List Mgmt. COLLINGWOOD Trade and F/A Discussion 2023

[regpies]

I'm surprised that the media hasn't made a bigger deal about the Geelong and Mackie shitshow. Here's a club that has stayed towards the top for a decade by topping up their list annually with players wanting to go home or looking for success.

Now Ratugolea has asked to go to Port TWICE in two years and they are saying no. Pick 24 is actually great for them for a player that was playing VFL. Chris Scott on 360 said that key defenders are worth too much and they want to keep him but last year with Ollie Henry the commentary was how Collingwood were mean because we were stopping a home sick kid go home to play with his brother. And then traded out the picks that would have got the deal done which meant it nearly didn't get done. But in the end Mackie got his way and the thing that pissed me off the most was his cocky snarky stupid face thinking he was the trade messiah at the end.

So I'm really hoping Port win this one even though they are a bigger threat to us next year.

The bigger thing is they are old, missed finals and he’s done nothing this trade period.

How do you miss finals and sit on your hands. Great list managing.

 

[lethalburns]

I was watching Shultz highlights and I don't see the appeal.

Looks slow and short and kicks a lot of goals out the back through his smarts. In some ways he is an older/stronger Ginni.

If we give up 2 picks or a future first rounder I'll be disappointed.

 

[vindaloo]

19 and 38 with pick 45 coming back our way is more than adequate for schultz. Under no circumstances do we entertain our future first!

 

[Couch Coach]

Why would 19 alone not be enough?

Peter Bell.

He is in the same mould as Dodo and Mackie.

 

[CasuallyDressed]

Peter Bell.

He is in the same mould as Dodo and Mackie.

Nothing is in the mould of Andrew Mackie.

Dudes ****ed in the head.

 

[Matt_352]

Peter Bell.

He is in the same mould as Dodo and Mackie.

So a flipping ******* moron

 

[GCPie]

I would offer Freo 33 and 38 (and keep our 1st rounder) - take it or leave it and we get him for free next year.
I think something else is also happening that we are not seeing until next Wednesday.

 

[Exambolor]

Nothing is in the mould of Andrew Mackie.

Dudes ****ed in the head.

He’s obsessed with trying to win every trade, like Dodoro, how’s that gone for 20 years?

Wrighty gets stuff done and gets players we need and we get a flag out of it

 

[riddick78]

The bigger thing is they are old, missed finals and he’s done nothing this trade period.

How do you miss finals and sit on your hands. Great list managing.

Mackie is like that drunk racist uncle, no one wants anything to do with him, but your mum is forcing you to go talk to him.

I hope the Ratugolea trade falls through and he nominates the draft and they get nothing for him. I actually feel sorry for him (Ratugolea), it's clear he wants out of the Cats.

 

[ElliottsMaggies]

Nothing is in the mould of Andrew Mackie.

Dudes ****ed in the head.

Cats are wasting so much time on a player (Esava) they don't even want.

And treating Hawkins like a nuisance.

 

[riddick78]

Cats are wasting so much time on a player (Esava) they don't even want.

And treating Hawkins like a nuisance.

Just to win a pissing contest.

 

[Exambolor]

Cats are wasting so much time on a player (Esava) they don't even want.

And treating Hawkins like a nuisance.

I have a lot of respect for Stephen Wells, he was a master of getting good deals for not much, again like Wrighty

If he was still at the helm these deals would have been done

 

[VinnieB]

How is 19 not enough by itself! * off!

I agree but with these sorts of things, it’s probably more about how much is he worth to us? I think he will be an excellent addition and an upgrade to our half forward line. I would continue to push for this year’s 1st and maybe next years 2nd if they need something else to get it done.

 

[legendstatus]

Not overly excited about Shultz, would be even more disappointed if we give 1st & 2nd picks. Hey Freo, take 19 or 33 and **** off or keep the Umpa lumpa.

Rather a crack at Esva or Howard or even get Billings cheap.

Sick on not being in a good position with picks

 

[CasuallyDressed]

Not overly excited about Shultz, would be even more disappointed if we give 1st & 2nd picks. Hey Freo, take 19 or 33 and * off or keep the Umpa lumpa.

Rather a crack at Esva or Howard or even get Billings cheap.

Sick on not being in a good position with picks

Bro Mackie would ask for Naicos for Esava... probably more.

We shouldn't deal with Geelong at all.

 

[Chameleon75]

I would offer Freo 33 and 38 (and keep our 1st rounder) - take it or leave it and we get him for free next year.
I think something else is also happening that we are not seeing until next Wednesday.

dodoro likes this, it’s how how he approached bobby hill

Chances are we don’t get him next year, other clubs were planning to make a play for him next year, we’ve just jumped them by going for him now, but next year we’ll be in a bidding war.

My guess is it’ll be a 1st + GST.

 

[CasuallyDressed]

I would offer Freo 33 and 38 (and keep our 1st rounder) - take it or leave it and we get him for free next year.
I think something else is also happening that we are not seeing until next Wednesday.

Like Carlton did with Papley?

It doesn't work like that - you also run the risk of burning the bridge with Schultz for not getting the deal done.

 

[Sweeetleftfoot]

I would offer Freo 33 and 38 (and keep our 1st rounder) - take it or leave it and we get him for free next year.
I think something else is also happening that we are not seeing until next Wednesday.

Incorrect, he can go to whoever he pleases. Suitors will come with more money.
Fremantle would laugh at 33 and 38

 

[Pleasedontfail11]

I almost feel sorry for Port this trade period they have 3 deals to do. Two of them involve Essendon and one with Geelong. The Port board must be melting right now.

 

[Jafo]

I almost feel sorry for Port this trade period they have 3 deals to do. Two of them involve Essendon and one with Geelong. The Port board must be melting right now.

It still feels good to be ladder leaders in July

 

[GCPie]

19 should be the max offer then.
Is Schultz a player of immediate need ?
Now if it was a ruckman or a KPF - then yes - I just don't see small forward as a position of need.

 

[VinnieB]

That's the kind of risk you take for star KPP or absolute a-grade midfielder not some 30 goal a year pressure forward that has never been AA

You’re not going to get a star KPP for a pick in the teens prior to all the other BS that could get added on.

 

[12kilos]

Bro Mackie would ask for Naicos for Esava... probably more.

We shouldn't deal with Geelong at all.

I think he has asked for Butters and ports future 2nd round pick for Esava.
Must have had Deforo as his mentor

 

[nahnah]

I think we are happy giving up slight overs on targets and slight unders on players going out with the view that we are probably going to really hand pick targets over the next few seasons with increasing cap space, winning culture, biggest club, very happy players that speak openly about the club in a super positive way... best to appear to be the nice guys in trade period

 

[VinnieB]

19 should be the max offer then.
Is Schultz a player of immediate need ?
Now if it was a ruckman or a KPF - then yes - I just don't see small forward as a position of need.

I think this guy could be our best small forward. Can hit the scoreboard, apply pressure, strong in goal assists etc.