Traded Collingwood trade F2, F3, F4 to Gold Coast for #22, 46, 58, 79 & F4

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Won’t split it for combo of later picks. If we did that from a points view would mean we need to clear extra spaces on the list to use them.

The whole point of this move is to ensure Daicos points without pushing 2022 1st back. Kreuger and Lipinski trades have to be done with the swaps we have now or with Lynch swap. Once done we will be close to 2400 points left which is what we will need of Daics is bid on at 1. We will keep 22
until the Daics bid is known and trade it then if we still have a points excess.

This has to be our course of action else today’s trade of 2022 2nd makes no sense.
Would be one more list spot for that Richmond trade.
 
Not sure what you are saying, the Pies need to formalise the spots on the list so some currently listed players will go, but the pies have got more than enough points to get Daics, I don't expect Lipinski and Kreuger will cost much and Dibs will be a late pick match that if it comes after Pick 43 won't involve any points - that leaves us

They acquired pick 79 for a reason - still not sure why, my guess is there's some kids late in the draft that they're interested in.

79 is because if you use 6 say 6 picks to match daicos and dib you still have to fill the 4 vacant senior list spots on the night (or elevate 2 rookies and do a 2-2 split) so this giving you picks in the 60s (thats where 79 will end up) to do that.
 

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With their 2nd pick in the 2022 draft …..Collingwood at pick 78 take ….psssttt who’s left and tell Gill to get Dodoro to stop yelling Kepler Bradley
Just like the Terminator, we'll be back
79 is because if you use 6 say 6 picks to match daicos and dib you still have to fill the 4 vacant senior list spots on the night (or elevate 2 rookies and do a 2-2 split) so this giving you picks in the 60s (thats where 79 will end up) to do that.
96 and 114 will do that just as easily!
 
Wow. Basically skipping next years draft entirely for Daicos. Really hope for them he's worth it.
Have a look at WBD this year with Darcy.
You may have missed the hysteria, (oh there wasn’t any 🙄).
 
Smart trade by the Pies and GC.

I was fully on board with North picking Daicos at #1, purely because a deficit next year could potentially benefit us by improving our first rounder.

Now that Collingwood have enough points, there's no reason for us to bid on him 1st, other than to piss of Collingwood, which would be a dumb bridge to burn for no benefit.

Plus GC get to shuffle all of there draft capital into 2022, where they should have cap flexibility and plenty of picks to bundle up into the 1st round.

Another thing to note is De Goey, Maynard and Moore all hitting FA next year. If Collingwood have another bad year, letting 2x of those guys go could net some extra top 5 picks anyway.
 
I think the experts forget the Pies netted 5 top 30 (actually 31) draft picks in 2020. And another at pick 44.
They'll grab Daicos, Lipinski and Kreuger (both young and fill a need), as well as our NGA prospect in Dib who will likely be matched after pick 20.

As of now, we have 2 picks in 2022, one of which is likely to be top 4 or 5. I'm sure we can add another to that, even if it's a 3rd rounder.
 
Have a look at WBD this year with Darcy.
You may have missed the hysteria, (oh there wasn’t any 🙄).

You mean the team that just played off in a GF, took JUH at #1 last year, and getting Darcy inside the Top 5 this year isn't getting as much criticism as a team that finished bottom 4 after trading Treloar & Stephenson out for peanuts last year, and are having to trade out of most of the 2022 draft because they sold their 2021 first rounder last year also for peanuts?

Yeah it's weird why they're not getting as much commentary.
 
owen87 I mean in relation to not having any draft picks.
Wrighty fixed it in a day.
PS: We deserved what we got for the way we handled last year btw

Yes, he fixed it. In the sense that Collingwood has traded out of the 2022 draft to do so. Which is the flow-on effect of the disaster that Ned Guy oversaw.

With a few guys coming in on the cheap like Lipinski and Krueger it might work out OK yet, but Daicos would want to be exceptional.
 
Yes, he fixed it. In the sense that Collingwood has traded out of the 2022 draft to do so. Which is the flow-on effect of the disaster that Ned Guy oversaw.

With a few guys coming in on the cheap like Lipinski and Krueger it might work out OK yet, but Daicos would want to be exceptional.
Traded out of 22 draft?

We have kept our 1st next year and we are a year away from 22 draft.
 

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Yes, he fixed it. In the sense that Collingwood has traded out of the 2022 draft to do so. Which is the flow-on effect of the disaster that Ned Guy oversaw.

With a few guys coming in on the cheap like Lipinski and Krueger it might work out OK yet, but Daicos would want to be exceptional.
What else do you propose they do? Pass on Daicos? It’s either that or trade 2022 picks to pay for him like they have done.
 
What else do you propose they do? Pass on Daicos? It’s either that or trade 2022 picks to pay for him like they have done.

There's nothing they can do after the 2020 period. The poster I was replying to was asking why the Dogs aren't getting criticised. Because they didn't mishandle the 2020 period causing a flow-on effect in 2021 and 2022, and that they just played off in a GF so aren't in the midst of trying to restock their list.
 
There's nothing they can do after the 2020 period. The poster I was replying to was asking why the Dogs aren't getting criticised. Because they didn't mishandle the 2020 period causing a flow-on effect in 2021 and 2022, and that they just played off in a GF so aren't in the midst of trying to restock their list.
No you’re making claims that they don’t have a strong 2022 draft hand 12 months out ignoring the fact they drafted a load of kids last year, get a potential number 1 rated pick this year, have protected their first next year with plenty of opportunity to trade back in next year anyway.
 
Is the rule that each club has to make 3 selections at the national draft?
Three list changes I believe, although they reduced it to two last year
A rookie upgrade counts towards the list changes too
 
No you’re making claims that they don’t have a strong 2022 draft hand 12 months out ignoring the fact they drafted a load of kids last year, get a potential number 1 rated pick this year, have protected their first next year with plenty of opportunity to trade back in next year anyway.

Plus there is next to zero chance we just let a low pick (22) basically get consumed for no reason.

It’s pretty obvious that it will be used for something else.

Personally I think we just simply split this pick across this and next years draft. Or alternatively trade it out during the matching process and back in for a top 30 selection afterwards (with the required 2 seperate clubs)
 

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Traded Collingwood trade F2, F3, F4 to Gold Coast for #22, 46, 58, 79 & F4

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