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Gumble Frankieton said:
I guess we’ve all heard a few stories along the lines of: ‘officer, someone stole my dope plants’ so maybe it’s time someone complained to the ACCC. Doesn’t a product have to be ‘fit for purpose’ under Australian consumer laws? 😬
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Round here its more "Officer stole my dope plants."
 
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Caracas said:
That was always Snake’s strong suit. If only he could have contented himself with sticking to that instead of taking a spear gun to the culture wars.


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I’d be hard pressed to find anyone who was as fiercely loyal to the playing group as Snake is.
The off field stuff and cultural items are a miss but his level of decency evolved around the game and the 22 on the field representing the club.
 

Stand and deliver: AFL warns no faking or milking stand rule​


Michael Gleeson


Umpires have been reminded to call play on if players fake to try to milk a 50-metre penalty from the stand rule as Carlton’s Sam Docherty successfully did in the blockbuster at the MCG on Sunday.

The AFL dislikes players trying to game the system and draw free kicks or 50-metre penalties and considers feinting to play on and draw the hefty penalty is similar to the player who dives in a marking contest or drops at the knees or lifts an arm up like Jack Ginnivan and Joel Selwood to draw a head high free kick.

[PLAYERCARD]Sam Docherty[/PLAYERCARD] drew a 50m penalty when he stepped across to fake a handball.

Sam Docherty drew a 50m penalty when he stepped across to fake a handball.Credit:AFL Photos/Getty Images

A 50-metre penalty in the Collingwood-Carlton game against Jordan De Goey for moving off the mark when told to stand was considered an error by the umpire as Docherty had stepped off his line to fake a handball and the umpire should have immediately called play on.

The AFL believes the umpire missed the play on and so while De Goey moved from the mark before play on was called and technically this is a correctly applied decision, the play on was missed in the first instance.

The AFL has previously warned players that umpires are encouraged that even making to handball is sufficient for play on to be called by the umpire even without the player stepping off the line.

The decision in the Carlton-Collingwood game illustrated a point the umpires have been pushing with clubs since early last year when Cale Hooker drew a free kick on the stand rule against Brisbane’s Zac Bailey that led to a goal.

In the spotlight: Jack Ginnivan earned a high-contact free kick from this [PLAYERCARD]Jaidyn Stephenson[/PLAYERCARD] tackle.

In the spotlight: Jack Ginnivan earned a high-contact free kick from this Jaidyn Stephenson tackle.Credit:Getty Images


After that goal the AFL contacted clubs and warned them that trying to draw a player on the mark into moving and milking a 50-metre penalty would only lead to play on being called. They have occasionally got in touch with clubs in-season warning about players they are aware of trying to milk 50s.

AFL umpires boss Dan Richardson would not be drawn on specific cases like the De Goey incident or other contentious decisions in the Carlton-Collingwood blockbuster but said the AFL has long been concerned about players trying to milk frees and con umpires whether it was with the stand rule or drawing head high tackles.

“Players are aware that the stand rule has been in for two years now and how it operates. Players on the mark understand that once stand is called they cannot move until play on is called and the player with the ball understands that if they step off their line at all play is likely to be called,” Richardson said.


“We want play on to be called first on those occasions (when a player fakes to handball or play on to draw a 50).

“There’s an umpire responsibility to apply the rules and a player responsibility not to fake and milk an advantage. Like with other rules adjustments we have made (the head high tackle crack down or the Ginnivan rule this year). Umpiring is hard enough without players attempting to get an advantage by faking to exploit the rules,” Richardson said.

The AFL has not sent a memo to clubs this week reminding them of the situation believing it was unnecessary as clubs and players knew the rule.

There were a range of other contentious free kicks in the game including blocks in marking contests that led to a goals or meant shots at goal were denied. There were also dropping the ball free kicks unpaid that would have led to goals.

Both teams earned goals or were denied goals from free kicks or unpaid free kicks. These issues arise every week.


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AFL Finals 2022: AFL warns no faking or milking the stand rule

Umpires have been reminded to call play on if players fake to try to milk a 50-metre penalty from the stand rule following one example in round 23.
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The Docherty-De Goey example was raised by the AFL as an issue of their concern at players seeking to milk an advantage.
 

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No he's an obsequious little sniveller.

He plays the pseudo intellectual card but in reality he's nothing but a campaigner.
 
I’ve said it before re: whateley is tgat a lot of what he says is relatively low quality, low insight, pretty skewed all dressed up as impactful.

Actually asses what he says, the inconsistencies case to case and vested interests.

It’s that I hate. I have a real problem with his sermonising and faux statesman like presentation whilst delivering nothing. He is of no greater quality than most of the media he just has a better vocabulary.

What I hate with the media in footy is they have what I consider one of the best jobs ever and they waste the opportunity with poor research, regurgitation of agreed talking points. If I had the opportunity and skills I’d be watching every game, looking for in depth meaty analysis/stories and putting in an effort to actually provide insight not available to the lay person.

No it’s all reworked hot takes, presenting cliches as fact. With a bit of personal alliance thrown in. It sucks
 
Le Grille said:
I’ve said it before re: whateley is tgat a lot of what he says is relatively low quality, low insight, pretty skewed all dressed up as impactful.

Actually asses what he says, the inconsistencies case to case and vested interests.

It’s that I hate. I have a real problem with his sermonising and faux statesman like presentation whilst delivering nothing. He is of no greater quality than most of the media he just has a better vocabulary.

What I hate with the media in footy is they have what I consider one of the best jobs ever and they waste the opportunity with poor research, regurgitation of agreed talking points. If I had the opportunity and skills I’d be watching every game, looking for in depth meaty analysis/stories and putting in an effort to actually provide insight not available to the lay person.

No it’s all reworked hot takes, presenting cliches as fact. With a bit of personal alliance thrown in. It sucks
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Imagine getting paid 6-7 figures to talk about Footy (Something everyone would love to do) and being a hack lol.
 
Val Keating said:
Australia has the worst Charlie by far. And cop this, the most expensive.
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I'm a noob when it comes to this, but the stuff that I did with a friend of mine several years ago had her and I going off at a New Order show.
Once did speed with a mate before attending a corporate box at the G. Was chatting up two girls at 100 miles per hour. Fun times!!
 
Val Keating said:
Australia has the worst Charlie by far. And cop this, the most expensive.
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Everyone’s taking keta because Atleast they know what they’re getting.
Coke has been shit for a while, at least last 8 plus years and it’s about time it went the same way pills did and started getting tested. Least for harm minimization purposes.
 

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Passmore said:
I’d only recommend the yearly chats with Kingy. They’ve had Rick on as well once or twice which is good, but it’s negated by the rest of the crew.

Dean Vasic’s pod is good at times. Depends who’s on.

I’m only really interested when there’s insights on that escape me. Rick gives you that. The rest is just rambling sadly.
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+1 for Hashtag Kangaroos podcast.
 
Passmore said:
Can I no longer take “North need speed” at face value?
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I was gonna reply with something funny, then remembered Gary Speed, then stopped thinking :)
North need speed is certainly nothing to sniff at :-D
 
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