Game Day Collingwood v Brisbane, Marvel, 18 August, 7.50pm

[ElliottsMaggies]

I just want to win our next 5 matches. If we are going to win the flag, we have to be able to beat everyone, anywhere.

 

[domus]

I just think the ruck hit-outs aren’t that important. I’ve always felt all you really need is one competent big ruckman who has the tank to play at least ~85% TOG and the rest of the hit-outs taken by a relief forward don’t actually matter that much. This is how most teams line-up.

We were winning just fine earlier in the season with Frampton and AJ as our makeshift rucks. Getting our midfield right again is paramount. I don’t think Cameron and McStay will be a huge problem for the time being.

Until you bump into Gawn and he tears Cameron a new one. Gawn dominates like no other ruckman since Naitanui (?) and Cox has actually negated his influence a couple of times because of his extra height.

 

[windchimes]

Until you bump into Gawn and he tears Cameron a new one. Gawn dominates like no other ruckman since Naitanui (?) and Cox has actually negated his influence a couple of times because of his extra height.

Refer to the first sentence of my post.

The onus is then on us to execute our game plan and brand of football as best as possible in the remaining 99% of elements involved in the game of footy and defeat them anyway playing with our own ideal structure forward of the ball.

I personally think we can do that.

 

[stormskye]

Until you bump into Gawn and he tears Cameron a new one. Gawn dominates like no other ruckman since Naitanui (?) and Cox has actually negated his influence a couple of times because of his extra height.

He’s was terrible on the wkend. Coincidentally with the return of Grundy

 

[JuniorB]

They plan to slow the opposition but it doesn't always work. When we cut the Cats up with damaging ball movement like we've done to most teams all year, it's not because Scott is a s**t coach who didn't try to stop us.

Scott is just a s**t bloke.

 

[Timmy from Thomastown]

I just want to win our next 5 matches. If we are going to win the flag, we have to be able to beat everyone, anywhere.

In 1990 we lost two games in a row including a belting from hawthorn. We then belted our opponents in the last 2 games, before the drawn QF and then then A convincing march to the flag with a big win against Eagles in the replay and two humiliations of Essendon. Throughout the finals series we were still experimenting with our best forward line, with Brian Taylor and Ronnie McKeown two players to miss out at the end, not to mention Alan Richardson. We also suffered some late season injuries, most notably Millane. Daicos was massive for us through the final series, kicking 13 goals including two all time classics.

I see lots of similarities…

 

[sr36]

Nope. After 20 minutes it was clear plan A was failing badly. There was no attempt to curtail Sicily's influence and we paid a big price. And I never said Fly was a s**t coach. He is an outstanding coach who had a bad day and made a mistake. It's not a sin to point that out. As I said, my criticism was not in hindsight. I called it before and during the game.

Sicily didn't have a massive intercept game; it was standard for him. Where he killed us was they went backwards and sideways to him and then his kicking sliced through us.

Two main options to counter it

1. Your one - take one out of the zone and tag Sicily. Downside is making it easier for the other players to slice through the zone. Not very sustainable as what about teams who have two blokes who can dissect our zone with excellent kicking.

2. Tighten up your zoning by covering off blokes who enter your area. A better option if you can do it.

I'm assuming the plan was to cover off his outlets, but the players didn't do it well enough.

Personally, I think our zoning had been weak for a few weeks and we needed Sicily's day out to tighten up. So the coaching error wasn't game day. It wasn't correcting the flagging zone earlier. Looked great against the Cats - first time for a while a team hasn't been able to pick their way through us.

 

[RobJD]

Scott is just a s**t bloke.

Agree, by my reckoning, Scott gave Cameron 5 Coaches Votes for last Friday night and gave 1 to Jaics, says it all

 

[jmac70]

Might as well rest De Goey and Noble.

 

[Matt_352]

Might as well rest De Goey and Noble.

If anyone is not 100% right to play then they shouldn't be playing

 

[ElliottsMaggies]

In 1990 we lost two games in a row including a belting from hawthorn. We then belted our opponents in the last 2 games, before the drawn QF and then then A convincing march to the flag with a big win against Eagles in the replay and two humiliations of Essendon. Throughout the finals series we were still experimenting with our best forward line, with Brian Taylor and Ronnie McKeown two players to miss out at the end, not to mention Alan Richardson. We also suffered some late series injuries, most notably Millane. Daicos was massive for us through the final series, kicking 13 goals including two all time classics.

I see lots of similarities…

I remember 1990 very clearly.

Best year of my life.

 

[MagpieJoel]

Lost the last 5 vs BrisVegas

Time to change that.

 

[Kes1984]

Agreed. The no more injuries is more important to me right now. We’ve made finals.

Marvel is a wrecking ball in some occasions compared to other grounds.

Lions will come hard at us given this is their chance to secure a home final, which is hugely important.

A good way to get injured is playing preservation footy against a team that’s bringing their intensity.

For that reason I hope we play to win and with equal intensity.

 

[Kes1984]

Exactly!

In terms of controlling the potential outcomes, it makes most sense to lose this week, even though I hate the idea.


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Losing to Brisbane twice in a year, then possibly meeting them in a grand final would give me 2011 V Geelong PTSD

 

[doofdoof]

Really want to beat the Bears. Would love to inflict the loss of Gabba finals upon them.

 

[60 Yards Out]

Agree, by my reckoning, Scott gave Cameron 5 Coaches Votes for last Friday night and gave 1 to Jaics, says it all

Been covered elsewhere, but I just have to say it. How any coach could put four other performances from that game ahead of Josh’s baffles me. Odd, strange and suggestive.

 

[Jafo]

Losing to Brisbane twice in a year, then possibly meeting them in a grand final would give me 2011 V Geelong PTSD

I see your 2011 PSTD and raise you 2002/2003 PSTD which quadruples your 2011 for me

 

[Kes1984]

I see your 2011 PSTD and raise you 2002/2003 PSTD which quadruples your 2011 for me

Oh I have that too!!

 

[VinnieB]

I’m assuming Frampton on Daniher.
Could Krueger play on Hipwood? He is athletic enough to match him.

 

[TradeDraft]

Do you have a bad feeling about this game? That's the question I'd be asking.

Have a Feeling both teams are Equally Matched

 

[domus]

I’m assuming Frampton on Daniher.
Could Krueger play on Hipwood? He is athletic enough to match him.

I've often thought he should be trialed down back and just have a job of stopping his opponent from marking the pill. He is athletic enough.

 

[Dead Eye Didak]

Might as well rest De Goey and Noble.

DeGoey won't play Friday, but Sidebottom will return

 

[TradeDraft]

Really looking forward to hearing Luke Hodge’s unbiased commentary on the Tv for this game.

Glad I be at the Game

 

[Pies_10]

All 3 star players out wow hahaha
Of course it happens now to us

 

[Doc1763]

All 3 star players out wow hahaha
Of course it happens now to us

is De Goey confirmed out?