List Mgmt. Contracts/Trade/Draft Thread - 2025 Edition

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Players out of Contract 2025 (16)

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• Tim Kelly (26/7/94) - Signed a 6 year contract (2020-25) in October 2019
• Dom Sheed (10/4/95) - Signed a 4 year extension (2022-25) in April 2021*
• Oscar Allen (19/3/99) - Signed a 3 year extension (2023-25) on an existing contract due to expire 2022 in May 2021
• Campbell Chesser (27/4/03) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) on an existing contract due to expire 2023 in May 2022
• Tom Cole (28/5/97) - Signed a 3 year extension (2023-25) in May 2022
• Rhett Bazzo (17/10/03) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) on an existing contract due to expire 2023 in September 2022
• Jayden Hunt (3/4/95) - Signed a 3 year contract (2023-25) in October 2022
• Callum Jamieson (31/7/00) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) in March 2023
• Jamie Cripps (23/4/92) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) in August 2023
• Jack Petruccelle (12/4/99) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) in August 2023
• (R) Jack Hutchinson (10/11/01) - Automatic 18 month contract (2024-25) when drafted in May 2024
• (R) Tyrell Dewar (27/3/04) - Signed a 1 year extension (2025) in June 2024
• (R) Loch Rawlinson (1/6/05) - Signed a 1 year extension (2025) in September 2024
• (R-B) Coen Livingstone (25/5/05) - Signed a 1 year extension (2025) in September 2024
• (R-B) Malakai Champion (17/5/06) - Automatic 1 year contract (2025) when added as a Cat B Rookie in November 2024
• (R) Sandy Brock (14/12/02) - Signed a 1 year contract (2025) when recruited as a SSP signing in February 2025

 

[Elite Pete]

Think WC were very aggressive on their list management in 2024, they just got outbid or couldn't land them.
Were into Peatling, Busslinger, D Cameron, Bolton, Warner, Kozzie all in 2024 that have been reported, there would have been others we don't know about.

I think they have had a real crack.

2025 into Warner, D Cameron, B Hill, Starcevich, Kozzie that we know about.
Great change of strategy imo.
They may only land 1 or maybe 2 but its not through lack of trying.

Warner is still playing out imo, most reporting on the vibe instead of any facts.
WC offer is very significant, only 2 scenarios Warner stays on 2 year contract at Sydney or he gets to WC.

Needed more mid help at the trade period or the draft. (Listen to the Nest pod cast) they summed it up well, they didn’t go the blue chip mid at the draft because they thought they had one coming 12 months later. Might work out but also we might not have any.

Not getting a ruck seems weird or even a state league ruck that they thought could compete of have upside.


These were always needs most knew we needed. Had plenty of small forwards and plenty more to come by the looks so Owies wasn’t a need but can see why they went there. Graham and Baker nice gets but as Don said this is all part of a big picture but hard to see what that is atm if there is no big fish on the end

 

[BSD]

Brander didn't have a great draft year after everyone caught up to him size wise. We reached for him

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The only ones with a lower footy IQ than Brander were the ones that decided to use our first draft pick on him.

 

[DanWCE]

Brander was matched up against a bottom aged Lukosius at the U18 Championships, and was getting absolutely toweled up in the first half, so they moved Brander at half time to the other end of the ground.

Competitiveness was one of the main knocks against Brander.

You know it's bad if Lukosius is pulling your pants down. That's a real battle of the pea hearts

 

[Ruben Grubarb]

The only ones with a lower footy IQ than Brander were the ones that decided to use our first draft pick on him.

"Hold my beer"

- Skidmark Clarke

 

[Cuzz09]

If Oscar decides to leave I can guarantee we will get shafted somehow and they'll be like "pick 33"

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[ghostbat12]

If Oscar decides to leave I can guarantee we will get shafted somehow and they'll be like "pick 33"

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That is, pick 33 to club that takes him. Just reward for screwing west coast.

 

[Elite Pete]

If Oscar decides to leave I can guarantee we will get shafted somehow and they'll be like "pick 33"

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100% band 1. No if it buts about that.

Harley is the one, being talked down in the media like he’s a bust, will only take him to go o. personal leave like a few current players and his trade price will be talked down even more

 

[JackOutback]

But I suspect he's a Priddis/Tom Mitchell type (not 100% sure). And if he is, it's fukity-heck-heck-fukeroo-heck-no.

A Brownlow medallist?

 

[WCE777]

Needed more mid help at the trade period or the draft. (Listen to the Nest pod cast) they summed it up well, they didn’t go the blue chip mid at the draft because they thought they had one coming 12 months later. Might work out but also we might not have any.

Not getting a ruck seems weird or even a state league ruck that they thought could compete of have upside.


These were always needs most knew we needed. Had plenty of small forwards and plenty more to come by the looks so Owies wasn’t a need but can see why they went there. Graham and Baker nice gets but as Don said this is all part of a big picture but hard to see what that is atm if there is no big fish on the end

Agree with their summing up of our position and the Warner play.
I have said this for a while, Warner was all but over the line last trade period come trade period 2025.
Will be very interesting next few weeks regarding Warner.

I am of the view that if Warner stays for 2 years its not ideal for WC but as long as we are in the conversation come FA, that's the second best option.

Who WC go after if Warner decides to stay is the big question, I am sure they are all over elite players they regard as list needs/gettable.

They may just throw a very good contract at an A grade player who isn't out of contract yet, will probably cost a 1st round pick but if they land an A grade that's good trading.

They have heaps of draft assets to draft elite mids if Warner stays, and add another A grade mid, all 2025/26 draft capital to make it happen and salary cap as well.

Rucks are a mystery but I think WC already know this, that's why they have been linked to Cameron.
Flynn will make way if we land a ruckman imo.
Its probably a 2026 trade discussion/priority with Cameron OOC in 2026 and we have more urgent needs in 2025.

That said if a ruckman from a state league pops up like maybe L McAndrew who signed on a rookie contract at the Crows and looks a long term prospect I am sure WC will do whatever it takes to land him, it may need to trade Barnett if he doesn't progress as a ruckman or KDEF.

 

[In The Rod We Trust]

They may just throw a very good contract at an A grade player who isn't out of contract yet, will probably cost a 1st round pick but if they land an A grade that's good trading.

Can see clubs being more open to trading this offseason for draft picks with Tasmania coming in. (Less players being "required players")

 

[Scotland]

100% band 1. No if it buts about that.

Harley is the one, being talked down in the media like he’s a bust, will only take him to go o. personal leave like a few current players and his trade price will be talked down even more

It will cost WC $2m a year for 10 years to keep him.

But also he's no up to AFL professionalism standards and Essendon should go to the draft instead of trading for him.

 

[Dom sheed pocket]

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It will cost WC $2m a year for 10 years to keep him.

But also he's no up to AFL professionalism standards and Essendon should go to the draft instead of trading for him.

I think both parties would be best of signing a 2 year extension on very good money and seeing where things sit in two years. We could be in a very different position list/ladder position wise, an Harley may have matured in terms of what is required to be a professional AFL player.

You can't hand out 10 year deals for 2 million dollars a year for guys who aren't up to scratch in terms of standards, and who are still a long way a way from delivering on a weekly basis.

And I don't think it would be good for Harley and the circus around him for him to be signing a 10 year deal and having the expectations of a 20 million dollar player on him.

The best way to break the current cycle we're in with the incessant media attention is a short, well paid contract extension. At the very least it buys everyone a little bit of time before working out what the next decade looks like.

 

[Elite Pete]

It will cost WC $2m a year for 10 years to keep him.

But also he's no up to AFL professionalism standards and Essendon should go to the draft instead of trading for him.

They definitely sound like they will be.

Plenty of other players have been in his scenario and gone onto be superstars.

But agreed there is risk there for the Bombers but so is going to the draft.

Been some average top 10 players in recent drafts. See how the year plays out

 

[WCE_phil]

They definitely sound like they will be.

Plenty of other players have been in his scenario and gone onto be superstars.

But agreed there is risk there for the Bombers but so is going to the draft.

Been some average top 10 players in recent drafts. See how the year plays out

I see a genuine top 7 prospects this year. 5 of which I really, really like. From there, it is a drop off imo however the top prospects look to be at a higher level than the last 2 years. We might not have a super high end talent in a Reid or JHF at this stage (or we might have a couple depending on who you ask) but the top 7 and maybe as much as 10 as I have them definitely are a tier above the early picks last year. I see those guys whilst all being quite different to having similar talent levels to say Lalor.

It is however a compromised draft and I don't see the non club tied depth of last year. Really hoping a couple of our NGA prospects can come on well this year as it would round out the clubs draft nicely.

Also think we really have to hope the hawks get worked out a bit more by clubs. If they were to finish 5th to me that is a real dead spot in the draft. You may as well have pick 25 as pick 14 imo.

This is all only really early and mostly based on those I watched last year.

 

[WCE777]

I see a genuine top 7 prospects this year. 5 of which I really, really like. From there, it is a drop off imo however the top prospects look to be at a higher level than the last 2 years. We might not have a super high end talent in a Reid or JHF at this stage (or we might have a couple depending on who you ask) but the top 7 and maybe as much as 10 as I have them definitely are a tier above the early picks last year. I see those guys whilst all being quite different to having similar talent levels to say Lalor.

It is however a compromised draft and I don't see the non club tied depth of last year. Really hoping a couple of our NGA prospects can come on well this year as it would round out the clubs draft nicely.

Also think we really have to hope the hawks get worked out a bit more by clubs. If they were to finish 5th to me that is a real dead spot in the draft. You may as well have pick 25 as pick 14 imo.

This is all only really early and mostly based on those I watched last year.

your top 7 are non club tied?

 

[briztoon]

There was an C&P article on the draft board yesterday, that ran through each CTL teams top draft chances, father sons and NGA’s. Mentioned quite a lot of bottom age father sons and nga kids.

I believe this year will become the norm, with up to 40% of the draft being club tied.

 

[InTheWings]

He would be an upgrade on what we have, but he's still shit. Just no interest.

Fair enough.

 

[boondy]

There was an C&P article on the draft board yesterday, that ran through each CTL teams top draft chances, father sons and NGA’s. Mentioned quite a lot of bottom age father sons and nga kids.

I believe this year will become the norm, with up to 40% of the draft being club tied.

Can you link it ? Or explain C&P and CTL

 

[briztoon]

Can you link it ? Or explain C&P and CTL

Preview - 2025 AFL Draft General Discussion

Is Sharp a clear no.1? He has been for the last 2 years, but things can change.

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[Notmuchofanexpert]

There is A LOT of water to go under the bridge so don't hold your breath, but if the reality that some on here are asking for comes to fruition re Oscar moving on, our midfield brigade could be rounded out this draft. At which point we have to just play the waiting game for a few years and hope they all develop. Not going for Warner right now may make sense because of this.

Rucks - Barnett, A.Reid or Jilliams (still think Barnett will come good)
Followers - H.Reid, Hewett, Greeves*
Wings - Dewar, Rodriguez*
Bench - Allan, Gross

HF/mid: Hutchinson, Graham, and Long
HB/mid: Baker and Johnston
Hall as the extra man

Won't take that many drafts to see the full picture. Just time.

I hope he doesn't go, but before some of you say Oscar will never leave. Cast your minds back to the year before Barrass moved on. A few people on here were talking about trading with Sydney and maximizing his value, some said "yeh nah you're dreaming". 12 months later we are stuck trading him to only one club and getting a decent deal, but not what we could of had a year prior when he was a year younger etc etc. Just food for thought.

*Greeves and Rodriguez picked at 4 and 5 if we get the appropriate compensation that every other club has been afforded over the years.

 

[eaglesnutcase]

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I think both parties would be best of signing a 2 year extension on very good money and seeing where things sit in two years. We could be in a very different position list/ladder position wise, an Harley may have matured in terms of what is required to be a professional AFL player.

You can't hand out 10 year deals for 2 million dollars a year for guys who aren't up to scratch in terms of standards, and who are still a long way a way from delivering on a weekly basis.

And I don't think it would be good for Harley and the circus around him for him to be signing a 10 year deal and having the expectations of a 20 million dollar player on him.

The best way to break the current cycle we're in with the incessant media attention is a short, well paid contract extension. At the very least it buys everyone a little bit of time before working out what the next decade looks like.

Matured? Not up to standards.?
19 yrs old and coming off a belter of a debut season .
Lower leg problems and a bout of concussion.
You guys are pretty blasé about the bloke who will become the greatest Eagle ever ( talent wise he’s already there )
You lot poke and prod (trade ) him like he’s a prize pig!
F**king idiots!

 

[Dom sheed pocket]

19 yrs old and coming off a belter of a debut season .
Lower leg problems and a bout of concussion.
You guys are pretty blasé about the bloke who will become the greatest Eagle ever ( talent wise he’s already there )
You lot poke and prod (trade ) him like he’s a prize pig!
F**king idiots!

Yes. He’s immensely talented but he still has a lot of learning and maturing to do on and off the field.

It’ll come with time, but a long term deal might not be what’s best for either party right now.

 

[ziad]

Yes. He’s immensely talented but he still has a lot of learning and maturing to do on and off the field.

Fortunately, at 19 I had none of those issues.

 

[Get_The_Gaff]

I’m probably in the minority but I don’t understand how anyone here can be advocating for a long term Oscar Allen extension, he’s so unfit, he’s the laziest player on the ground most weeks, he’s still on managed training sessions, I’m not sure that knee will ever be right again.

His general forward craft is disgustingly bad as well, it’s contested mark or bust for him nowadays, compare his work rate and leading patterns to Waterman and it’s night and day.

I don’t think Oscar is a very good leader either, seems like Duggan and now Baker do most of the captain duties.

It makes no sense to overpay and risk our future by giving him a six year deal when we can let him walk and bank a top two to four pick. Makes the potential Warner trade a lot easier or if he re-signs at Sydney it gives us two cracks at the best two top end mids available.

We have a key forward better than Allen in Waterman, we have Shanahan who looks incredible, A.Reid and J.Williams coming through, as well as Maric who looked good when used as a forward, wouldn’t be shocked if Jed Walter wants to come home within the next few years as well.

He’s a good player when he’s fully fit, but he’s barely ever fit anymore and his attitude on the field is not great in my opinion, he’s the exact type of player we should be shipping out to generate extra picks from. He has not shown nearly enough to warrant a six year deal on huge money and I’m sick to death of hearing about his good season two years ago, his body looks like it’s on the verge of breaking down.

Tassie’s coming in soon and rebuilding will be tough with how compromised those drafts will be, have to load up now.


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Oscar is so unfit and lazy ?
He ran 14kms in the heat vs Brisbane . 2nd highest of the game .

 

[Happy Mastenator]

Oscar is so unfit and lazy ?
He ran 14kms in the heat vs Brisbane . 2nd highest of the game .

But the camera barely showed him and he's a forward so he must have just been standing in the goal square most of the time.....