Game Day Collingwood v Brisbane, Marvel, 18 August, 7.50pm

[magpies42]

We won last week without 2 of them. We can still win.

Spot on, somebody else will step up…and if they don’t who cares we are basically assured of top 2.

What’s important is that we are fit for finals.

I’m resting everyone that is showing signs of injury, and definitely those like degoey that are carrying something!

Fin Macrae needs to play for Degoey.

 

[Go Pies!!!!!]

I would rather win this week and if we do meet Melbourne in a qualifying final beat them and have them going interstate preliminary final weekend to make the granny

 

[Captivating]

If we win, we can try and help get Melb to 2nd spotm, which would be an advantage if we happen to lose week 1 in finals. I'd rather play a PF final against Melb in Vic that go to Bris.

 

[jmac70]

If we win, we can try and help get Melb to 2nd spotm, which would be an advantage if we happen to lose week 1 in finals. I'd rather play a PF final against Melb in Vic that go to Bris.

Let’s just worry about ourselves.

 

[jmac70]

I would rather win this week and if we do meet Melbourne in a qualifying final beat them and have them going interstate preliminary final weekend to make the granny

I would rather win every game we play for the rest of the year.

 

[unplugged]

Why is anyone worried about Melbourne? We've got a great recent record against them. Not to mention last time we met we played like shit and still almost got over the line!

 

[sideswipe]

Agreed. We’re really struggling in the engine room. But I think Pendles is now past that role and better value setting up play off half-back.

We need some break-away speed and/or tackle-breaking grunt. McCreery? Maynard? Allan? The cupboard is quite bare.

I can’t see us winning this game, especially at Marvel, so would be tempted to take a punt and debut Allan. He might surprise as one of those who looks better at AFL level surrounded by better players, than at VFL level. I don’t see much downside to giving it a go but admit that there’s very little chance of it happening.

I also think Howe needs to play forward to keep Andrews accountable and stop him “doing a Sicily”.

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“Can’t see us winning” - you need to get a hold of yourself. Or back Brisbane at $2.18.


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[TheGreatGrundy]

Might as well rest De Goey and Noble.

You just said elsewhere you want to win every game for the rest of the year. Now you want to rest blokes. You want your cake, and I guess like most sensible people, you want to eat it too. But you're happy to leave out important ingredients. The cake may fail without them.

 

[LuckyLee]

“Can’t see us winning” - you need to get a hold of yourself. Or back Brisbane at $2.18.


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I would never bet against Collingwood. Ever.

But the reality is that if DeGoey is out, we badly lack explosiveness and pace in the middle of the ground. If Noble joins Daicos and DeGoey on the sidelines, then that’s three of our main ball runners out and a big loss of “metres gained”. It probably needs a radical/experimental solution but doubt we’ll be so bold. So yes, I do struggle to see a path to us winning this week. But I’ll be supporting the team on Friday night just as passionately as you and will be delighted to be proven wrong. It wouldn’t be the first time!


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[Vicky Park]

Let’s just worry about ourselves.

Yep, I don’t care who we meet in the finals, if we’re good enough we beat them. Form is everything now.

Except Carlton. While we will beat them, I may not survive the encounter.

 

[sideswipe]

I would never bet against Collingwood. Ever.

But the reality is that if DeGoey is out, we badly lack explosiveness and pace in the middle of the ground. If Noble joins Daicos and DeGoey on the sidelines, then that’s three of our main ball runners out and a big loss of “metres gained”. It probably needs a radical/experimental solution but doubt we’ll be so bold. So yes, I do struggle to see a path to us winning this week. But I’ll be supporting the team on Friday night just as passionately as you and will be delighted to be proven wrong. It wouldn’t be the first time!


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"can't see us winning" is outlandishly pessimistic - especially for the favoured team. Metres gained is mostly a pretty meaningless stat. Murphy got 3 coaches votes last Friday with minus 2 metres

 

[thommo_legend]

Carlton have shown in the past month you can win without key personnel. If JDG and Noble are out it'll give opportunity to someone hungry to get a spot come finals time.

 

[RobJD]

Possible team if De Goey doesn't get up.

Out: Moore, De Goey
In: Sidebottom, Macrae

Howe. Frampton. IQ
Maynard. Murphy. Noble
Sidebottom. Crisp. JDaicos
McCreery. Mihocek. Hill
Elliott. McStay. Ginni
Cameron. Pendles. Mitchell
Lippa. Adams. Markov. WHE
Sub: Macrae Or Reef?

I like the idea of Reef as the JDG replacement - he has similar explosiveness and can play forward - his VFL form last week was very good

 

[Masked Magician]

Jakob Ryan starting the session in black.

Steele in full training.

De Goey doesn’t look to be going 100%.

Bobby Hill also in some doubt to my eye, think it may be an ankle complaint.

Noble fully training and looks fine.

 

[Matt_352]

Don't care if we play Melbourne in QF, I'll back us in. We match up well on them

 

[Cousin of Daicos]

I'd be bringing in Kreuger for Moore, Macrae or Allen for De Goey, Sidebottom to Sub, Ginnivan in and maybe Jakob Ryan for Noble?

 

[LuckyLee]

"can't see us winning" is outlandishly pessimistic - especially for the favoured team. Metres gained is mostly a pretty meaningless stat. Murphy got 3 coaches votes last Friday with minus 2 metres

We’re splitting hairs. You and I both love our team and want them to win. That’s a given. This week, I think it’s less likely that we’ll win than you do. That’s OK. I hope your optimism proves more accurate than my caution. Go Pies!


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[LuckyLee]

Jakob Ryan starting the session in black.

Steele in full training and black.

De Goey doesn’t look to be going 100%.

Bobby Hill also in some doubt to my eye, think it may be an ankle complaint.

Noble fully training and looks fine.

For those of us unfamiliar with Ryan, what type of player is he? What are his best attributes? What’s a like-for-like comparison from elsewhere in the AFL?


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[Masked Magician]

De goey after the warm up is now doing rehab work with Moore

 

[Scritchyscroony]

"can't see us winning" is outlandishly pessimistic - especially for the favoured team. Metres gained is mostly a pretty meaningless stat. Murphy got 3 coaches votes last Friday with minus 2 metres

Meters gained is definitely not a meaningless stat. He's talking about midfielders not key defenders.
Obviously it depends on the role you play in the team but for the likes of Noble, Degoey, Sidebottom, Daicos's; meters gained combined with disposal efficiency is about the best metric of midfielder/flanker impact that there is.

 

[neilk]

Jakob Ryan starting the session in black.

Steele in full training and black.

De Goey doesn’t look to be going 100%.

Bobby Hill also in some doubt to my eye, think it may be an ankle complaint.

Any sign of Noble? Is it likely that Ryan is a replacement for Noble? Excited to see him debut if he gets a run.

 

[neilk]

I'd be bringing in Kreuger for Moore, Macrae or Allen for De Goey, Sidebottom to Sub, Ginnivan in and maybe Jakob Ryan for Noble?

Oh dear, FJ will not be pleased.

 

[sideswipe]

Meters gained is definitely not a meaningless stat. He's talking about midfielders not key defenders.
Obviously it depends on the role you play in the team but for the likes of Noble, Degoey, Sidebottom, Daicos's; meters gained combined with disposal efficiency is about the best metric of midfielder/flanker impact that there is.

Disposal efficiency, yes, MG, notsomuch. Easily skewed.

 

[thommo_legend]

De goey after the warm up is now doing rehab work with Moore

How does Sidebottom look?

 

[Masked Magician]

How does Sidebottom look?

Very sharp! But with the white team.