List Mgmt. Contracts/Trade/Draft Thread - 2025 Edition

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Players out of Contract (16) - 2025

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• Tim Kelly (26/7/94) - Signed a 6 year contract (2020-25) in October 2019
• Dom Sheed (10/4/95) - Signed a 4 year extension (2022-25) in April 2021*
• Oscar Allen (19/3/99) - Signed a 3 year extension (2023-25) on an existing contract due to expire 2022 in May 2021
• Campbell Chesser (27/4/03) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) on an existing contract due to expire 2023 in May 2022
• Tom Cole (28/5/97) - Signed a 3 year extension (2023-25) in May 2022
• Rhett Bazzo (17/10/03) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) on an existing contract due to expire 2023 in September 2022
• Jayden Hunt (3/4/95) - Signed a 3 year contract (2023-25) in October 2022
• Callum Jamieson (31/7/00) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) in March 2023
• Jeremy McGovern (15/4/92) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) in August 2023
• Jamie Cripps (23/4/92) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) in August 2023
• Jack Petruccelle (12/4/99) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) in August 2023
• (R) Jack Hutchinson (10/11/01) - Automatic 18 month contract (2024-25) when drafted in May 2024
• (R) Tyrell Dewar (27/3/04) - Signed a 1 year extension (2025) in June 2024
• (R) Loch Rawlinson (1/6/05) - Signed a 1 year extension (2025) in September 2024
• (R-B) Coen Livingstone (25/5/05) - Signed a 1 year extension (2025) in September 2024
• (R-B) Malakai Champion (17/5/06) - Automatic 1 year contract (2025) when added as a Cat B Rookie in November 2024

 

[Coasters7]

CH7 reporting we’ve offered Allen a 3 year contract

If true, it’s no wonder his manager has pushed the story into the media

You’d think he’d be chasing at least 5 coming into his FA contract year. And he’ll be offered longer from rival clubs

Also leads you to believe there’s something significant in the injury issues. 5 years would be the absolute minimum for someone of his quality in his age bracket, so someone knows something no one else does.

 

[Carbine Chaos]

Thats a pretty crap offer if true, 3 years?
Id feel pretty disrespected if I was Allen seeing that come through, unless its on MEGA money to make up for it.

He's had one stand out year in his career thus far and there are injury concerns.

3 seems fair to me.

 

[PremiershipNo4]

Nothing wrong with offering a 3 year contract, with long term injury concerns and struggles to stay on the park.
It’s good business.

 

[Bleedblueandgold]

He's a captain, and has missed a lot of footy, so I agree 3 years is fine.

 

[random260]

Oscar Allen helping us net

Warner, Fred and Curtin would be mouth watering.

Warner for Oscar Allen
Fred for Brisbane compo
Curtin (Hawks pick)

 

[Keys]

Oscar Allen netting us

Warner, Fred and Curtin would be mouth watering.

He gets us one of those. Not all three

 

[stallon]

Assuming Allen goes, ideal situation is we can use one of our 1st rounders this year + our f1 for Warner, then keep our other 2 first rounders for potentially Fred and Curtin.
What else does a list really need that we wouldnt have?(aside from a better ruckman)

 

[Bacchus]

CH7 reporting we’ve offered Allen a 3 year contract

If true, it’s no wonder his manager has pushed the story into the media

You’d think he’d be chasing at least 5 coming into his FA contract year. And he’ll be offered longer from rival clubs

Three years would be an insult.

Club is swinging from one end of the pendulum in offering overly generous contracts to the other in being ridiculously mean.

Didn’t Waterman get 5 or 6 years off the back of one good season, and they offered Yeo three years who is over thirty and very injury riddled. I’d be p***ed if I was Allen.

One of the top handful of kpf’s coming into his prime. Injuries are his problem.

If he’s only being offered three he’s being pushed out.

 

[Carbine Chaos]

Three years would be an insult.

Club is swinging from one end of the pendulum in offering overly generous contracts to the other in being ridiculously mean.

Didn’t Waterman get 5 or 6 years off the back of one good season, and they offered Yeo three years who is over thirty and very injury riddled. I’d be p***ed if I was Allen.

One of the top handful of kpf’s coming into his prime. Injuries are his problem.

I don't think 3 years is stingy at all, nor an insult given his injury problems.

I just think the crazy contracts like Hayden Young and Buddy's from a few years back has altered the perception of contract lengths.

If Allen really wants a longer contract, come out, play every game and kick 30 pre-bye.

The captain, like everyone else, should be earning big contracts.

 

[Bacchus]

I don't think 3 years is stingy at all, nor an insult given his injury problems.

I just think the crazy contracts like Hayden Young and Buddy's from a few years back has altered the perception of contract lengths.

If Allen really wants a longer contract, come out, play every game and kick 30 pre-bye.

The captain, like everyone else, should be earning big contracts.

How does three years for Allen (probably in the top three talents on the list) compare with the contracts for Waterman, Yeo and Baker. I would say mean.

I know he has basically missed two of the last three years through injury which has been disappointing but offering him three years is pushing him out the door. Max King who is also often injured got a ten year contract from St Kilda.

 

[Carbine Chaos]

How does three years for Allen (probably in the top three talents on the list) compare with the contracts for Waterman, Yeo and Baker. I would say mean.

I know he has basically missed two of the last three years through injury which has been disappointing but offering him three years is pushing him out the door. Max King who is also often injured got a ten year contract from St Kilda.

I guess generally speaking I'm a pretty conservative person re: contracts. It's probably an unnecessary perspective given contracts seemingly mean less and less in pro sport these days.

I don't see the value in comparing his contract with, say, King's. Let's not base our list management decisions on what St Kilda do.

 

[stallon]

I don't think 3 years is stingy at all, nor an insult given his injury problems.

I just think the crazy contracts like Hayden Young and Buddy's from a few years back has altered the perception of contract lengths.

If Allen really wants a longer contract, come out, play every game and kick 30 pre-bye.

The captain, like everyone else, should be earning big contracts.

If he wants a longer contract all he has to do is accept Brisbane or some other clubs offer.

 

[stallon]

I guess generally speaking I'm a pretty conservative person re: contracts. It's probably an unnecessary perspective given contracts seemingly mean less and less in pro sport these days.

I don't see the value in comparing his contract with, say, King's. Let's not base our list management decisions on what St Kilda do.

Reality is 5+ years is the market rate for a guy like Allen. People can go on about his injury risk and whatever else but thats the going rate, especially when hes a FA.
If we want to keep good players then we have to give them some security.

This next contract is meant to be Allens big one, lesser players get 1mil+ for 5-6-7 years.

No reason we couldnt give him a contract based on games played like Waterman has performance triggers.

 

[Elite Pete]

What happens with Allen really isnt up to us, as long as we offer him a fair contract. Its just unfortunate its worked out that way with the picks imo.
If Brisbane want to pay huge overs to lure Allen then thats on them, I dont think we should be matching in this case.

If Allen wants to leave there isnt much we can do about it.
Wouldnt want Starcevich if we lose Allen to FA, as itd dilute any compo, and Warner is more than likely coming to WA anyway. We can offer a far more attractive salary than the dockers can.

Of course it’s up to Oscar.

You’d think they would’ve had a fair idea if they thought he was signing or not.

Some of the reporting has been only a mid term contract offered.

Like I said we can’t lose really in isolation on the Oscar situation but after paying a high price for ‘Leadership and that age bracket’ last year. It would feel like we have half baker the list build. Who knows, they might have other plans and Chad might still be keen. I just don’t see that happening though

 

[Elite Pete]

CH7 reporting we’ve offered Allen a 3 year contract

If true, it’s no wonder his manager has pushed the story into the media

You’d think he’d be chasing at least 5 coming into his FA contract year. And he’ll be offered longer from rival clubs

The Western Australian saying a 6 year deal was offered in October by the Eagles and not much progress since.

They also say in 2023 he was offered the Captaincy from another club as part of a lure to get him to leave.

 

[Cuzz09]

Would suck if Oscar left but it's the way it is now.

If someone offered me double/triple the money for the same job you'd have to be VERY tempted

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[bzparkes]

Would suck if Oscar left but it's the way it is now.

If someone offered me double/triple the money for the same job you'd have to be VERY tempted

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Tempted?

 

[Cuzz09]

Tempted?

Well I'd have to think about moving to the other side of the country

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[bzparkes]

Well I'd have to think about moving to the other side of the country

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Fair enough.

I've done it 3 times now, so I'd jump at the opportunity.

 

[We_The_West]

I wonder how the Port fans are feeling about Todd Marshall's long term deal give his concussion issues and recent injury...

I'm a big fan of Oscar and hope he has a career best year, which would warrant a long term deal.

 

[eaglevision]

Campbell locked in for three more

Braeden Campbell has recommitted to the Sydney Swans.

www.sydneyswans.com.au

Keep chewing through that salary cap boys.

 

[Bleedblueandgold]

Of course, losing Allen would leave us vulnerable since our potential replacement key forwards are only in their 1st and 2nd years, and it remains to be seen if Jack Williams can be a regular goalkicker.
I think that WC will eventually match other offers. He's in a different situation to TB and Darling.

 

[eaglevision]

Of course, losing Allen would leave us vulnerable since our potential replacement key forwards are only in their 1st and 2nd years, and it remains to be seen if Jack Williams can be a regular goalkicker.
I think that WC will eventually match other offers. He's in a different situation to TB and Darling.

It will depend on where we finish. If we finish bottom two I don’t think we would match provided Jake has another good year and two of Shanahan, JWill and Archer show enough.

Finishing 14th-16th is where it’s a bit murky and also depends on Swans asking price for Warner if he officially requests a trade.

 

[Happy Mastenator]

How does three years for Allen (probably in the top three talents on the list) compare with the contracts for Waterman, Yeo and Baker. I would say mean.

I know he has basically missed two of the last three years through injury which has been disappointing but offering him three years is pushing him out the door. Max King who is also often injured got a ten year contract from St Kilda.

This is where list management comes in though.

Of course Allen is worth a long term, richer, deal than Waterman, Yeo and Baker.

The question for the Eagles though, is given our list profile, do we want our two key forwards to be 27+ on long term contracts, when our team is rebuilding around a core that is younger.

The fact is he has played less than half the games available over the last three years so there is no need to rush a contact now. Lets see how he goes, lets see how our young KF's go with some game time, then reassess. If he breaks down, or the kids show flashes of talent, then we would be negligent to not let him walk if we get Band 1 compo back from a club that gives us the opportunity to add Warner and a top ~3 pick, while keeping next years first and our 2nd rounders+ this year.

Just paying him and giving him 5+ years without considering impact on our young key forwards is fraught with danger. That's how we lose talent that is more age aligned with Reid/Hewett and co. Would then need to have an exit plan on Waterman (if required).

 

[Barrybran]

He gets us one of those. Not all three

Where are Rodriguez and Curtin projected to go?

If Allen is picked up as a free agent, it is likely on band 1 money, netting is pick 3.

We trade pick 2 to Sydney for Warner. Any pick swaps should involve future picks.

We have Warner, pick 3 and the Hawthorn pick. We should land at least one of our draft targets, possibly two if Fremantle finish above Hawthorn.