Opinion Commentary & Media VII

[Cartzter]

Without saying I agree or disagree, it's a big call. The findings against Cable are disgusting. But judging the Hall of Fame for non-football acts is a can of worms. They'd be a lot of old-timers who'd be a bit nervous about their place. How do you judge Cable's crimes against Ablett's negligence in the death of a young woman? Is it a bit off that they should be compared?

And if being a s**t-bloke is a mark against you, then being a positive force in the community should therefore count for you. How Wayne Schwass isn't in the Hall of Fame yet is mystifying.

Can someone with knowledge explain the following to me, especially the last line....

"Barry Cable is no longer a legend in the eyes of Western Australia, with the disgraced footballer stripped of a host of honours after a judge found the former star sexually abused a Perth girl while at the height of his playing career.....

Cable, who repeatedly attempted to have the court case proceedings permanently thrown out and did not attend the trial, has denied the abuse.

He has not been charged with any criminal offences."

 

[SpiderBurton22]

Can someone with knowledge explain the following to me, especially the last line....

"Barry Cable is no longer a legend in the eyes of Western Australia, with the disgraced footballer stripped of a host of honours after a judge found the former star sexually abused a Perth girl while at the height of his playing career.....

Cable, who repeatedly attempted to have the court case proceedings permanently thrown out and did not attend the trial, has denied the abuse.

He has not been charged with any criminal offences."

The trial was a civil trial where the burdon of proof is lower than a criminal trial.

 

[gokangas]

The trial was a civil trial where the burdon of proof is lower than a criminal trial.

Thats an interesting fact. I don't think there have ever been any criminal charges. (Not standing up for Cable in any way). Just curious as to the legal status.

 

[SpiderBurton22]

Thats an interesting fact. I don't think there have ever been any criminal charges. (Not standing up for Cable in any way). Just curious as to the legal status.

IIRC, back in the day there were rumours of some connection/friendship between Cable and a top cop which may have had a bearing on criminal charges.

 

[gokangas]

IIRC, back in the day there were rumours of some connection/friendship between Cable and a top cop which may have had a bearing on criminal charges.

OK - don't remember that but in that era friends were very handy.

 

[big_e]

IIRC, back in the day there were rumours of some connection/friendship between Cable and a top cop which may have had a bearing on criminal charges.

Correct. It was discussed at the WA Police Royal Commission.

 

[nelroo]

I don’t understand why the lawyer for the women is getting his pants in a knot about North not yet responding to the case. I’m sure they will respond with a statement.

As an ex employer what do they want ? Want us to erase his name from all our records?

They are revolting crimes if true. I’m just not sure why our club is coping it in the neck ..

 

[desie]

Thanks for the advice Nick, I just told my kids about the time I won two grand on a multi, they were pretty impressed.

 

[Lomas]

So no Casino sponsorship?

 

[Kimbo]

So no Casino sponsorship?

I found the suggestion we were open to it, along with Essendon I think, weird, to say the least.

 

[RHLK]

Barry Cable is a football legend. His detestable actions off-field can't change that.

Chucked out of the Halls of Fame, his legend epaulettes torn off ....will he be stripped of his Sandover medals, too? His premierships with Perth?

Will North have to give back the 75 & 77 cups? Should I stop barracking for North 'cause my Perth hero Cabes led me to Arden Street? Confusing!

 

[krakouers]

IIRC, back in the day there were rumours of some connection/friendship between Cable and a top cop which may have had a bearing on criminal charges.

TBF though, that was the case with pretty much every top level footballer

 

[koshari]

Barry Cable is a football legend. His detestable actions off-field can't change that.

Chucked out of the Halls of Fame, his legend epaulettes torn off ....will he be stripped of his Sandover medals, too? His premierships with Perth?

Will North have to give back the 75 & 77 cups? Should I stop barracking for North 'cause my Perth hero Cabes led me to Arden Street? Confusing!

Yes, yo need to follow geelong now with a role model like GA,

 

[Lomas]

Barry Cable is a football legend. His detestable actions off-field can't change that.

Chucked out of the Halls of Fame, his legend epaulettes torn off ....will he be stripped of his Sandover medals, too? His premierships with Perth?

Will North have to give back the 75 & 77 cups? Should I stop barracking for North 'cause my Perth hero Cabes led me to Arden Street? Confusing!

TBF, I reckon you are big enough to separate the issues and realise it isn't about you.

 

[marklovesbeer]

TBF, I reckon you are big enough to separate the issues and realise it isn't about you.

Exactly.
Grow up.
Not everything in life is black & white.

 

[Woolly Mammoth]

Barry Cable is a football legend. His detestable actions off-field can't change that.

Chucked out of the Halls of Fame, his legend epaulettes torn off ....will he be stripped of his Sandover medals, too? His premierships with Perth?

Will North have to give back the 75 & 77 cups? Should I stop barracking for North 'cause my Perth hero Cabes led me to Arden Street? Confusing!

With Carey, Shannon Grant, Jim Krakouer and to a lesser extent Arch, Dench and whoever was involved in foodvan-gate (stories vary) you'd think we'd be used to this, but this really is a bad as it gets. Obviously we should revert to standard procedure- endure some bizarre and horrendous off field occurrence that no other supporter base has had to confront and keep moving forward in spite of yet another bullet hole . I've never been so grateful that Cable is underrated by most non W.A football fans, not massively thought of as a North man compared to his W.A career, and didn't coach us to a flag.

 

[Hearts to hearts]

Barry Cable is a football legend. His detestable actions off-field can't change that.

Chucked out of the Halls of Fame, his legend epaulettes torn off ....will he be stripped of his Sandover medals, too? His premierships with Perth?

Will North have to give back the 75 & 77 cups? Should I stop barracking for North 'cause my Perth hero Cabes led me to Arden Street? Confusing!

It’s not very confusing. There are things he achieved in football as an individual and as a member of teams that are historical facts and can’t be undone or forgotten. Now there are also things he did that have been found in a court to be historical facts, that also can’t be undone or forgotten. Given the entire history, do institutions now choose to keep his name in those additional elevated honour rolls that have always had a character element alongside the footballing criteria? Or does he retain only the awards and honours that he earned through his footballing ability alone (which was - historical fact again - sublime)?

 

[LB2Snake]

He’s been that was since 2008.

Nah he was really almost post mild stroke vibes. I know he babbles on, but I like his passion for the game, this was like he was struggling to form words. Was a bit hard to watch.

 

[koshari]

Nah he was really almost post mild stroke vibes. I know he babbles on, but I like his passion for the game, this was like he was struggling to form words. Was a bit hard to watch.

i agree that he is far worse than his ramblings in the past.

 

[giantroo]

 

[Roscoe]

This was 40 years ago, it could have been any other team he coached or played for. The current club is not responsible in any way for the findings in a civil case against Cable.

 

[krakouers]

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“He described his penis as his ‘totem pole’”

well, like any man, you may have a pet name for it…. But oh dear Mr Cable

 

[krakouers]

This was 40 years ago, it could have been any other team he coached or played for. The current club is not responsible in any way for the findings in a civil case against Cable.

Legal action against the current club is a stretch, a statement which I’m certain will come (given we have two very powerful, capable and empathetic executives at our club) is important
The lawyer for them is doing what any lawyer in their position would be looking for, the ability to increase the case

 

[Hojuman]

Jeez, it's difficult to comprehend to Cable situation. For us oldies he was a champion player & rover and to watch any highlights from the glorious '70's will always feature his brilliance. Went close to jagging us a flag as coach in 1983 as well.

But without doubt it seems he had a dark and evil side. Undoubtedly our other champion players and aged club stalwarts would be disgusted. Think Greig, Shimmelbusch, Blight, Kekovich, Wade, Davis, Briedis, Burns, Henshaw who played alongside him or were coached by him.

I'm sure the club is looking at a statement esp.with Sonja & Jen in charge. Think it's a tad unfair as this occurred over 40 years ago and most people at the club now might have never met him, or if they have just over a quick conversation at a crowded function.

I'm sure a few of us have come across these types of people. We know how their other side is well hidden as they ingratiate themselves into peoples lives as coaches, teachers, priests ☹ They are sneaky bastard's to put it colloquially.

His life, family & legacy destroyed and be hard to ever show his face in public again.

 

[gokangas]

Jeez, it's difficult to comprehend to Cable situation. For us oldies he was a champion player & rover and to watch any highlights from the glorious '70's will always feature his brilliance. Went close to jagging us a flag as coach in 1983 as well.

But without doubt it seems he had a dark and evil side. Undoubtedly our other champion players and aged club stalwarts would be disgusted. Think Greig, Shimmelbusch, Kekovich, Wade, Davis, Briedis, Burns, Henshaw who played alongside him or were coached by him.

I'm sure the club is looking at a statement esp.with Sonja & Jen in charge. Think it's a tad unfair as this occurred over 40 years ago and most people at the club now might have never met him, or if they have just over a quick conversation at a crowded function.

I'm sure a few of us have come across these types of people. We know how their other side is well hidden as they ingratiate themselves into peoples lives as coaches, teachers, priests ☹ They are sneaky bastard's to put it colloquially.

His life, family & legacy destroyed be hard to ever show his face in public again.

Still the best all-round footballer I have ever seen. The man was football genius. Like you said Hoj - just so hard to fathom this dark side of my idol. He can rot in hell. I am still a little confused about why there hasn't been criminal charges and what is the status of the civil action in comparison. For example, he is being described in all the worst ways for his evil but he has never been convicted. Does the civil findings hold the same weight as a criminal conviction?