Corona virus, Port and the AFL.

[Interstater]

Please give me immediate feedback on this one.

My son lives at his girlfriends house 12 days in every fortnight. They spend one weekend in two at ours.
We live about an hour away (they are near Gawler in SA, we are in the eastern foothills).

Are they allowed to come over tomorrow?

My wife just had a fit when I told her that my interpretation is that they cannot come over.

 

[DaTBird187]

Gyms are not essential in the slightest

Chad Cornes gives this opinion two squats down.

 

[DaTBird187]

They are the most frightening eyes I have ever seen.

 

[Forzaport]

Modelling from the University of Sydney shows that our isolation measures are working but removing them could see a big spike in transmissions. The academic behind the modelling believes a spike can be avoided but it would rely on a big ramp-up on testing.

"If we have better and more efficient testing, and good contact tracing of cases, we can track down all remaining cases and reduce them to zero," he says.

"Even asymptomatic people could be tested to catch all the cases immediately."

"The testing regime has to move towards, at a minimum, everyone with symptoms — and finding a way to get to asymptomatic people too. Essentially there has to be a very big, extensive testing program put into place over the next few weeks around Australia."

Data reveals why our isolation can't just end when we've flattened the curve

Data suggests Australia's strict physical-distancing measures are beginning to work — but the risks are huge if we relax too quickly.

www.abc.net.au

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I'm guessing we don't reinstate physical distancing if there's a second spike and just do nothing?

 

[wannabejack]

Please give me immediate feedback on this one.

My son lives at his girlfriends house 12 days in every fortnight. They spend one weekend in two at ours.
We live about an hour away (they are near Gawler in SA, we are in the eastern foothills).

Are they allowed to come over tomorrow?

My wife just had a fit when I told her that my interpretation is that they cannot come over.

This from the ABC news site may help.

SA's coronavirus restrictions explained: The dos, the don'ts and the try-not-tos

The global coronavirus pandemic has changed the way South Australians live, work and socialise. Here's a breakdown of how the rules affect you.

www.abc.net.au

 

[pastmyprimus]

You'd like to think that people will do the "right" thing.

Even if people do the "wrong" thing, there'll no doubt be a spike in infections, but one could reasonably expect that the rate of infection would drop very soon thereafter, given that all of the restrictions are still in place.

I think if people take the Easter weekend restrictions seriously, the curve will stay flat (ie no increase in rate of new cases) and this will mean that discussions on how to slowly reintegrate society back into the real world will take place. Not saying that will be days or weeks away, but an increase in the rate of new cases will only pour fuel on the fire and result in any restrictions being potentially even longer than forecasted.



Maybe not to you, but try telling that to the people who use the gym solely for their mental health and well-being.



Great article and discussion PMP. As with the removal of any restriction, there needs to be a way of balancing any potential hazards that come with that. As it stands, given the lack of efficacious treatment and/or preventative measures, increased testing seems the best weapon we have.

Do you by any chance happen to know of the average age of people in Australia who have been hospitalised by this condition? Say if the average age was 70, would it not be unreasonable when slowly bringing back restrictions to keep restrictions on the ageing population say 65+, keeping them in isolation and letting some of the younger people get the economy going? Is that a potential practical solution (along with the increased testing) going forward?

Can't help you with data on the average age for patients hospitalised for covid.

Any easing of restrictions will need to consider high risk parts of the population:

- the eldery
- people with weakened immune systems
- people with chronic medical conditions like heart disease, diabetes and high blood pressure
- Aboriginal people

 

[Powerade 08]

Please give me immediate feedback on this one.

My son lives at his girlfriends house 12 days in every fortnight. They spend one weekend in two at ours.
We live about an hour away (they are near Gawler in SA, we are in the eastern foothills).

Are they allowed to come over tomorrow?

My wife just had a fit when I told her that my interpretation is that they cannot come over.

I don’t see why it would be a problem unless there are police that will give them a hard time on the trip across.

The rules in each state are different, SA is still 10 people for outside gatherings.

 

[Magpiespower]

Went to Coles last night at 8pm - not many people there at that time. Usually we do it Thursday nights now, but thought that Easter Thursday may be busy so went last night.

Was looking at one item in my aisle and heard this voice boom out "don't f****** tell me that s***. You can just f*** right off you f****** moron. Go on! F*** off".... yada yada yada.

Looked up to see some late 20's / early 30's bloke with shaved head and a mean look on his face striding up the aisle with a handful of things under his arm. Not sure what his beef was - maybe had one too many items of a particular type than was allowable? Maybe asked an attendant if they had something in stock and was told they had sold out? Dunno.

Anyway those in the vicinity were all wide-eyed and jaws dropped. Saw a Coles worker with a shocked look on his face, which then turned to anger. Was close to 60 as he was older with gray hair. So he went up the aisle with a clenched jaw and firm glare to suggest the guy had abused him for no good reason. Presumably to get the security guard to deal with the idiot.

Honestly, some people!

Some dopey shitgibbon went ballistic at the Coles Parabanks checkout the other night. Had too many toilet papers or some shit. One of the managers asked him to calm down but he wouldn't so he kicked him out.

"F@%k you and f@%k Coles, ya campaigner! I'll go to Woolies!"

Now... Woolies is directly opposite Coles. And all the Woolies staff saw him going off. So they straight up refused him entry. The injustice! Old mate went ballistic again.

"NOW WHAT THE F@%K AM I GONNA DO?"

His ranting and raving drew centre security. Pointing to the exit, a guard asked him to leave. The belligerent bastard refused to go, of course. Back-up was called and, as they escorted him out, old mate screamed his absolute **** off.

"F@%K THIS PLACE! I'M NEVER F@%KEN SHOPPING HERE AGAIN! EVER! NEVER EVER, F@%K YA! I'LL GO TO ELIZABETH! HOLLYWOOD PLAZA! F@%KEN MUNNO! F@%K! PARA! BANKS!"

 

[JimmyBeerCans]

Maybe not to you, but try telling that to the people who use the gym solely for their mental health and well-being.

Go for a heckin'g walk or a run, lift something heavy in the grudge.. grow up

 

[Forzaport]

Please give me immediate feedback on this one.

My son lives at his girlfriends house 12 days in every fortnight. They spend one weekend in two at ours.
We live about an hour away (they are near Gawler in SA, we are in the eastern foothills).

Are they allowed to come over tomorrow?

My wife just had a fit when I told her that my interpretation is that they cannot come over.

Use your best judgement - e.g. does your son or his girlfriend work in a hospital? Will there be elderly people at your house? How many people will be at your house? Do you currently have regular social contact with your son?

If your son & his girlfriend aren't in a high risk job, it'll just be them over for a lunch then it's probably ok.

 

[Duckimus Prime]

Please give me immediate feedback on this one.

My son lives at his girlfriends house 12 days in every fortnight. They spend one weekend in two at ours.
We live about an hour away (they are near Gawler in SA, we are in the eastern foothills).

Are they allowed to come over tomorrow?

My wife just had a fit when I told her that my interpretation is that they cannot come over.

SA is still at no more than 10 people for gatherings. We didn't implement the no more than two people recommendation that was brought in in the Eastern states.

 

[Capital Power]

Some dopey shitgibbon went ballistic at the Coles Parabanks checkout the other night. Had too many toilet papers or some shit. One of the managers asked him to calm down but he wouldn't so he kicked him out.

"F@%k you and f@%k Coles, ya campaigner! I'll go to Woolies!"

Now... Woolies is directly opposite Coles. And all the Woolies staff saw him going off. So they straight up refused him entry. The injustice! Old mate went ballistic again.

"NOW WHAT THE F@%K AM I GONNA DO?"

His ranting and raving drew centre security. Pointing to the exit, a guard asked him to leave. The belligerent bastard refused to go, of course. Back-up was called and, as they escorted him out, old mate screamed his absolute **** off.

"F@%K THIS PLACE! I'M NEVER F@%KEN SHOPPING HERE AGAIN! EVER! NEVER EVER, F@%K YA! I'LL GO TO ELIZABETH! HOLLYWOOD PLAZA! F@%KEN MUNNO! F@%K! PARA! BANKS!"

That feeling when you read a post on your phone and try and guess the identity of the poster, and you are batting 100% with magpiespower

 

[Chewy316]

Please give me immediate feedback on this one.

My son lives at his girlfriends house 12 days in every fortnight. They spend one weekend in two at ours.
We live about an hour away (they are near Gawler in SA, we are in the eastern foothills).

Are they allowed to come over tomorrow?

My wife just had a fit when I told her that my interpretation is that they cannot come over.

My understanding is that they can come over for Easter. The restrictions vary from state to state. In SA I'm pretty sure the limit is still up to 10 people in a room whilst maintaining social distancing principles.

As someone above said, just be responsible about it. If the people coming over are immunocompromised, elderly, have an occupation that puts them at increased exposure etc, maybe it's worth having easter over Skype or Zoom. But otherwise, shouldn't be an issue.

 

[Magus]

Go for a heckin'g walk or a run, lift something heavy in the grudge.. grow up

Are you trying to say that people maintained physical fitness long before private gyms became a thing?

I won't believe it.

 

[Capital Power]

Please give me immediate feedback on this one.

My son lives at his girlfriends house 12 days in every fortnight. They spend one weekend in two at ours.
We live about an hour away (they are near Gawler in SA, we are in the eastern foothills).

Are they allowed to come over tomorrow?

My wife just had a fit when I told her that my interpretation is that they cannot come over.

In NSW/ACT the guidance is that if you have more than one place of residence, you are expected to pick one and stay there. We have a feared potential spike here given the number of locals who own holiday homes at the coast. Naturally I can't comment for SA's rules.

I tend to be conservative anyway, but my take would be that your position is correct. These are not normal times, and we can't all stick to our normal routines.

 

[Duckimus Prime]

Some dopey shitgibbon went ballistic at the Coles Parabanks checkout the other night. Had too many toilet papers or some shit. One of the managers asked him to calm down but he wouldn't so he kicked him out.

There wasn't any on the shelves when I went through there last night...

Didn't see that shitgibbon though, there was some old prick throwing a hissy fit because the checkout lines were moving too slowly for him. What with people having to pack their own bags now and not having access to bag holder things that make it easier.

Also got plenty of dirty looks because I bought ten boxes of the Felix Kitten food (there was still six left on the shelf). **** them though, I'm involved in running a rescue and that was barely one weeks supply.

 

[RussellEbertHandball]

This is one of those moving infographic websites of daily USA deaths starting from 1st March and daily deaths and where that ranks against average daily deaths. This snap shot is where CoVid-19 deaths ranked 7th April.

Even if 10-20% of COVID-19 deaths are a combo of the virus and something else its still ranks right up there.

Covid vs. US Daily Average Cause of Death

A Flourish data visualisation by Robert Martin

public.flourish.studio

 

[Interstater]

Thanks for the feedback guys, as far as I can tell its not prohibited, even though it is against the "don't travel more than 5 to 10 minutes" discussion.
I'll discuss the factors with my son and make a call.

I'm over cautious with this and my wife isn't, hence the conflict.
If the son's girlfriend put petrol in her car and caught the virus and later passed it on to her father at their home I would feel that I could have avoided that.
My wife just wants them here.

Its like the haircut dilemma.
My wife says "its allowed".
I say "can you guarantee that the last 10 people getting a haircut are not asymptomatic carriers"
Being allowed to do something vs being wise to do something vs overreacting.

cheers

 

[RussellEbertHandball]

From Health Minister Greg Hunt's presser.

'Don't travel, don't go away': Morrison tells Australians to stay put during 'different' Easter break

The Prime Minister and Health Minister emphasise the need for people to avoid family and religious gatherings over the long weekend, as Australia tries to flatten the coronavirus curve.

www.abc.net.au

The minster has given an updated list of numbers of infections.

6,068 Australians have contracted coronavirus, 51 people have died.

There are roughly, 260 people currently in hospital, 82 in ICUs and 35 on ventilators.

"All of those numbers are down from where they have been at their peak."

There have been 323,000 tests conducted.

"The curve continues to flatten. We are consolidating the gains Australians through their activities have helped make a reality. While we have been cautious over the last two weeks as we have seen the early data, what we're seeing now is a genuine consolidation.

"In the 24-hours to this morning's report, there was an increase of 96 cases.

"This is the first time in over three weeks that fewer than 100 people have been added to the list of those with coronavirus. That's an exceptionally important development for Australia."

 

[Capital Power]

Thanks for the feedback guys, as far as I can tell its not prohibited, even though it is against the "don't travel more than 5 to 10 minutes" discussion.
I'll discuss the factors with my son and make a call.

I'm over cautious with this and my wife isn't, hence the conflict.
If the son's girlfriend put petrol in her car and caught the virus and later passed it on to her father at their home I would feel that I could have avoided that.
My wife just wants them here.

cheers

If there is ever a good time for over cautious, this is it. Regardless of the rules, it is adding to everyone's risk. None of us are looking forward to Easter without families, but at least this way it maximises the chances of us all being around to enjoy it next year.

 

[DaTBird187]

Are you trying to say that people maintained physical fitness long before private gyms became a thing?

I won't believe it.

What's a Gym?

 

[JimmyBeerCans]

What's a Gym?

Somewhere people go to waste money

 

[Ford Fairlane]

Please give me immediate feedback on this one.

My son lives at his girlfriends house 12 days in every fortnight. They spend one weekend in two at ours.
We live about an hour away (they are near Gawler in SA, we are in the eastern foothills).

Are they allowed to come over tomorrow?

My wife just had a fit when I told her that my interpretation is that they cannot come over.

https://www.covid-19.sa.gov.au/__da...gement-Gatherings-COVID-19-Direction-2020.pdf

In South Australia:

Can I meet with more than 2 people?

Although it is strongly discouraged, you are able to meet with more than 2 people at a time, as long as you use social distancing of 1.5 metres and it is not more than 10 people.

What if my house has more than 2 people, can we still meet?

Yes – you are able to meet with everyone in your household. However, social distancing and good hygiene is encouraged.

Can I organise a party?

Gatherings of more than 10 people, including at residences, indoors or outdoors are prohibited. While gatherings of more than 2 people are strongly discouraged – you can have a gathering, if the total number of people present in a gathering does not exceed 10 people and does not exceed one person per 4 square metres. You can be fined $1000 on the spot.

 

[Lagooner]

Are you trying to say that people maintained physical fitness long before private gyms became a thing?

I won't believe it.

Change is the real issue here. Change to personal routines and methods. You can get fit as f@&k without a stick of equipment but people are just used to their particular regime or class or whatever. It’s just another area of life where we need to adapt and create new habits.

 

[Magus]

What's a Gym?

A place where gains are made and selfies are taken.