Corona virus, Port and the AFL.

[TeeKray]

The most useless things of all are those Instagram influencers. What an absolute waste of space.

Weren't we talking about actual jobs?

 

[Del165198]

ITS THE METICULOUSLY CRAFTED BID BY BIG PHARMA TO TAKE OVER THE WORLD.

God it feels so good to finally get that out. I am actually in tears.

 

[Chewy316]

Staff need to be upskilled. That doesn’t happen overnight for such specialised areas.

I know it doesn't. My point was more to whether there has been a time frame provided by any official source as to when this was all meant to be in place by.

 

[OneGreatClub]

I know it doesn't. My point was more to whether there has been a time frame provided by any official source as to when this was all meant to be in place by.

No...but of course as soon as possible, along with good supplies of PPE.
As they have said, the next lot of modelling, which will be based specifically on Australian data will help guide the next steps and the way forward.

 

[OneGreatClub]

 

[Interstater]

No...but of course as soon as possible, along with good supplies of PPE.
As they have said, the next lot of modelling, which will be based specifically on Australian data will help guide the next steps and the way forward.

From the Q and A transcript from Monday night

KATIE ALLEN

Look, I think the first thing to say is we are not Italy, we are not France or Germany, or England even. We are in a very different scenario at this point in time. So, just to remind people that if you go to see hospitals at the moment, they are not doing elective surgery, they are very quiet – we only have, as far as I know, at this point in time, 33 people with coronavirus on a ventilator. We have 2,200 ventilators across Australia, we’re rapidly increasing our capacity, using the private healthcare system, to increase that to 4,500, and we’ve been working very hard for many weeks now to prepare for 7,500 ventilators.

Now, that is where the capacity with regards to healthcare workforce needs to be concentrated. Because, as most of the community knows, most conditions...most of this coronavirus is a mild condition and you can actually stay at home and self-isolate. There is probably about 4% of those who get the virus that need to go to hospital, about 1% of those end up needing a ventilator. So if we have 7,500 ventilators, that means there needs to be 750,000 people with coronavirus at any time in Australia. Now, we’re at 5,000 at the moment – that is a long way to go before we reach our capacity.

But, despite that, as a government, we’re being very careful to make sure that we’re prepared for the equipment, the PPEs that are coming online, as has been spoken before, we’re very careful about looking at ventilator capacity, and we’re also bringing more nurses online, because those intensive care beds need 24-hour care, and we do need more nurses, so we’ve put a lot of online training together, we’re bringing more people into the workforce to make sure that we’re ready for a possibility that may actually not actually eventuate, but we need to prepare for the worst and hope for the best.

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Put on your modellers hats people:
Assume we were able to keep the number at exactly 750,000 active cases nationally and each case required 2 weeks of hospital time.
24.6/1.5 million = 16.4 months
Then assume you only need 60% of people to have had it = 9.8 months.

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But then again, we are being told 1. the government does not accept the herd immunity model and 2. in 6 months the money runs out.

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I can't quite see how the numbers work yet.

But then again - lets see what Easter does first.

 

[G3TWOTYAD3S3RV]

Does anyone have any info on immunity to cocos-19 once you’ve had it & recovered ?


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[OneGreatClub]

Does anyone have any info on immunity to cocos-19 once you’ve had it & recovered ?


On iPhone using BigFooty.com mobile app

No links but I read somewhere today that recovered patients aren’t showing a very high antibody level so that could be a concern.
This is one weird virus.
I see Germany plan to do large scale antibody testing so that should be interesting.
Oops found the link.

 

[Vagabond0]

As soon as the government started providing funding and costings for 6 months for their different stimulus packages I knew we were in for 6 months of varying forms of lockdown. Then the NZ modelling showed peak in July in winter and I said ok another nail in the coffin. Then government started using the phrase hibernation and any doubts I had was over.

My lad was scheduled to meet his new cardiologist end of last month. Transitioning from WCH to RAH.

Appointment has been rescheduled due to covid19 concerns. New appointment.... 6 months from now.

I like the yogi bear and hibernation reference.

Looks like theme song for the movies they'll want to make about Covid19 should be Wake me up when September ends.

 

[RussellEbertHandball]

For the grandparents out there missing out on their grandkids. My old man was smiling and tearing up at the same time.

 

[Vagabond0]

Blessed are the Greeks

How has Greece flattened the coronavirus curve?

An early lockdown, forced by the nation’s economic fragility, has meant Greece is only using a tenth of its ICU beds.

www.aljazeera.com

 

[OneGreatClub]

Iceland’s massive covid 19 testing looks to be revealing some information that will be useful for Other countries to look at in modelling transmission and community spread.

Started mass resting in early February, along with aggressive and prolonged quarantine etc.

Only 50% of those testing positive showed symptoms.

Interesting to note that they have been able to identify minor mutations of the virus from different geographic origins....Italy Austria UK and east coast of USA and there is the question being asked whether these specific different mutations are responsible for the variable morbidity and mortality in different individuals.

Makes me wonder again whether the Ruby Princess strain is a particularly virulent and dangerous one and hope to God the contract tracing has been able to minimise any community spread of this strain.

Iceland lab's testing suggests 50% of coronavirus cases have no symptoms

There's a lot about Iceland that other countries could envy: Its spectacular natural surroundings, its place among the world's happiest countries, and, now, its large-scale testing for the novel coronavirus, which could influence how the world understands the outbreak.

www.cnn.com

 

[raptalia]

GWS CEO Dave Matthews suggesting the COVID-19 Crisis crisis could move AFL clubs to consider private ownership. That is OK if you get the right investors. I would not like my club being owned by Flight Centre or Carnival Australia at this stage. With the downturn in trade and sales big business will not be immune from the fall out and they will look to cut costs. In those circumstances propping up AFL clubs would not be an option for some companies.

 

[EskimoPAFC]

 

[raptalia]

Iceland’s massive covid 19 testing looks to be revealing some information that will be useful for Other countries to look at in modelling transmission and community spread.

Started mass resting in early February, along with aggressive and prolonged quarantine etc.

Only 50% of those testing positive showed symptoms.

Interesting to note that they have been able to identify minor mutations of the virus from different geographic origins....Italy Austria UK and east coast of USA and there is the question being asked whether these specific different mutations are responsible for the variable morbidity and mortality in different individuals.

Makes me wonder again whether the Ruby Princess strain is a particularly virulent and dangerous one and hope to God the contract tracing has been able to minimise any community spread of this strain.

Iceland lab's testing suggests 50% of coronavirus cases have no symptoms

There's a lot about Iceland that other countries could envy: Its spectacular natural surroundings, its place among the world's happiest countries, and, now, its large-scale testing for the novel coronavirus, which could influence how the world understands the outbreak.

www.cnn.com

Iceland as the name suggests also has cooler air temperature and that may affect the Icelandic results. Last week the average maximum in Reykjavik was 2 deg celsius.

 

[Holden Hillbilly]

 

[pastmyprimus]

In which case, do you know when they will be ready? We've seen plenty of government ads and social media posts outlining the reopening of many hospital wards adding multiple beds, ICU beds and ventilators, but does anyone know definitively when this is all meant to have been up and running by? Because that could provide a good indicator as to when a serious consideration of lifting some of the restrictions will occur.

I work in a hospital, and I'd say that the delay in the surge has helped us to prepare better. For example by freeing up beds by cancelling non-urgent elective surgery, making arrangements with a nearby private hospital to deal with oveflow and bringing in more equipment. We were a lot less prepared a few weeks ago. The current restrictions have bought us time.

It's also given state governments time to put in place contigencies for a surge, like preparing to re-open old hospitals, doing deals with private hospitals to access ICU beds, and building make-shift hospitals in places like convention centres and sporting facilites. The contigencies can be put in place quickly when needed.

 

[VineValerian]

Went to Coles last night at 8pm - not many people there at that time. Usually we do it Thursday nights now, but thought that Easter Thursday may be busy so went last night.

Was looking at one item in my aisle and heard this voice boom out "don't f****** tell me that s***. You can just f*** right off you f****** moron. Go on! F*** off".... yada yada yada.

Looked up to see some late 20's / early 30's bloke with shaved head and a mean look on his face striding up the aisle with a handful of things under his arm. Not sure what his beef was - maybe had one too many items of a particular type than was allowable? Maybe asked an attendant if they had something in stock and was told they had sold out? Dunno.

Anyway those in the vicinity were all wide-eyed and jaws dropped. Saw a Coles worker with a shocked look on his face, which then turned to anger. Was close to 60 as he was older with gray hair. So he went up the aisle with a clenched jaw and firm glare to suggest the guy had abused him for no good reason. Presumably to get the security guard to deal with the idiot.

Honestly, some people!

 

[Forzaport]

Just saw a bit of the Supercars Eseries. Much better than I thought it would be. We really should have kept Wingard.

 

[OneGreatClub]

GWS CEO Dave Matthews suggesting the COVID-19 Crisis crisis could move AFL clubs to consider private ownership. That is OK if you get the right investors. I would not like my club being owned by Flight Centre or Carnival Australia at this stage. With the downturn in trade and sales big business will not be immune from the fall out and they will look to cut costs. In those circumstances propping up AFL clubs would not be an option for some companies.

 

[Macca19]

Went to Coles last night at 8pm - not many people there at that time. Usually we do it Thursday nights now, but thought that Easter Thursday may be busy so went last night.

Was looking at one item in my aisle and heard this voice boom out "don't f****** tell me that s***. You can just f*** right off you f****** moron. Go on! F*** off".... yada yada yada.

Looked up to see some late 20's / early 30's bloke with shaved head and a mean look on his face striding up the aisle with a handful of things under his arm. Not sure what his beef was - maybe had one too many items of a particular type than was allowable? Maybe asked an attendant if they had something in stock and was told they had sold out? Dunno.

Anyway those in the vicinity were all wide-eyed and jaws dropped. Saw a Coles worker with a shocked look on his face, which then turned to anger. Was close to 60 as he was older with gray hair. So he went up the aisle with a clenched jaw and firm glare to suggest the guy had abused him for no good reason. Presumably to get the security guard to deal with the idiot.

Honestly, some people!

I watched a checkout attendant quit in the aisle next to where i was on Monday night. Poor lad was in all sorts

 

[Smithy7]

A woman has allegedly spat in a supermarket worker’s face and gouged her eyes after being denied entry to a store on the NSW South Coast.
A woman has allegedly spat in a supermarket worker’s face and gouged her eyes after being denied entry to a store on the NSW South Coast.
Police say the 35-year-old became verbally abusive after being asked by staff to observe social distancing measures at the supermarket at Vincentia, southeast of Nowra about 3pm on Wednesday.
When a store worker, aged 49, asked the woman to leave she allegedly spat in her face and a fight erupted.
The younger woman allegedly pulled the worker’s hair, gouged her eyes and damaged her jewellery before leaving.
Police later arrested the 35-year-old at a Sanctuary Point home and charged her with common assault, assault occasioning bodily harm and damaging property. She’s due to appear in Nowra Local Court on June 15.

Woman eye gouges supermarket worker in NSW

A woman has allegedly spat in a supermarket worker’s face and gouged her eyes after being denied entry to a store on the NSW South Coast.

www.news.com.au

Bloody hope she spends a bit of time in goal. Is she stupid or what ???

 

[Canoogs]

There's been a bit of discussion about economic costs vs health costs and our brains are used to dealing in trade-offs and so it's pretty common for people to naturally think that the decision is about balancing the two. But the world is not so simple. Thinking like this is a false dichotomy. If we don't take the economically painful decisions now, even worse economically painful outcomes will occur in the future. We're seeing Italy appear to be finally coming off the peak and slowing down. But their economy is still locked down, and it will be many weeks still before the amount of infection amongst the community allows them to start easing restrictions and start recovery in their economy. The choice isn't economic versus health. It's taking about whether you're willing to take big costs now, or to take bigger costs later. In economic crises (and public health crises), it's far more important to be timely than to be correct.

It's an entirely valid response to feel worried about the economic impacts this pandemic will have. I consider myself fairly knowledgeable about macroeconomics and I'm very worried about the long term impacts (well, short-run from an economist standpoint). 10% of GDP spending in the next 6 months for Jobkeeper is enormous. It's going to take some time to get back from this... But, it is a least worse alternative to not confronting the public health emergency.

 

[Interstater]

I watched a checkout attendant quit in the aisle next to where i was on Monday night. Poor lad was in all sorts

Makes me think about how different we will all be when we get to the other end of this.
I can't imagine you can just put it all aside and pretend it didn't happen.

Now where was that interview between Timmy and Greg Quinn again.
We are so fortunate to have this football club, I wouldn't want to think about this isolation without having things like this forum.

 

[Alyx]

Bloody hope she spends a bit of time in goal.

And let's hope they keeper there.