List Mgmt. COLLINGWOOD Trade and F/A Discussion

[gouki88]

Why wouldn't he be? After all, he has all but scoffed at the worth of premierships, so going to a team unlikely to win one shouldn't be much of a deterrence.

This is just complete and utter garbage.

 

[Horaceg]

Yeah, we only have a faux-ranga, Johnny Noble.

Johnnys in denial, needs to embrace it

 

[gouki88]

Just this once I’d love us to pull off a real trade coup (old/broken Tom Mitchell doesn’t count). A Dangerfield, Franklin, J.Cameron, Tom Lynch, Lachie Neal type of coup.

We really haven’t landed one since Buckley and Ant Rocca. That was a looooong time ago.

With McRae and wright at the helm, will we finally be seen as a destination club?


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Jolly?

 

[TheGreatGrundy]

This is just complete and utter garbage.

It was a bit tongue in cheek. But if my posts are to be summarily dismissed in this manner, I will switch to 100% serious mode so as not to upset the funereal tone of the thread.

 

[brockbruiser]

Pick in the 30s and they pay 200k of his 800k salary?

So paying $600k for someone who likely has 2 years left?

I'd rather pay $600k and a first round draft pick for someone of Hopper or Taranto who are peaking and can give us longer service.

 

[gouki88]

I'd be interested in data on the outcomes of Grundy's clearances. Lots of miscued sky balls that gain little territory and end up with the opposition is my perception. Are the additional clearances that we get beneficial?

We were the 3rd best scoring team from centre clearances and the 8th best scoring team from general stoppage clearance with Grundy in the team this season. Since he went down we have been the 17th and 14th team in those areas, respectively.

That indicates some significant value

 

[gouki88]

It was a bit tongue in cheek. But if my posts are to be summarily dismissed in this manner, I will switch to 100% serious mode so as not to upset the funereal tone of the thread.

Use more emoji to make it obvious

 

[thommo_legend]

So paying $600k for someone who likely has 2 years left?

I'd rather pay $600k and a first round draft pick for someone of Hopper or Taranto who are peaking and can give us longer service.

He has 1 year left on his contract

 

[TheGreatGrundy]

Use more emoji to make it obvious

I save them for posts which TD might misinterpret (of which the Grundy to Hawthorn post is probably one).

 

[gouki88]

I save them for posts which TD might misinterpret (of which the Grundy to Hawthorn post is probably one).

 

[neilk]

Jolly?

Ball?

 

[KinderSmock]

Well if Hawthorn is wanting to get rid of Mitchell, they're not doing the negotiating. A 29 year old former Brownlow medal winner? They can help pay his salary or we pay a bargain price to get him.

 

[gouki88]

Ball?

I can't remember how we got Ball. Was it through a trade, or some draft thing?

Either way, those two acquisitions were huge.

 

[nahnah]

I can't remember how we got Ball. Was it through a trade, or some draft thing?

Either way, those two acquisitions were huge.

We drafted him with pick 30 after Saints refused to trade even though we gave them decent offers

 

[NMBB]

It was a bit tongue in cheek. But if my posts are to be summarily dismissed in this manner, I will switch to 100% serious mode so as not to upset the funereal tone of the thread.

I'm putting the wobbly nature of this thread down to pre-game jitters, trade week apprehension and nervousness about the reduction in COVID iso requirements (the latter has clearly rattled the scientific community here)

 

[BEEG]

Tom Mitchell gives me beams 2018 vibes. Got ahead of ourselves with making the GF and made some poor decisions. We could easily miss finals next season with similar results not going our way. I don’t like it. If we can steal one this year then that’s amazing but we still have a list rebuild that needs to be done right. A 29 year old mid doesn’t fit for what he would likely cost.

Please

Tom Mitchell is a respected person at Hawthorn and a true professional he isn't a disgusting pig of a man like Beams.

Lets not get close to comparing the 2, Mitchell was played out of position the first half of the year.

I'm not saying we should go after him but the 2 situations are nothing alike.

 

[gouki88]

We drafted him with pick 30 after Saints refused to trade even though we gave them decent offers

That was my vague recollection - that Ross was being a toss(er).

 

[gouki88]

Please

Tom Mitchell is a respected person at Hawthorn and a true professional he isn't a disgusting pig of a man like Beams.

Lets not get close to comparing the 2, Mitchell was played out of position the first half of the year.

I'm not saying we should go after him but the 2 situations are nothing alike.

Agreed. In terms of professionalism and character, it is night and day

 

[AmericanMustard]

I’m not buying the Mitchell interest. But if we can move Grundy on and pay less on his salary, and pick Mitchell up to help the hawks out in return it’s a simple decision. Mitchell only has a year left on his deal, he’ll basically be a one year rental which could save us north of 500k over next 5 years or whatever is remaining on Grundy’s contract

 

[rdangelo]

If Grundy wants to land at the Hawks, can we also look at working Max Lynch back?

 

[gouki88]

If Grundy wants to land at the Hawks, can we also look at working Max Lynch back?

Why would we want to? He has been both disappointing and injured.

 

[live fast pieyoung]

If Mitchell story is true, I think CB and TB are definitely gone.

I cant see why they wouldnt be anyway
If they were available from another club or in the draft there is no way we would draft them now

 

[sr36]

We were the 3rd best scoring team from centre clearances and the 8th best scoring team from general stoppage clearance with Grundy in the team this season. Since he went down we have been the 17th and 14th team in those areas, respectively.

That indicates some significant value

It does. But I'd like to see the actual numbers in terms of scores - that shift may only be indicative of one goal and may be swallowed by an increase in scores against from clearances that are turned over.

 

[gouki88]

It does. But I'd like to see the actual numbers in terms of scores - that shift may only be indicative of one goal and may be swallowed by an increase in scores against from clearances that are turned over.

Agreed. I think the AFL would really benefit from some analytics nerds getting publicity. The NBA has people like Kirk Goldsberry and Thinking Basketball which are really interesting.

 

[KinderSmock]

If Grundy wants to land at the Hawks, can we also look at working Max Lynch back?

Unfortunately, there is no point in targeting a bloke with concussion issues.