Corona virus, Port and the AFL. Part 2.

[Duckimus Prime]

Ch 7 only 22 hours behind the times.

So they're improving?

 

[Del165198]

The 43 richest Australians have 160 billion dollars. Take 90% of that off them to pay for corona. They'll still get to be obscenely rich. If they refuse to hand it over, shoot them

 

[Visenfest]

Amazing that people struggle with staying home while waiting for results of covid tests. I'm in isolation pending the results of a test I had yesterday (seriously doubt I have it) and I'm loving the opportunity to put my feet up.

I haven't been at any games since the St Kilda game, so nobody stress.

Result is negative yay

 

[Forzaport]

So never then.

There will always be community transmission in a city like Sydney because it's well established that the real infection rates are much higher than what is captured with the testing so confirmed cases will crop up from time to time with an unknown source.

 

[RussellEbertHandball]

The 43 richest Australians have 160 billion dollars. Take 90% of that off them to pay for corona. They'll still get to be obscenely rich. If they refuse to hand it over, shoot them

It is obscenely rich but its not all cash. Its net worth.

Rinehart owns about $10bil of iron ore ebbed in rocks. That doesn't instantaneously convert into cash overnight.

 

[Harlott]

It is obscenely rich but its not all cash. Its net worth.

Rinehart owns about $10bil of iron ore ebbed in rocks. That doesn't instantaneously convert into cash overnight.

Is that like saying I have a couple of billion in properties that I can’t cash overnight?

 

[dirty2]

Wouldnt mind enough money to pay off my mortgage... and maybe a carton of beer with the loose change....

 

[RussellEbertHandball]

What sort of effort will there be to get any vaccine administered worldwide? This one took a few decades.

 

[RussellEbertHandball]

Have added the last week's Vic figures to my spreadsheet, and the death rate with a 1 week lag to new cases continues to increase despite number of new daily cases decreasing.

You can see with so many deaths reported today that next weeks death rate is likely to hit 5%+ of last week's 1,226 cases.

 

[Leaveit2charlie]

What sort of effort will there be to get any vaccine administered worldwide? This one took a few decades.

Storage of the vaccine could be an issue that is going to be hard work. Usually vaccines are stored at fridge temperature but by accounts the Oxford vaccine needs to be stored at 70 below.
That's an issue that will slow things down.

 

[raptalia]

The University of Queensland vaccine has apparently sprinted up the list as early trials have shown no side effects.

Australian COVID-19 vaccine has zero side effects in humans, hamsters

A COVID-19 vaccine being developed by the University of Queensland has proven to produce no adverse effects on humans and hamsters.

www.dailymail.co.uk

 

[raptalia]

The Victorian death rate is possibly due to where a significant number of the cases have been detected. Unfortunately if the numbers in Aged Care Facilities remain high the death rate will remain high. The Morrison Government's response to the situation in Victorian Aged Care has been abysmal and Richard Colbeck should be sacked. To allow 'business as usual' after the tragedy of the Henderson and Newmarch Aged Care facilities is nothing short of a disgrace.

 

[pastmyprimus]

One of the risks in aged care facilities is wandering residents, residents who wander around a facility due to dementia.

These residents increase the risk of the spread of COVID-19. You can see how one dementia patient can widely spread the virus in a facility. Confined space, lack of PPE etc etc just makes things worse.

In Victoria, wandering residents have been transferred to public hospitals that are much better equipped to manage these residents. It's a late measure but one that will help.

 

[pastmyprimus]

Today's results for Vic - 113 new cases and 24 deaths. The downward trend in new cases continues.

 

[RossFC]

Today's results for Vic - 113 new cases and 24 deaths. The downward trend in new cases continues.

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Will we see football in Victoria in 2021?

 

[raptalia]

One of the risks in aged care facilities is wandering residents, residents who wander around a facility due to dementia.

These residents increase the risk of the spread of COVID-19. You can see how one dementia patient can widely spread the virus in a facility. Confined space, lack of PPE etc etc just makes things worse.

In Victoria, wandering residents have been transferred to public hospitals that are much better equipped to manage these residents. It's a late measure but one that will help.

True, but another telling issue appears to be staff working across sites. These people became infected, in rare cases asymptomatically, and spread the virus across several sites. The Federal Government knew the potential for this to happen as it had happened in NSW but they did nothing to stop the practice. Again as a late measure they moved ADF staff into the most severely infected Aged Care sites and stopped the practice of working across sites.

Morrison's response that Richard Colbeck has done a great job because 97% of sites have not been infected is lame excuse. in Victoria there have been 323 deaths in Aged Care and as the man at the top Senator Colbeck has to accept responsibility for that sad statistic. Colbeck's response to questioning at the Senate hearing is hardly that of a Minister who is on top of the situation.

Minister's 35 seconds of silence highlights coronavirus aged care failures

When the minister responsible for an aged care system in crisis fronted a parliamentary inquiry, he was asked a simple and predictable question yet didn't have the answer.

www.abc.net.au

The pressure is being applied in the Parliament. Colbeck's response to that pressure says it all.

'He's got to go': Labor ramps up calls for Aged Care Minister to be sacked

Labor calls for Aged Care Minister Richard Colbeck to be sacked, after he was compelled by the Senate to explain the Government's handling of coronavirus in aged care homes.

www.abc.net.au

 

[pastmyprimus]

Will we see football in Victoria in 2021?

If everything goes to plan there's a fair chance we'll see footy in Vic in 2021 but with crowd restrictions.

Another 3 weeks of Stage 4 lockdowns takes us to mid September. Then say 6 weeks of Stage 3 assuming numbers don't flare-up between in the next 3 weeks. That takes us to early November before restrictions are eased further (again assuming no large outbreaks). I think the key is to get community transmission well under control, not necessarily down to zero but close to zero.

So under the optimistic scenario I can see footy returning. But as we've seen in Victoria even small breaches (hotel quarantine program) can seed large outbreaks throughout the state, and then we could be back to square one. I think we're better prepared now to deal with the virus. A lot has been learnt through the mistakes made. Eg, we're peforming more testing, we're better at track and tracing and more is being done to protect aged care facilities.

 

[pastmyprimus]

True, but another telling issue appears to be staff working across sites. These people became infected, in rare cases asymptomatically, and spread the virus across several sites. The Federal Government knew the potential for this to happen as it had happened in NSW but they did nothing to stop the practice. Again as a late measure they moved ADF staff into the most severely infected Aged Care sites and stopped the practice of working across sites.

Morrison's response that Richard Colbeck has done a great job because 97% of sites have not been infected is lame excuse. in Victoria there have been 323 deaths in Aged Care and as the man at the top Senator Colbeck has to accept responsibility for that sad statistic. Colbeck's response to questioning at the Senate hearing is hardly that of a Minister who is on top of the situation.

Minister's 35 seconds of silence highlights coronavirus aged care failures

When the minister responsible for an aged care system in crisis fronted a parliamentary inquiry, he was asked a simple and predictable question yet didn't have the answer.

www.abc.net.au

Many of those staff working across multiple sites are casuals who weren't covered by JobKeeper. Makes it difficult to stay at home in self-isolation if you're living week to week and supporting a family.

It was a bad look for Morrison to use that figure of 97% as some sort of justification for the "good" job done. Just trying hard to deflect blame. It would have angered people who lost loved ones in aged care facilities.

 

[raptalia]

Many of those staff working across multiple sites are casuals who weren't covered by JobKeeper. Makes it difficult to stay at home in self-isolation if you're living week to week and supporting a family.

It was a bad look for Morrison to use that figure of 97% as some sort of justification for the "good" job done. Just trying hard to deflect blame. It would have angered people who lost loved ones in aged care facilities.

Didn't the Victorian Government introduce a payment for those who were forced to isolate at home? It was probably too late as the damage had been done.

 

[pastmyprimus]

Didn't the Victorian Government introduce a payment for those who were forced to isolate at home? It was probably too late as the damage had been done.

Yes you're right - they did but it did come late.

 

[OneGreatClub]

 

[Chewy316]

One rule for the 1%, another for everyone else..

 

[RussellEbertHandball]

pastmyprimus you have talked about more data being made available to the public. Here is an example in Germany of a daily report produced by the Robert Koch Institute. I have been looking at it every 2-4 weeks since late May and it has gone from about 5 pages to 13 pages.

The Robert Koch Institute seems to be a bit like the Peter Doherty Institute in Melbourne but has responsibility for data reporting for Germany. Germany has started a second wave with a 1,000 daily cases or so for the last 5 weeks or so but deaths have been maintained at about 5 a day over that period.

https://www.rki.de/DE/Content/InfAZ/N/Neuartiges_Coronavirus/Situationsberichte/2020-08-25-en.pdf?__blob=publicationFile

From page 5 of 13.
Clinical aspects
Information on symptoms is available for 195,563 (83%) of the notified cases. Commonly reported symptoms were cough (45%), fever (38%), rhinorrhoea (20%) and sore throat (19%). Pneumonia was reported in 5,418 cases (3%). Since calendar week 17, cases are reported to the RKI as a distinct COVID19 surveillance category. Since then, ageusia and anosmia can also be entered as symptoms. At least one of these two symptoms was reported in 7,798 of 51,222 cases (15%). Hospitalisation was reported for 32,045 (16%) of 203,098 COVID-19 cases with information on hospitalisation status. Approximately 209,300 people have recovered from their COVID-19 infection. Since the exact date of recovery is unknown in most cases, an algorithm was developed to estimate this number.

Here is the page where you can download the English version of the daily report.

RKI - Coronavirus SARS-CoV-2 - ARE-Wochenbericht, Pandemieradar, frühere COVID-19-Wochenberichte

Das RKI veröffentlicht arbeitstäglich einen Lagebericht mit einer detaillierten Analyse der COVID-19-Meldedaten.

www.rki.de

 

[Forzaport]

One rule for the 1%, another for everyone else..

Despicable.

 

[Forzaport]

Abbott wins FDA approval of $5, 15-minute COVID test

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Abbott Laboratories (NYSE:ABT) +6.5% after-hours following news that the FDA granted emergency use authorization for the company's 15-minute COVID-19 test...

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This will help to open up international travel or interstate travel for Australians.