him away like Treloar but sounds like we will get sweet * all.

We always lose.

 

[Daicos Daze]

Yea not sure I'd feel comfortable seeing Darcy throwing himself into ruck contests full time. I just imagine him smacking knees all game.

Rather Darcy Moore up at CHF

 

[KillerMagpies]

Re Grundy: the five stages of grief are:

• denial
• anger
• bargaining
• depression
• acceptance

I think we are all at various stages . I’m at acceptance. We have a good crew steering the ship. In fly we trust.

Floreat Pica.

Agree.
It’s happening.
I’m tipping it’s been a long time coming…as in, last year.
When Wright opened the books on Ned Guy’s clusterf##k he must’ve popped an aneurysm.
Treloar, Stephenson, Phillips all ended up on the block (all players have regressed).
Grundy has moped around and been hot and cold for 2 years, even blaming an inability to “cope with covid bubbles”. I’m tipping he knew his head was on the block and was struggling to perform to the level of his payment (only the true greats like Buckley and Judd etc can deal with the pressure to live up to contracts).
Wright (and Bolton) were a huge part of what happened at Hawthorn. Nothing is happening by accident. This next month that unfolds has been planned since last year and the next 2 or 3 years are already planned.
I’m not sweating on any first rounder from Melbourne (or anything else of that nature). Wright has plans B….C…and D.
Be sure of that!

 

[The Royal Sampler]

At most Frampton has to be traded for a pick we wont use and given a 1 year contract on minimum chips. Anything more is overs and there is nothing to force us to make it any sweeter.

We supposedly beat out a St Kilda offer, so it won’t be one year or minimum chips.

 

[Ginnieboy]

The answer is Darcy Moore into the ruck
Frampton CHB and Dean or McMahon FB
Picture Darcy leaping over opposition rucks and roaming free all over the ground

The only problem with Moore is we don’t have 3 of him, my idea was to play McStay down back and send Moore to FF, and give him a decent crack at it this time.

 

[TheGreatGrundy]

The answer is Darcy Moore into the ruck
Frampton CHB and Dean or McMahon FB
Picture Darcy leaping over opposition rucks and roaming free all over the ground

Weakens the defence with 2 untried players in the key positions. Though I would love to see Moore play 1st ruck.

 

[mocamagic]

Is Frampton actually any good?

 

[KillerMagpies]

The only problem with Moore is we don’t have 3 of him, my idea was to play McStay down back and send Moore to FF, and give him a decent crack at it this time.

Giving Moore free reign at CHB, with our run and gun style would be absolutely INSANE!!!

 

[neilk]

Is Frampton actually any good?

Port and the Crows don't appear to think he is.

 

[Obese Arachnid]

Lion can unlock $4.5m deal amid play for Hawk; meeting ensures Grundy’s exit: Trade Whispers

Key to $4.5m Lions deal amid play for Hawk; chat ensures Grundy exit: Trade Whispers

www.foxsports.com.au

"My understanding is the football boss Graham Wright met with Grundy’s management and said we need his cap space off the boks."


Even when it wasn't the Saffers, I knew it was the Saffers!

 

[cityslick1]

Im so confused as to why people think Grundy should give up 20-30% of his wages for the club. The club that he signed that contract at just 2? years ago. 30% potentially is a bunch of money to just throw away. The guy is 28 and is making enough cash that could help set him and any family has for a great life. No one else is expected to take that sort of wage decrease.

Because he signed it before the covid crunch… and on the basis that we were getting an AA quality ruckman, which he isn’t anymore. And because he and his wage bill are holding us back from competing for a flag. Yes we agreed to the deal, but it’s up to him now to either hold us to it, or not, or move on. But there are Plenty of reasons why - in an equitable world - he could or should accept less, to keep playing for us.

 

[SchuPie]

No love for Szybkowski?

Tbh Matt, I’ve only looked up his stats in the past
The others I researched bc of how they were talked about on the boards / media
If he’s the best inside option then yes please

 

[KillerMagpies]

Grundy lost me 3 times, last year….
1) Round 1 vs Dogs when he was strolling around, in the MCG corridor as we were getting pumped.
2) Freezing to death as I watched him getting nullified by inept GWS rucks on a miserable Saturday MCG night.
3) Watching Cameron and Lynch do to Gawn/Jackson on Buck’s last game at the SCG, what he had failed to do for the whole year.
…. He had signed his own papers.

 

[Bramax]

Lol this stretch. Lynch didnt play 17, Boyd had a good series, they finished not even top 4. Brown is barely better than Cekkers last year. Indeed you can argue that the losing teams in those GF often had the better key forwards. Naughton, Hawkins,
This is a sure sign you have no idea what you're taking about. You don't know how much his contract is nor is there such thing as "performing at 600k". If the club made a bad contract, that is purely and clearly a fault of the club, and attacking a player who has given everything over his whole career for the pies is pathetic.

I'd love to see your face when your boss calls you a tool for not taking a 30% pay decrease when you've just been out sick despite working your ass off since you were 18 for them.

And Swans haven’t won a flag with Buddy yet. One million a year and no flags to date means it hasn’t worked.

 

[Matrix10]

Seems that is a certainty

Grundy is nowhere on his form from a few years back

But all the best at his new club

Faaark him , the greed karma bus has done a U turn to pick him up and send him on his way to football oblivion

 

[Bramax]

You're late to the party.

Yeah 2017 was 3 time Coleman medallist J Reiwoldt . Another ordinary key forward.

And thanks for adding the losing team on GF day also had elite key forwards. I wasn't going there but happy you brought it up to add more evidence.n

Doesn’t always work. Look at Sydney.

 

[Matrix10]

Is Frampton actually any good?

As a musician , pretty good. Football , the jury is out

 

[magpies42]

"My understanding is the football boss Graham Wright met with Grundy’s management and said we need his cap space off the boks."


Even when it wasn't the Saffers, I knew it was the Saffers!

I’ve been confused by this rationale all along…we are not achieving a single thing by ‘offloading’ Grundy and retaining 300k of his contract, we will never get a better player at the residual price. Only way it makes sense is if we get two early first round picks and we have some players targeted for those. We know that won’t happen though….