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I'm not talking about what supporters say....I'm talking about what Dimma saysThatās EXACTLY what Melbourne supporters said about Howe. EXACTLY.![]()
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I'm not talking about what supporters say....I'm talking about what Dimma saysThatās EXACTLY what Melbourne supporters said about Howe. EXACTLY.![]()
Yeah, didnāt he come here because he didnāt like playing in defence at Melbourne and we promised to play him forward?Thatās EXACTLY what Melbourne supporters said about Howe. EXACTLY.![]()
I'd consider him with the view to also have him play mid. Pickett at Melb has made the transition and been dynamic.We don't have much to trade with this year. So we have to very smart.
THE TARGET SHOULD BE LIAM RYAN FROM WEST COAST HE IS GETTABLE MAYBE FUTURE SECOND ROUNDER.
GET HIM PIES.IMAGINE RYAN, HILL, SCHULTZ, ELLIOT MIHOCHEK AND MACSTAY FORWARTD LINE PRETTY DYNAMIC
who's gonna stop that ??????????????
Enough of the list cloggers and NQR players we have enough of them. We have to hope that next year we have a healthy list and have a last crack with this group.
End of 2025 a few will retire and our salary cap opens up. We will not be paying Treloar's salary that ends and a few players will go THEY ARE PLENTY OF FREE AGENTS NEXT NEXT TIME TO SWOOP PIES !
You can say the same for Lippa. Has been quiet for a month, but signed a 3 year deal in march until 2027 so doubt a rival is offering him a 5 year deal to move.
Noble not going anywhere either. Players in the best 23 I very doubt will be on the trade table.
Johnson probably, but don't think there will be mass changes. Richards has interested parties.
The problem with that is that I don't think Lippa or Noble have that much value either - we wouldn't get much of an upgrade of our second rounder.We need to get more aggressive and decisive in our list management. Nobody outside our Best 23 has trade value greater than a 3rd round pick, which are pretty useless to us. Need to trade Noble and/or Lippa to upgrade our 2nd rounder into a 1st rounder.
Their contracts are not a problem - if the coach says āHey Lippa, weāre going in a different direction in 2025 and youāre likely to be mostly playing VFLā then you can be sure that Lippa will become receptive to a trade.
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Our VFL team is pox.
Worst in the comp.
Young players when elevated fail to step up.
Trade currency is weak. Iād imagine 3rd rounders? (Re Ryan, McInness, McCrae). Why toss out cheap, unfulfilled potential? Keep our youth.
We need to totally overhaul our VFL program. Brendan McCarthy, Iām seeing a lot on game days? Isnāt he meant to be a junior coaching guru? Why isnāt he coaching VFL? Josh Fraserneeds to get the flick.PLAYERCARDSTARTJosh Fraser
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Our only players worth anything and not essential to our core are JFN, Lipinski and (maybe) Richards. Theyāll get us 2nd rounders.
Johnson as a swap for Keane? In what universe? Iām looking to dump Johnsonās contract. Iām taking a 4th rounder. Heās tapped out.
Who do we retire? How can we offload them, especially when we donāt have youth that can challenge their spots?
I see our only options being UFAs. Our trading position is poor and we donāt have much to get into the draft.
Jack Lukosious on the outer at the GC.
We should target.
Would be a fantastic addition.
Any mobile height on our forward line would be very welcome.
He can sulk his way down to the pies."Cept unlike Howe, this one gets sooky when he doesn't get to play where and how he wants....he's no Howe replacement.
he would still be under contract on decent coin, imagine if we could do a deal like Geelong did when they took on Bowes contract and also got pick 7
but things dont happen like that for us, we tend to get bent over in trade deals
Especially if weāre looking to move them on. We got bugger all for the contracted Treloar, Stephenson, Phillips, Grundy, Adams, Ginnivanā¦The problem with that is that I don't think Lippa or Noble have that much value either - we wouldn't get much of an upgrade of our second rounder.
That was supposedly part of the sales pitch, but honestly I think heād have come regardless. Playing for the club he grew up fanatical about under a coach he idolised must have been much more appealing than staying at the basket case that Melbourne was at the time.Yeah, didnāt he come here because he didnāt like playing in defence at Melbourne and we promised to play him forward?
And sleeps with light on"Cept unlike Howe, this one gets sooky when he doesn't get to play where and how he wants....he's no Howe replacement.
They have enough money to bring in Rioli or would have of dusty left so implies the cap isnāt good had that they would again offload players for cap room.
So canāt see that happening
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good point
but he has signed until the end of 2026, clearly they think he is not in their best 22 anymore
time to have a word with him
if we could nab him for a 2nd rounder, i would jump at that
im sure the Crows will be right into him
The problem with that is that I don't think Lippa or Noble have that much value either - we wouldn't get much of an upgrade of our second rounder.
This would be Collingwood trolling themselves with such a move.We don't have much to trade with this year. So we have to very smart.
THE TARGET SHOULD BE LIAM RYAN FROM WEST COAST HE IS GETTABLE MAYBE FUTURE SECOND ROUNDER.
GET HIM PIES.IMAGINE RYAN, HILL, SCHULTZ, ELLIOT MIHOCHEK AND MACSTAY FORWARTD LINE PRETTY DYNAMIC
who's gonna stop that ??????????????
Enough of the list cloggers and NQR players we have enough of them. We have to hope that next year we have a healthy list and have a last crack with this group.
End of 2025 a few will retire and our salary cap opens up. We will not be paying Treloar's salary that ends and a few players will go THEY ARE PLENTY OF FREE AGENTS NEXT NEXT TIME TO SWOOP PIES !
Jack Lukosious on the outer at the GC.
We should target.
Would be a fantastic addition.
Any mobile height on our forward line would be very welcome.
i'm starting to think we need to look creatively at the list much like Geel with Stewart, and move established players to positions of need.
To that end I really liked IQ up the ground against the Swans, his speed and power could make him an excellent mid.
Similarly Maynard, but I doubt we move 2 pivotal defensive pegs.
I think Ryan in the VFL is starting to show his potential - is good on both side, can intercept, and has good pace, making him a logical IQ replacement.
McCreery - we need to give him concerted midtime and experience. I don't have concerns about his lack of one touch, because his other attributes more than compensate
Sidey as a tagger was another revelation.
Pendlebury fwd - with his smarts and leadership we could become even more potent in fwd setups and organization,
The way Mitchell swings around his team, is a powerful weapon. Shifting Hardwick foward in the First game almost won them the game. Similarly his use of Day and Weddle.
Positional flexibility ensures we keep the opposition guessing and to that end, we should be at least testing players in new positions over the preseason eg Moore fwd, Brodie back, Reef mid/hb, Eyre fwd/back.
The big difference is Howe had an elite skillset for an intercepting role. Has Lukosius got an elite skillset for any role?Thatās EXACTLY what Melbourne supporters said about Howe. EXACTLY.![]()
Bruz as a midfield bull would be immenseI often disagree with you Spinny but am on board with this thinking. If we lack the picks and tradeable players to significantly upgrade our list then we need to get creative to extract greater performance from within our existing squad. 3 or 4 significant role changes over summer might be the trick.
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