Corona virus, Port and the AFL. Part 2.

[Holden Hillbilly]

Germany has recorded its highest daily coronavirus cases since the start of the pandemic. It added 6,638 new infections on Thursday, eclipsing the 28 March figure of 6,294. It follows Chancellor Angela Merkel and the premiers of the country’s 16 federal states agreeing to a new rule whereby cities or regions where infection rates are rising rapidly will have to impose an 11pm curfew for bars and restaurants.

 

[gbear]

Only 2 cases in Victoria today.

 

[pastmyprimus]

Only 2 cases in Victoria today.

That's a great number plus a relief. There's a potential super spreader event involving a truck driver from Melbourne who drove to Shepparton while infected who visited a number of spots. The town is undergoing mass testing which started a couple of days ago. The town isn't out of the woods yet but that number could have been much worse.

 

[raptalia]

Only two cases from 15,439 tests is great news for Victoria. We await the results from NSW...

NSW has 5 new cases and 4 of those are fly ins.

Between them NSW and Victoria have only had 3 local cases which is really good.

 

[raptalia]

Germany has recorded its highest daily coronavirus cases since the start of the pandemic. It added 6,638 new infections on Thursday, eclipsing the 28 March figure of 6,294. It follows Chancellor Angela Merkel and the premiers of the country’s 16 federal states agreeing to a new rule whereby cities or regions where infection rates are rising rapidly will have to impose an 11pm curfew for bars and restaurants.

A lot of these so called local lockdowns are pointless. Johnson has a similar scheme in place in the UK. You can have local lock downs provided you isolate the locked down areas but what is the point of locking down London if people are allowed to move into and out of the city? What is happening in Europe is arse covering by politicians who want to be seen to be doing something without shutting down their nation's economy.

 

[rumoursofwinter]

Only 2 cases in Victoria today.

Woot. Gonna be a good day!

 

[Interstater]

A lot of these so called local lockdowns are pointless. Johnson has a similar scheme in place in the UK. You can have local lock downs provided you isolate the locked down areas but what is the point of locking down London if people are allowed to move into and out of the city? What is happening in Europe is arse covering by politicians who want to be seen to be doing something without shutting down their nation's economy.

Melbourne learnt that the hard way, trying stage 1 and 2 before finally being forced to go to Stage 3.
Was hoping the Poms would learn from others mistakes rather than repeat them.

 

[MaxPowa]

Woot. Gonna be a good day!

I can think of one way this day could get even better...

 

[MaxPowa]

Only one locally acquired case in NSW and it's linked to a known cluster. Testing up to 16,391.

 

[raptalia]

The Victorian figures today are truly amazing !

Early reports are that Victoria will record just a single case.

The sceptic in me cannot help but note that the numbers have dropped dramatically on the eve of Daniel Andrews' big announcement re easing restrictions. Andrews would not be that mercenary would he? After the hotel quarantine fiasco anything is possible but I will give Daniel the benefit of the doubt and put it down to coincidence.



Let's hope the above is correct.


FOOTNOTE: NSW has returned 7 cases of which 5 are local infections. NSW returns consistently low numbers but cannot seem to eliminate the virus.

 

[raptalia]

It had to happen. Fourteen New Zealanders jeopardise it for others.

Passengers from New Zealand caught connecting flight to Melbourne

Seventeen passengers from New Zealand have travelled on to Melbourne, after arriving in Sydney under the trans-Tasman bubble arrangements.

www.abc.net.au

According to the ABF "domestic border restrictions are a matter for states and territories".

They are probably right but if Scott and Jacinda are going to have a travel bubble there have to be strict rules and a way of policing the rules. If not then don't have one.

Fortunately NZ is not Mumbai and these people do not appear to have got out of Tullamarine and do not pose any significant threat but travel to Victoria is considered a risk atm. Maybe the appropriate action in this case is for these 14 people to get a choice- do 14 days quarantine in NSW at your own expense or return to NZ.

Looks like the 'slippery seventeen' did leave the airport but Victorian Health cannot find them until the ABF locates their passenger cards. The question arises, how is it they were allowed to transit to Melbourne from Sydney? Did no one at the airline, or ABF, or the NSW Government realise that this was not allowed? Somehow the name 'Ruby Princess' keeps coming to mind.

Paper passenger cards will be out as Australia prepares for COVID-safe global travel

People arriving in Australia will soon enter their personal details into a digital system, rather than on paper, as the Federal Government considers how global travel will change to adapt to the coronavirus pandemic.

www.abc.net.au

 

[Ford Fairlane]

Under the new relaxed rules in Victoria hairdressers can open.

I wonder how the hairdresser that opened yesterday against regulations for a $10,000 fine is feeling today? I guess she had her 5 minutes of fame on the evening news.

 

[OneGreatClub]

Under the new relaxed rules in Victoria hairdressers can open.

I wonder how the hairdresser that opened yesterday against regulations for a $10,000 fine is feeling today? I guess she had her 5 minutes of fame on the evening news.

What an
Idiot she is

 

[Ford Fairlane]

25 NZ arrivals have traveled to Perth, 55 have signalled their intention to travel to Victoria. Australian government has washed their hands of intervention. Interstate travel is not their responsibility.

I would have thought that if you sign an international agreement it was your responsibility to enforce restrictions you agreed to.

 

[raptalia]

If you live in Melbourne you can run a marathon but if you need a piss halfway through you will need a convenient bush because public toilets are still closed. If you do need a bush be careful because outdoor photography is now allowed. Then again I suppose you could always call in for a hair cut en route and use their piss house.

Easy to talk on my side of the border but it seems like a sensible easing of restrictions with promises of more to come ahead of schedule if the numbers remain low. Daniel Andrews will be very wary of what happened last time Victoria came out of lockdown.

Well done Victoria.

Melbourne's new coronavirus rules explained

Victoria has been on a COVID numbers rollercoaster — and the restrictions designed to suppress the virus have been changing, too. Here's what's been announced for Melbourne.

www.abc.net.au

 

[raptalia]

25 NZ arrivals have traveled to Perth, 55 have signalled their intention to travel to Victoria. Australian government has washed their hands of intervention. Interstate travel is not their responsibility.

I would have thought that if you sign an international agreement it was your responsibility to enforce restrictions you agreed to.

Once again the Feds have handballed the difficult bits. You have to wonder what ****ing planet Morrison is operating from.

NZ travellers head outside trans-Tasman travel bubble, leaving states scrambling

Travellers arriving as part of the newly minted international arrangements with New Zealand have left state authorities scrambling, after taking internal flights to jurisdictions outside of the travel bubble.

www.abc.net.au

Why was Victoria even asked if they wanted to be part of a Trans Tasman Bubble ? When the first Kiwi who flies into Melbourne and gets infected returns to New Zealand there will be a diplomatic incident and that will be that- no more bubble.

 

[Ford Fairlane]

Now Kiwis have turned up in Tasmania! They spread like cane toads

 

[OneGreatClub]

Report on Hydroxychloroquine studies showing no benefits in covid 19 ( actual
2% increase in mortality)
Enjoy your stash Clive Palmer

https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2022926

Remdesivir useful for treatment of Covid 19 if given early enough

https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2007764

 

[raptalia]

The gift shop in the White House is selling a ' Trump defeats COVID' commemorative coin at 100 USD per coin.

 

[pastmyprimus]

WHO chief says herd immunity approach to pandemic 'unethical'

In this article, the head of WHO says naturally obtaining herd immunity would be “scientifically and ethically problematic”.

“Herd immunity is a concept used for vaccination, in which a population can be protected from a certain virus if a threshold of vaccination is reached”

“Allowing a dangerous virus that we don’t fully understand to run free is simply unethical. It’s not an option.” He pointed to the lack of information on the development of immunity to Covid-19, including how strong the immune response is and how long antibodies remain in the body.

He pointed out that it has been estimated that less than 10% of the population in most countries are believed to have contracted the disease. “The vast majority of people in most countries remain susceptible to this virus,” he said. “Letting the virus circulate unchecked therefore means allowing unnecessary infections, suffering and death.”

WHO chief says herd immunity approach to pandemic 'unethical'

Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus cites lack of understanding of virus and lasting health effects

www.theguardian.com

 

[backtozero]

I don't know how anyone can take the WHO seriously at this point.

 

[elee]

I don't know how anyone can take the WHO seriously at this point.

WHO is helmed by an Ethiopian Doctor.. who is not actually a medic.



Holland GPs are suing ...

 

[pastmyprimus]

I don't know how anyone can take the WHO seriously at this point.

From an epidemiologist that doesn't work for the WHO. His view: The reality is that herd immunity remains a dangerous path to tread without a vaccine.

Herd immunity for COVID-19 is still a terrible idea

newsGP - Herd immunity for COVID-19 is still a terrible idea

Epidemiologist Gideon Meyerowitz-Katz wants to dispel myths about herd immunity and coronavirus without a vaccine.

www1.racgp.org.au

 

[PAFC66]

We could eliminate road deaths by limiting vehicle speed to walking pace. For many things in life society has to make the trade off of risk vs reward.

We don't see exponential growth from road accidents in the healthcare system.
Brain dead analogy.

 

[PAFC66]

From an epidemiologist that doesn't work from the WHO. His view: The reality is that herd immunity remains a dangerous path to tread without a vaccine.

Herd immunity for COVID-19 is still a terrible idea

newsGP - Herd immunity for COVID-19 is still a terrible idea

Epidemiologist Gideon Meyerowitz-Katz wants to dispel myths about herd immunity and coronavirus without a vaccine.

www1.racgp.org.au

Of course it is. 70-80% of this population becoming infected to achieve this would see alot of deaths and overwhelmed healthcare facilities.