Corona virus, Port and the AFL.

[DaTBird187]

Makes me think about how different we will all be when we get to the other end of this.
I can't imagine you can just put it all aside and pretend it didn't happen.

People who were ****wits before this, who are acting like ****wits now, will be ****wits when this is all over.

 

[DaTBird187]

And let's hope they keeper there.

 

[pastmyprimus]

Looks like a lockdown for another 6 months. Never thought a man bun would suit me. I’m about to find out

 

[Interstater]

Looks like a lockdown for another 6 months. Never thought a man bun would suit me. I’m about to find out

I've been 50/50 about asking the missus to get out the clippers and go the #3 on my noggin, was kinda liking the 70's mullet look but its probably time to go low maintenance

 

[Eddie Dingle]

I've been 50/50 about asking the missus to get out the clippers and go the #3 on my noggin, was kinda liking the 70's mullet look but its probably time to go low maintenance

It’s poo if it’s not a #2

 

[EskimoPAFC]

A woman has allegedly spat in a supermarket worker’s face and gouged her eyes after being denied entry to a store on the NSW South Coast.
A woman has allegedly spat in a supermarket worker’s face and gouged her eyes after being denied entry to a store on the NSW South Coast.
Police say the 35-year-old became verbally abusive after being asked by staff to observe social distancing measures at the supermarket at Vincentia, southeast of Nowra about 3pm on Wednesday.
When a store worker, aged 49, asked the woman to leave she allegedly spat in her face and a fight erupted.
The younger woman allegedly pulled the worker’s hair, gouged her eyes and damaged her jewellery before leaving.
Police later arrested the 35-year-old at a Sanctuary Point home and charged her with common assault, assault occasioning bodily harm and damaging property. She’s due to appear in Nowra Local Court on June 15.

Woman eye gouges supermarket worker in NSW

A woman has allegedly spat in a supermarket worker’s face and gouged her eyes after being denied entry to a store on the NSW South Coast.

www.news.com.au

Bloody hope she spends a bit of time in goal. Is she stupid or what ???

The video at the top of this article is absolutely insane too.

It's a series of clips, the first of which is the worst because it's hard to really tell what's even going on or who's at fault, so skip through that one. The toilet paper one between the two women is... I don't even know how to describe it. How is that real life.

 

[Interstater]

The video at the top of this article is absolutely insane too.

It's a series of clips, the first of which is the worst because it's hard to really tell what's even going on or who's at fault, so skip through that one. The toilet paper one between the two women is... I don't even know how to describe it. How is that real life.

Most of that footage is from at least three weeks ago now.
I'm still trying to work out why its in newcorps interest to take the 0.01% and try and pretend thats the new normal.
Simple clickbait maybe.

 

[Tredz]

Most of that footage is from at least three weeks ago now.
I'm still trying to work out why its in newcorps interest to take the 0.01% and try and pretend thats the new normal.
Simple clickbait maybe.

No news is bad news;
Good news is dull news; and
Bad news makes for sensational headlines.

 

[Chewy316]

09/04/2020 10am

Total 6,08965*
Active 3,184*

Deaths 511
ICU 834*
Recoveries 2,85441*

Tests 327,0877,620*

NSW-2,77339
VIC-1,22816*
QLD-95310
SA-420
WA-481
ACT-99
TAS-107

 

[bomberclifford]

It’s poo if it’s not a #2

No comb on your dome.
#1 on your face is ace.

 

[TeeKray]

Good opportunity to prepare for when the robot/AI revolution takes place and unemployment hits 50% and stays there.

 

[El Zorro]

Good opportunity to prepare for when the robot/AI revolution takes place and unemployment hits 50% and stays there.

You can anticipate how that will play out: the "left" will propose some sort of universal basic income while the right will fight to cull the unemployed. 52% of voters, including a majority of soon-to-be sacrificed, will vote for the cull because, you know, at least it isn't socialism.

 

[Established1870]

Looks like a lockdown for another 6 months. Never thought a man bun would suit me. I’m about to find out

Daily shampoo, conditioner, brushing and hairspray along with having it high up is the best way to maintain man buns when you're out and about. (source; proud man bun owner)

 

[Established1870]

Good opportunity to prepare for when the robot/AI revolution takes place and unemployment hits 50% and stays there.

Are we talking Wall E robots or I, Robot robots?

 

[Del165198]

 

[Arsene Wenger]

Be very interested to see how Aussies behave over Easter. Could really be crucial either way.

 

[Jason K]

This whole thing has proven that the economy isn't real and about 85% of jobs are useless and exist purely to serve this giant monolithic mythical wealth generating beast called the economy aka hypothetical numbers on a spreadsheet. We've seen what's really important are the garbage collectors, nurses, police, supermarket staff, etc etc.

Technology long ago rendered most jobs useless and these days most people get paid basically to flick pointless emails back and forth. Imagine if we didn't have this weird societal pressure to sit in an office 40 hours a week to accrue money to buy things we don't need. Imagine if instead we had time to pursue our own interests and volunteer our time to perform useful services in things we're passionate about

I get what you are saying but there are plenty of people out of work atm that I would regard as essential to a healthy society but that are obviously required to shut down during this crisis. Gyms and sprting facilities, entertainment, travel etc spring to mind.

 

[JimmyBeerCans]

Gyms are not essential in the slightest

 

[Doctor Feel]

 

[RussellEbertHandball]

I don't agree it is as simple as that.

The economy crashing is going to effect me just as much as this virus,

Not if the virus kills you or someone you are close to - eg partner personal and/or business, kids etc. But yes the balance of probability is that economic impact for the majority of people is the aftermath of the virus.

I already know the virus is effecting me and my loved ones and it's absolutely an unfair assumption to imply that I do not care about the virus as long as it doesn't effect me.

I also am concerned about the future knock on effects and the possibilities of a prolonged shut down of the economy and the future impacts that it's going to have on me and my loved ones too as well as everyone else.


The balance is making sure our actions we take now does not ruin our future.

I never said you don't care or implied that.

I pointed to the basic self interest that all us humans possess that if it impacts, ie death or near death is close to you, it drives your sense of balance and where to draw the line compared to if you don't know anyone affected by the health impact.

Read history, we wont be ruined. Countries have had the shit bombed out of them in the world wars (or other wars) and they bounced back. The great depression was soul destroying, but people slowly climbed out of the rut. The Spanish influenza that started before World War I ended killed plenty of people between 1918-20 and lingered for a few years, but you had the roaring '20's soon after.

Why were the 1950's seen in Oz (and the west) as a golden generation? Because after 20 years of the great depression, WWII and then rationing after the War, the shackles were finally released and boom times occurred.

Same thing will happen here, it will be shit for a year or two - until a vaccine is found this thing won't be over - don't expect to be going to the footy until then, then a struggle for another year or two as people try and rebuild, and then boom times will be back because people will get sick of being restricted.

The economy won't be ruined, it will be different and not as so free and laissez faire as before and we have to take a few step backwards and pay more for stuff. No dramas. Its just a bigger struggle.

We have had deep recessions before and come out of it. No different here.

Yes unfortunately some businesses will be ruined, no fault of the owners who might have spent 30-40 years building the business. I feel for them, as many wont be able to get jobs given their age and for those who don't have the capital to start again, and the goodwill they built up to sell out for their retirement, has been wiped out.

To me ruined is living in a refugee camp in northern Syria / southern Turkey. We are a long way from that.

 

[pastmyprimus]

Modelling from the University of Sydney shows that our isolation measures are working but removing them could see a big spike in transmissions. The academic behind the modelling believes a spike can be avoided but it would rely on a big ramp-up on testing.

"If we have better and more efficient testing, and good contact tracing of cases, we can track down all remaining cases and reduce them to zero," he says.

"Even asymptomatic people could be tested to catch all the cases immediately."

"The testing regime has to move towards, at a minimum, everyone with symptoms — and finding a way to get to asymptomatic people too. Essentially there has to be a very big, extensive testing program put into place over the next few weeks around Australia."

Data reveals why our isolation can't just end when we've flattened the curve

Data suggests Australia's strict physical-distancing measures are beginning to work — but the risks are huge if we relax too quickly.

www.abc.net.au

 

[NEGAN]

Not if the virus kills you or someone you are close to - eg partner personal and/or business etc. But yes the balance of probability is that economic impact for the majority of people is the aftermath.


I never said you don't care or implied that.

I pointed to the basic self interest that all us humans possess that if it impacts, ie death or near death is close to you, it drives your sense of balance and where to draw the line compared to if you don't know anyone affected by the health impact.

Read history, we wont be ruined. Countries have had the shit bombed out of them in the world wars (or other wars) and they bounced back. The great depression was soul destroying, but people slowly climbed out of the rut. The Spanish influenza that started before World War I ended killed plenty of people between 1918-20 and lingered for a few years, but you had the roaring '20's soon after.

Why were the 1950's seen in Oz (and the west) as a golden generation? Because after 20 years of the great depression, WWII and then rationing after the War, the shackles were finally released and boom times occurred.

Same thing will happen here, it will be shit for a year or two - until a vaccine is found this thing won't be over - don't expect to be going to the footy until then, then a struggle for another year or two as people try and rebuild, and then boom times will be back because people will get sick of being restricted.

The economy won't be ruined, it will be different and not as so free and laissez faire as before and we have to take a few step backwards and pay more for stuff. No dramas. Its just a bigger struggle.

We have had deep recessions before and come out of it. No different here.

Yes unfortunately some businesses will be ruined, no fault of the owners who might have spent 30-40 years building the business. I feel for them, as many wont be able to get jobs given their age and for those who don't have the capital to start again, and the goodwill they built up to sell out for their retirement, has been wiped out.

To me ruined is living in a refugee camp in northern Syria / southern Turkey. We are a long way from that.

Sorry mate,

I misinterpreted what you meant in your original post......

I will reply proper when I get the chance.

 

[Magus]

I know a lot of millennials have rightfully copped it for being too relaxed around social distancing but when you're out and about, it's quite stunning how many of the most at-risk people (60s and over) are just going about their business without a care in the world. I've seen so many people just browsing through non-essential shit without a mask or gloves.

It's interesting how the youngsters get branded selfish and naive because they've never been through war or any kind of economic disaster while the oldies just carry on without any criticism.

 

[Chewy316]

Be very interested to see how Aussies behave over Easter. Could really be crucial either way.

You'd like to think that people will do the "right" thing.

Even if people do the "wrong" thing, there'll no doubt be a spike in infections, but one could reasonably expect that the rate of infection would drop very soon thereafter, given that all of the restrictions are still in place.

I think if people take the Easter weekend restrictions seriously, the curve will stay flat (ie no increase in rate of new cases) and this will mean that discussions on how to slowly reintegrate society back into the real world will take place. Not saying that will be days or weeks away, but an increase in the rate of new cases will only pour fuel on the fire and result in any restrictions being potentially even longer than forecasted.

Gyms are not essential in the slightest

Maybe not to you, but try telling that to the people who use the gym solely for their mental health and well-being.

Modelling from the University of Sydney shows that our isolation measures are working but removing them could see a big spike in transmissions. The academic behind the modelling believes a spike can be avoided but it would rely on a big ramp-up on testing.

"If we have better and more efficient testing, and good contact tracing of cases, we can track down all remaining cases and reduce them to zero," he says.

"Even asymptomatic people could be tested to catch all the cases immediately."

"The testing regime has to move towards, at a minimum, everyone with symptoms — and finding a way to get to asymptomatic people too. Essentially there has to be a very big, extensive testing program put into place over the next few weeks around Australia."

Data reveals why our isolation can't just end when we've flattened the curve

Data suggests Australia's strict physical-distancing measures are beginning to work — but the risks are huge if we relax too quickly.

www.abc.net.au

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Great article and discussion PMP. As with the removal of any restriction, there needs to be a way of balancing any potential hazards that come with that. As it stands, given the lack of efficacious treatment and/or preventative measures, increased testing seems the best weapon we have.

Do you by any chance happen to know of the average age of people in Australia who have been hospitalised by this condition? Say if the average age was 70, would it not be unreasonable when slowly bringing back restrictions to keep restrictions on the ageing population say 65+, keeping them in isolation and letting some of the younger people get the economy going? Is that a potential practical solution (along with the increased testing) going forward?

 

[Interstater]

In the abscence of a vaccine I still think we should be looking at an age related recovery.

At the appropriate time (a month from now?) let everyone under 40 go back to face to face work with systems in place that allow for people above that age to assist\work from home.
Monitor/manage.

At the appropriate time (3 months from now) everyone 40-50 can return to face to face work.
Monitor/manage.

At some later stage (perhaps 6 months from now) people 50-60 can return to face to face work.
Monitor/manage.

Lower the pension age to 60 (or call it a universal wage that kicks in at 60).