List Mgmt. Collingwood Trade and FA

[mumblingpie]

When is this bloody rain stopping

 

[sam_e]

I can’t really understand this.With Krueger and Eyre being delisted we’re going to be incredibly short on key position depth next year.God help us if anything happens to Moore next year.

2025 List changes

Was going off footywire which had Steene as a rookie when he was promoted before the 2023 draft, still so it's 34 on the senior list. Basic premise remains the same though, were one spot short and need to shuffle the chess pieces to fit both Membrey and Tomlinson in. The option of promoting...

www.bigfooty.com

 

[ElliottsMaggies]

So if we only pick up Membrey. Do we have enough list spots for the draft now, or do we need to move players to the rookie list?

That's probably a question we normally would ask you Jen

 

[Matt_352]

Maybe they have confidence that Dean and frampton can come and play a role. Or maybe we can trial someone through SSP

That is super light on depth. Dangerously light.

 

[Kes1984]

Maybe they have confidence that Dean and frampton can come and play a role. Or maybe we can trial someone through SSP

Billy the hole plugger is our man

 

[Vinnie Vegas]

So if we only pick up Membrey. Do we have enough list spots for the draft now, or do we need to move players to the rookie list?

We don't HAVE to do anything, as we can go to 38 on the senior list.

 

[Kes1984]

When is this bloody rain stopping

The rain and thunder has inspired me to watch our round 24 win against Melbourne atm

 

[ElliottsMaggies]

That is super light on depth. Dangerously light.

If we invite Tomlinson as an SSP & bring him in, I'd say he offers more depth in defence than Eyre did.

Membrey replaces Kreugs as depth.

 

[Kes1984]

That's probably a question we normally would ask you Jen

I was actually thinking geez if Jen doesn’t know….!!

 

[celestial]

that tells me we are keen on drafting a kpd.

 

[Jen2310]

HAHAH, I hadn't done the maths today. Figured someone would know.

 

[Kappa]

Hey Jen2310 Do we have enough list spots for the draft now, or do we need to move players to the rookie list?

 

[sam_e]

So if we only pick up Membrey. Do we have enough list spots for the draft now, or do we need to move players to the rookie list?

38/4/2 - if only 2 picks at draft (+1 rookie upgrade)
34 currently including Perryman & Houston (which gives us 4 max to 38)
36 if we go +2 'freshies' at the draft
37 if we access Membrey +1 as UFA
38 rookie upgrade (let's say Smit)

which leaves Tomlinson to potentially be picked up as rookie (via SSP) ..in addition to 3 current rooks
(i. Sully, ii. Dean, iii. Long), giving us 4 catA rooks

so 38/4 and 2 cat B's (Parker, Condon)

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38/4/2 - if 3 picks at draft
34 currently including Perryman & Houston (which gives us 4 max to 38)
37 if we go +3 'freshies' at the draft
38 if we access Membrey +1 as UFA

which means we have full compliment of 38+4 (i. Sully, ii. Dean, iii. Long, iv. Smit) = 42, so Tomlinson can only be SSP'd if we put HH on LTi in the new year

 

[sr36]

So if we only pick up Membrey. Do we have enough list spots for the draft now, or do we need to move players to the rookie list?

We have enough spots, because we can go up to 38 on the main list.

 

[Matt_352]

If we invite Tomlinson as an SSP & bring him in, I'd say he offers more depth in defence than Eyre did.

Membrey replaces Kreugs as depth.

Happy with Key forward depth with Membrey coming in but what happens if 1 or more of Moore, Frampton, Dean get injured.

 

[Pistol Night]

Happy with Key forward depth with Membrey coming in but what happens if 1 or more of Moore, Frampton, Dean get injured.

McStay goes back or Howey has to play tall again?

 

[ElliottsMaggies]

Happy with Key forward depth with Membrey coming in but what happens if 1 or more of Moore, Frampton, Dean get injured.

That's why I mentioned Tomlinson..

 

[Kes1984]

That's why I mentioned Tomlinson..

I want him and Membrey. Disappointed if we’re not going for him as well.

 

[JuniorB]

Hi all.

Had to create an account to get something off my chest! But I have a feeling it won't be my last post.

The narrative of "risk" that's been peddled by the AFL media this week when it comes to our recruitment has been driving me up the wall. It's become patently obvious that within the sheltered workshop of the footy media there's:

1. Little to no understanding of risk identification and management.

2. A very old fashioned notion that there's anything remotely "safer" or "lower risk" in a club investing the majority of its capital in the draft, even a supposedly deep draft like this one.

Yes, we have an age profile that slants older but there are so many other factors to take into account. Experience, big game presence, cool heads under pressure. Proven ability and class. High standards and accountabilty. Leadership. Nous. These are things we have in abundance in our older players. And it wins finals.

If we're taking about risk, there is a MUCH greater risk in investing heavily in, say, pick 3 in the draft cough than there is for us in recruiting a two time (and current) AA star with one of the best kicks in the game, with big game experience and a quantifiable track record as a model professional both on and off the field. Or a DFA who kicks plenty of goals in an underwhelming side like St Kilda. That pick 3 guarantees you absolutely nothing. Zero.

And we also know there are different standards at play here. Geelong go for an injury riddled, underperforming 29 year old in Jack Martin as a DFA and we have to listen to the media drool over the decision. But getting a superstar in his prime like Houston, while trading away a future first that we won't use anyway is "going all in" and a "big risk".

Thanks for coming to my Ted Talk and I'll make sure my next post is a bit shorter!

Nice first post!
I agree with you!

 

[Pistol Night]

Hi all.

Had to create an account to get something off my chest! But I have a feeling it won't be my last post.

The narrative of "risk" that's been peddled by the AFL media this week when it comes to our recruitment has been driving me up the wall. It's become patently obvious that within the sheltered workshop of the footy media there's:

1. Little to no understanding of risk identification and management.

2. A very old fashioned notion that there's anything remotely "safer" or "lower risk" in a club investing the majority of its capital in the draft, even a supposedly deep draft like this one.

Yes, we have an age profile that slants older but there are so many other factors to take into account. Experience, big game presence, cool heads under pressure. Proven ability and class. High standards and accountabilty. Leadership. Nous. These are things we have in abundance in our older players. And it wins finals.

If we're taking about risk, there is a MUCH greater risk in investing heavily in, say, pick 3 in the draft cough than there is for us in recruiting a two time (and current) AA star with one of the best kicks in the game, with big game experience and a quantifiable track record as a model professional both on and off the field. Or a DFA who kicks plenty of goals in an underwhelming side like St Kilda. That pick 3 guarantees you absolutely nothing. Zero.

And we also know there are different standards at play here. Geelong go for an injury riddled, underperforming 29 year old in Jack Martin as a DFA and we have to listen to the media drool over the decision. But getting a superstar in his prime like Houston, while trading away a future first that we won't use anyway is "going all in" and a "big risk".

Thanks for coming to my Ted Talk and I'll make sure my next post is a bit shorter!

Please feel free to post here and on the main board whenever possible. The Carlton folk will hate this type of realism

 

[Matt_352]

I want him and Membrey. Disappointed if we’re not going for him as well.

Yeah it makes zero sense to not pick him up.

 

[Apex36]

Happy with Key forward depth with Membrey coming in but what happens if 1 or more of Moore, Frampton, Dean get injured.

99% sure that Reef is going to be playing defence this year.

 

[Pistol Night]

99% sure that Reef is going to be playing defence this year.

He needs to be put in a set position and left there i think so we can see what he can actually do. I rate him

 

[Jen2310]

He needs to be put in a set position and left there i think so we can see what he can actually do. I rate him

I agree. He needs to settle somewhere so he can put 150% effort into the one positon rather than being swapped between forward. Mid. Defence.

 

[sr36]

Hi all.

Had to create an account to get something off my chest! But I have a feeling it won't be my last post.

The narrative of "risk" that's been peddled by the AFL media this week when it comes to our recruitment has been driving me up the wall. It's become patently obvious that within the sheltered workshop of the footy media there's:

1. Little to no understanding of risk identification and management.

2. A very old fashioned notion that there's anything remotely "safer" or "lower risk" in a club investing the majority of its capital in the draft, even a supposedly deep draft like this one.

Yes, we have an age profile that slants older but there are so many other factors to take into account. Experience, big game presence, cool heads under pressure. Proven ability and class. High standards and accountabilty. Leadership. Nous. These are things we have in abundance in our older players. And it wins finals.

If we're taking about risk, there is a MUCH greater risk in investing heavily in, say, pick 3 in the draft cough than there is for us in recruiting a two time (and current) AA star with one of the best kicks in the game, with big game experience and a quantifiable track record as a model professional both on and off the field. Or a DFA who kicks plenty of goals in an underwhelming side like St Kilda. That pick 3 guarantees you absolutely nothing. Zero.

And we also know there are different standards at play here. Geelong go for an injury riddled, underperforming 29 year old in Jack Martin as a DFA and we have to listen to the media drool over the decision. But getting a superstar in his prime like Houston, while trading away a future first that we won't use anyway is "going all in" and a "big risk".

Thanks for coming to my Ted Talk and I'll make sure my next post is a bit shorter!

They're all just mug punters.

Don't invest in that successful company that has consistently produced returns. It's safer to put it on Maccas mare. Macca says it's a ripper and you'll be kicking yourself if you miss out.