List Mgmt. Collingwood Trade Talk 2015

[Saintly Viewed]

Apologies I couldn't resist, last year's trade period went so crisply for you.

Hi mr Lion

Thats ok, you can do puns if it pleases you.
They are very good.

Im now not worrying about the draft anymore. Its now all about the puns....


As an aside it makes no difference between the first minute or the last minute of a trade.
Round one nobody remembers what time the trades happened. But at least we will always have your puns.... Much thanks on your wonderful work.

Please let me know when matron allows you to pun again

 

[Apex36]

Apologies I couldn't resist, last year's trade period went so crisply for you.

Much better

 

[JollyBallsUp]

"Yeah, like the direction...not sure the direction will get them where they want to go..."
Ladies and gentlemen: Terry Wallace

Flog

 

[danielnajdek]

Bye Nathan Flogman.

 

[Temploar]

Great effort but unfortunately in 2002 and 2003 the Buck stopped with Leigh...

I'm sure you are proud of your Rich history. Three premierships in a row yet you've never been Close to one since. How about you see if the grass is Green(er) on the other side? I'm sure it's pretty Paine(ful) knowing your club was only formed in '96, due to the Lions and the Bears falling off a Rockliff.
Best of luck for 2016, I hope your players McStay and not go West.

 

[swiftdog]

Great effort but unfortunately in 2002 and 2003 the Buck stopped with Leigh...

Wood you please stop Corrieing on like this?

Props for anyone who can fit "Karnezis" into a pun

 

[pablo disco bar]

Is it true talks with gws have broken down??

 

[jjsmitty8]

A rockliff pun, very clever!!

I'm a modern day Shakespeare!

 

[thetruth000001]

Great effort but unfortunately in 2002 and 2003 the Buck stopped with Leigh...

Not bad wounded lion at least our supporters arnt as sensitive as yours, you would be band by now, it's all in good fun appreciate the comedy

 

[danielnajdek]

Is it true talks with gws have broken down??

No. It was fake.

 

[Cousin of Daicos]

Jeremy Howe deal close?

There is speculation coming through that the Pies could be closing in on a deal for Melbourne high-flyer Jeremy Howe.

It could even get done before the Adam Treloar trade.

Stay tuned.
--
The Age

 

[jjsmitty8]

Is it true talks with gws have broken down??

This is what the coach just said on radio..

 

[FireKrakouer]

Great effort but unfortunately in 2002 and 2003 the Buck stopped with Leigh...

I'd be lion if I said I didn't find your posts funny. Seems like someone had too many Jim Beams for lunch though.

 

[JollyBallsUp]

A rockliff pun, very clever!!

You just described the head coach and the captain with one word.

 

[Cousin of Daicos]

Let me try let me try.

I guess you could say we want Aish from Brisbane, like yesterday. HTFU.

 

[wicksy]

Wood you please stop Corrieing on like this?

Props for anyone who can fit "Karnezis" into a pun

Well IF you asked me to help you lift a heavy TV unit into your flat and IF I'd just had a knee reconstruction, I COULD say something like .... "Karnezis sore"......

 

[Wounded Lion]

I'm sure you are proud of your Rich history. Three premierships in a row yet you've never been Close to one since. How about you see if the grass is Green(er) on the other side? I'm sure it's pretty Paine(ful) knowing your club was only formed in '96, due to the Lions and the Bears falling off a Rockliff.
Best of luck for 2016, I hope your players McStay and not go West.

I have no response, simply outstanding!

 

[jhndos]

Here is my latest on what I think will happen. FWIW I actually think Nathan Freeman trade is holding a lot of this up for us.

Paul Seedsman for pick 32

Nathan Freeman for pick 24 (2015)

Adam Treloar for pick 7 (2015 and 2016) which would give Treloar a value of 3288 points making him more than a pick 1. To that end sensible we get their pick 27 back which would effectively value him at pick 2 on the points calculator. I have no doubt if someone had offered GWS pick 2 then they would have jumped at it. Am hoping Finlayson involved but its more hopeful than anything. Hine has had a win if he is.

James Aish will then get traded for picks 24 and 26 which have a total value of 1514 points valuing him at effectively pick 9 which is probably slight overs and hence suspect we may get either their #43 or #57 selection. If we didn't have the #24 from St Kilda then I think we would give them the #27 from GWS instead.

Jeremy Howe will get done in a complicated deal I reckon which effectively will see us part with Kennedy and our pick # 44.

Others

Alan Toovey - to be honest I would let him go and get a pick back for him or trade one of ours up. Surely Marsh, Scharenberg, Williams, Langdon, Ramsay (if fit) need to be given preference. I love the bloke so happy for him to stay but skill level hurts us and not sure he will be in our best 22 for long.

Jarryd Blair - for mine he has to go. When I do my best 22 he ranks about 27-29 and hence if you could get a 3rd rounder for him or use him in a trade i would. Again great club man so if he stays terrific but I dont want to see him in the best 22 at the start of the year.


What does it all mean

Senior List = 34

ND Selections = 6 but more likely I think to take 3

Pre Season Draft = I think they will take 3 in the ND and leave one for the PSD

Rookie List = 3

Rookie Draft Selections = 3

National Draft Selections

# 27 - Clayton Oliver - midfielder

You would hope Rioli gets through but I dont think he will. I would probably take the best player that was there and have an inkling that a guy like Clayton Oliver is there. Ben McKay would be another I would look at. Key forwards taken this late dont really have a great history of being successful but Ben is pretty new and raw so maybe. There are lots of other names around here that I would be ok with including Fiorini, Crocker, Partington, Hardwick, Clarke

# 32 - H.Kerbatieh - small forward

You would hope Rioli gets through but I dont think he will. I think its more likely a Kerbatieh is there and for mine he fills a need on our list. He is a bull and has real speed, agility and aggression. I love his attack on the footy and think he could have a real impact. Beaut kick to.

# 43 or 57 - Sam Skinner - key defender

I would love a pick around here because I think Sam Skinner is going to slide off the back of being injured all year. He was a selection around 20 at the start of the year and I have seen enough to think he would be a terrific player for our back half. Hard and tough and is very athletic when at his best. If it was pick 57 he wouldn't be there so I would then be looking at guys like Nick Coughlan in a similar role or players like Doedee and Perry who I think have huge upside and have wonderful athletic credentials.

Pre Season Draft

If a mature age player

# 7 - Spencer White

An immense talent as a junior and a bit of a bolter come draft day. He came along pretty well with the Saints and had one game that was really good over in Adelaide (think vs Port) where he showed a lot. Been delisted and suspect has a bit to do with work ethic. If club could convince themselves he would learn from that and make best of 2nd chance I would take him. Interestingly would also look at Markworth from St Kilda as another option. In all likelihood Collingwood will probably target some who is uncontracted and young. Wont have a heap of cash but someone around the $250k maybe possible (e.g. Brad McKenzie)

or if a kid

# 7 - Tom Doedee

Another player I really like who hasn't had a lot of exposed form but what he did was terrific. Can do some special things around the HB / Wing sort of area. Lovely size and terrific skills insomuch as accurate but also can punch the footy hard and weight the kids well. He is courageous and will run with the flight when needed and in fact got himself hurt pretty badly at one point so missed a lot of second half. Came back and had some good performances in Falcons finals.

Rookie Draft

# 7 - Callum Moore

Some might think it is odd that he will last this long and he may not but i have a huge draft range on him at the moment simply because I just dont know how clubs will rate his skill level. At times it is really poor and whilst I understand its getting better and an AFL environment I dont think it will see him taken in the first 50 or so (i.e. i think there will only be that number of live picks). Hence I am ranking around 50-60 range post Academy, F/S and rookie upgrade selections. He is super athletic, has terrific speed and a wonderful leap. It is just his kicking. Was close to being taken last year by us and did enough this year to suggest he should be taken.

# 25 - Matthew Perry

Am a huge fan.....but seemingly one of few. Was a terrific player in the Metro trials and then had some good games during the Champs to put his name up. reminds me a lot of Langford. Tall, athletic, composed, has good vision, good ball user and has that cat like movement and agility. Nice height at around 185cm or so. The knock on him is he is light and probably could be more consistent.

# 43 - Sam Menagola

I think he is 23yo now and on record saying he didn't handle his first stint well. Terrific athlete and a great size with good skill. Been sensational at WAFL this year (ave circa 25 touches and a goal plus a game) and polled well in the Sandover. His game in the GF was terrific. Take him in the rookie and give him a year and see how he goes.

Mitch Brown has to be part of our team ?

 

[jackcass]

Apologies I couldn't resist, last year's trade period went so crisply for you.

Appreciate the puns but actually it didn't. Apparently the Bears administration aren't prepared to take their heads out of their own arses long enough to actually talk to anyone.

 

[Temploar]

I have no response, simply outstanding!

Great banter my friend.

 

[JollyBallsUp]

Wood you please stop Corrieing on like this?

Props for anyone who can fit "Karnezis" into a pun

Collingwood is doing everything it can for James Aish but at this stage Karnezis his paine as he still a Brisbane listed player.

 

[Wayne Arnold]

Not sure how we get Aish and keep a second round pick for this year's draft if Freeman is traded to the Saints for a 2016 second rounder.

 

[Roverjg]

Great effort but unfortunately in 2002 and 2003 the Buck stopped with Leigh...

You are right, touche. However, you have been irrelevant since then and the buck again stops with Leigh

 

[PicaBoo]

I'm sure you are proud of your Rich history. Three premierships in a row yet you've never been Close to one since. How about you see if the grass is Green(er) on the other side? I'm sure it's pretty Paine(ful) knowing your club was only formed in '96, due to the Lions and the Bears falling off a Rockliff.
Best of luck for 2016, I hope your players McStay and not go West.

Game.
Set.
Match.

 

[TradeDraft]

This is what the coach just said on radio.. View attachment 185927

What does not far away. Hours or Days?

He did not really gave a Time