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Rod Stroker said:
We're just not very relevant at the moment. Even with 5 first round draft picks.

Of more significance though is:
second most disliked team: *
everyone's least favourite second team: *

Translation; eject them from the comp because they won't be missed
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All jurno's picked us in bottom 4, highlighted bit one jurno's most anticipated moment

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Kanga Glory said:
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I do find the promise of Wardlaw kind of hard to fathom.

Commentators bang on about how Daicos is the greatest current player in the AFL.

In Sheezel we have a player whose debut season exceeded Daicos’.

And now there is an expectation that Wardlaw will be an even better player?

Yikes.

Like I said, hard to fathom.
 
 
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On that basis, Geelong and Richmond would seem to be in a bit of strife list profile wise. Cats have been uncanny avoiding the cliff for so long but the cracks are showing. And the tiges going so hard for Taranto & Hopper when they were already declining is going to bite.
 
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Games worth of experience are a really stupid way of evaluating list changes imo. 120 of those games we lost are Kayne Turner. Let me ask you this, would Kayne Turner be worth as much to us next year as Will Phillips, Harry Sheezel, George Wardlaw, Eddie Ford and Paul Curtis combined? I don't personally think he would, but maybe others will disagree.

I think the main thing this drastic dropoff shows is that we held on to certain players for longer than we should have, which was necessitated by the dogshit awful player development of the Scott era leaving a massive hole in the 26-30 demographic on the list.
 
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Liam Boy said:
Games worth of experience are a really stupid way of evaluating list changes imo. 120 of those games we lost are Kayne Turner. Let me ask you this, would Kayne Turner be worth as much to us next year as Will Phillips, Harry Sheezel, George Wardlaw, Eddie Ford and Paul Curtis combined? I don't personally think he would, but maybe others will disagree.
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Without meaning it ironically, to some extent- yes. The effect on the team of having experienced players is extremely important.

I would only argue Wardlaw and Sheezel as having the on-field maturity off the bat to counter Kayne's experience.
 
King Corey said:
Without meaning it ironically, to some extent- yes. The effect on the team of having experienced players is extremely important.

I would only argue Wardlaw and Sheezel as having the on-field maturity off the bat to counter Kayne's experience.
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But surely that experience needs to be coupled with some on-field assets beyond experience for it to be of any value to the team?

Otherwise, why not just make them development coaches?
 

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RobZombie said:
On that basis, Geelong and Richmond would seem to be in a bit of strife list profile wise. Cats have been uncanny avoiding the cliff for so long but the cracks are showing. And the tiges going so hard for Taranto & Hopper when they were already declining is going to bite.
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This! Some of these journalists and their predictions are quite "interesting", to say the least, Robinson, Cavanagh and Mckirdy all have bulldogs in the 8, Sam Landsberger, Ed Bourke and Josh Barnes have the cats making the 8 and the most surprising bit was Ed Bourke also having the dockers making the 8! While I've said that the comp is getting very even, it beggars belief that Geelong will make the 8, if history has taught us anything its that you can't go on forever and at some stage when the end comes, the fall can be quite rapid.

The bulldogs have so many tall young players, genuinely they take time, their midfield has come right back to the pack since Josh Dunkley left and last year while not playing bad, players like Treloar, always injured, the bont, great player who seems to have to carry this team now, Smith while still young has only shown flashes here and there and goes missing a lot, Macrae is a warhorse but last year he didn't have the same effect as of a couple of years ago and approaching 30, he's not getting any younger.

Liberatore another warhorse is 31 going on 32 and another that has got a battering over the last 3 years, they did bring in Harmes from Melbourne and if he stays on the park it will help a little bit, their only shining lights in the midfield are draft boys Sanders{going to be very good} and Freijah{potential untapped} who will get games next year.

As for Richmond the tigers had a dream 6 years in which they won 3 premierships and quite possibly should have won 4, they picked up Taranto and Hopper as RobZombie said, to try for one more bite of the cherry but it backfired and with their saviour rushing out of football only to appear at Gold Coast, their dynasty has well and truly finished. They as a premiership contender look forlorn.

The dockers, well somethings not right at that club, so many players leaving, some players getting lowballed with contracts and after last years effort they look more like a bottom 6 team than finals but with some of their talent they will win games I'm just not so sure it will be enough for the 8. When you've got Brayshaw, Serong, Jackson, Darcy{always injured}, Chapman, Young Amiss, Erasmus and Johnson you shouldn't be playing as bad as what they have done, even though their still only young.
 
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George is paying 5 bux on sportsbet behind Reid at 2.75.... Colby 3rd favourite at 8.0. Interesting that Duursma is 15.0 While Brayden George a year in the system and another medium forward is 81.0!
 
Makeshift Park said:
But surely that experience needs to be coupled with some on-field assets beyond experience for it to be of any value to the team?

Otherwise, why not just make them development coaches?
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Team first mindset, courageous to a fault. I think Kayne had some leadership assets to offer.
 
King Corey said:
Team first mindset, courageous to a fault. I think Kayne had some leadership assets to offer.
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Its things like knowing when to kill a contest instead of trying to win it and risking losing it. When dangerous moments arise. Its not all about the skill level - we all regret he didn't have more of that but he had great game sense. Will be a big asset to Balwyn
 
I could see the Cats having one last hurrah. Their "core four" was top 8 level last season in the Fox Footy Review and their age and games experience I think gives them a chance to be a finals team bu the cliff is definitely coming for them. You'd have to think WCE/North/Hawks/Freo are bottom four based on age and games experience. Bit surprised Freo are that young and inexperienced.
 
Makeshift Park said:
I do find the promise of Wardlaw kind of hard to fathom.

Commentators bang on about how Daicos is the greatest current player in the AFL.

In Sheezel we have a player whose debut season exceeded Daicos’.

And now there is an expectation that Wardlaw will be an even better player?

Yikes.

Like I said, hard to fathom.
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if he can stay on the track the sky is the limit,
 
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